Nothing has changed in GB

[lakerboy]

Great QB and but defense is still garbage. Rodgers is wasting his career

[dlowilly]

It's like a MAC game

3rd and 9 and then a wide open 1st down

[Weazxx]

fatass mccarthy is still calling the plays

[pilebuck13]

Facing arguably the best offense in the league at home, in opener of new stadium...and without 2 starting offensive line men. Come on, over reaction post...all though I probably agree Seahawks not contenders...still get playoff slot...

[Wheatgrass]

could have moved the chains a bunch of times but that horrible signing racist bennett dropped too many balls, then got too many penalties

if they get those plays then they can run the ball a bit and stay in it. he looks like the biggest loser out there i hope he dies on the plane

[Cuse0323]

could have moved the chains a bunch of times but that horrible signing racist bennett dropped too many balls, then got too many penalties

if they get those plays then they can run the ball a bit and stay in it. he looks like the biggest loser out there i hope he dies on the plane

That bad, eh? Damn.

[Watergate]

Great QB and but defense is still garbage. Rodgers is wasting his career

Exactly!

[t-wizzle]

Same issues they've had for the past 5 years. They'll be in the mix in January though.

[packerd_00]

GB recovered well,those bogus pick plays were a killer in the end.Not to worried though,are next two matchups should be fairly winnable.

[thomorino]

If Rodgers didn't win the super bowl people would call him out, he's been very mediocre outside of the division since that year against top teams.

[packerd_00]

Rodgers is a hell of a QB,he won us the game against Dallas last year.

[thomorino]

Rodgers is a hell of a QB,he won us the game against Dallas last year,he's never been mediocre.

Dallas's defense was trash, look what happened against Atlanta, same thing as tonite.

[Slipknot26]

Seems way too much stock put into Week 2 .
Plenty off season to actually find out who's good , who's not
GB , beats Seattle, loses to ATL on the road
Pats , get destroyed at home , annihilated Saints on the road
Dallas gets curbstomped today at Denver .
List can go on
But it's Week 2 , still trying to come together as a team
Couple of more weeks we'll know more of who's the best teams
GB isn't going anywhere as long as AR is taking snaps though

[packerd_00]

Dallas's defense was trash, look what happened against Atlanta, same thing as tonite.

Their offense is loaded man,im not surprised they carved us up,but don't blame Rodgers for that,two crucial penalties that were the difference in this game.

[thomorino]

Rodgers has struggled against good defenses more than most elite quarterbacks. Look at his numbers against Seattle, 49ers during Harbaugh era.

[packerd_00]

Who are you referring to,Brady is probably the only one that does well against the Elite Defenses,and even he has bad playoff games against the top Defenses,Ravens a few years ago,Broncos a couple years back.

[thomorino]

Who are you referring to,Brady is probably the only one that does well against the Elite Defenses,and even he has bad playoff games against the top Defenses,Ravens a few years ago,Broncos a couple years back.

Rodgers was horrible against physical defenses that could keep him the pocket like Seattle and San Francisco. The 49ers owned the Packers during the Harbaugh era, beating them every single time they played them in the playoffs. Rodgers is nothing special in the pocket.

[packerd_00]

Rodgers was horrible against physical defenses that could keep him the pocket like Seattle and San Francisco. The 49ers owned the Packers during the Harbaugh era, beating them every single time they played them in the playoffs. Rodgers is nothing special in the pocket.

Buddy ive said my piece on the matter,you think the man's junk,thats youre opinion.

[lakerboy]

Rodgers couldn't beat the Seahawks when it mattered now that Seattle is not a contender anymore he starts beating them. Atlanta was a pretender before and Rodgers beat them but now he has no chance. Let's face it the packers haven't had a good d in ages. I'm not overreacting they just won't win anything until they get playmakers on defense.

[thomorino]

Buddy ive said my piece on the matter,you think the man's junk,thats youre opinion.

I think Rodgers is at top 5 QB, I just dont' see him as being in the same category as Brady and Manning, like some.

[packerd_00]

I think Rodgers is at top 5 QB, I just dont' see him as being in the same category as Brady and Manning, like some.

Manning was always shit in the playoffs man,come on,dont you remember the year he got trounced by the Seahawks in the SB,I f@cking do,cost me a bundle.

[thomorino]

Manning was always shit in the playoffs man,come on man,dont you remember the year he got trounced by the Seahawks in the SB,I f@cking do,cost me a bundle.

You are making the mistake of comparing Manning in the regular season to Manning in the playoffs, he was good in the playoffs, he was just better in the regular season. His QBR is top 10 all-time in the playoffs, and he played some of the best defenses of his era in very tough conditions.

[thomorino]

The rules were also different in Manning's era, defense were much more physical with receivers.

[packerd_00]

You are making the mistake of comparing Manning in the regular season to Manning in the playoffs, he was good in the playoffs, he was just better in the regular season. His QBR is top 10 all-time in the playoffs, and he played some of the best defenses of his era in very tough conditions.

He was alright in the playoffs,but he was not better then Rodgers when it counted,so don't make the mistake of thinking he was above Rodgers during crunch time,he beat Rex Grossman in the SB,and the other time he was barely serviceable against the Panthers,point being neither has shown up.

[thomorino]

He was alright in the playoffs,but he was not better then Rodgers when it counted,so don't make the mistake of thinking he was above Rodgers during crunch time,he beat Rex Grossman in the SB,and the other time he was barely serviceable against the Panthers.

Lol, he beat Rex Grossman after beating Tom Brady, you are being selective. Manning also owned the Ravens in the playoffs, one of the best defenses of his era. If Rodgers had played the defenses Manning faced in the AFC, the Patriots, Titans, Ravens, he would have gotten owned. Rodgers is a good QB, but he's not in Manning's class, Manning just played when the AFC was loaded with good defenses and you could still play defenses.

[packerd_00]

Lol, he beat Rex Grossman after beating Tom Brady, you are being selective. Manning also owned the Ravens in the playoffs, one of the best defenses of his era. If Rodgers had played the defenses Manning faced in the AFC, the Patriots, Titans, Ravens, he would have gotten owned. Rodgers is a good QB, but he's not in Manning's class, Manning just played when the AFC was loaded with good defenses and you could still play defenses.

Every generation says they faced the toughest Defenses,ive seen Manning get his ass handed to him on a few occasions in the Playoffs,you left out that Manning has the most playoff loses in NFL History including nine one and dones.

For me that's not something to be boasting about,both are great regular season Qbs,no one's disputing that.

[thomorino]

Every generation says they faced the toughest Defenses,ive seen Manning get his ass handed to him on a few occasions in the Playoffs,you left out that Manning has the most playoff loses in NFL History including nine one and dones.

Yeah but Manning's playoff losses always came to top 5 teams, the AFC was loaded during Manning's era. The top 5 teams were the Titans, Jaguars, Patriots, Ravens, and Colts. The NFC was nowhere near as deep and Rodgers has still been less impressive in an easier era for quarterbacks. No way Rodgers would have had the success Manning did against the Ravens and Baltimore's best defenses.

[packerd_00]

Yeah but Manning's playoff losses always came to top 5 teams, the AFC was loaded during Manning's era. The top 5 teams were the Titans, Jaguars, Patriots, Ravens, and Colts. The NFC was nowhere near as deep and Rodgers has still been less impressive in an easier era for quarterbacks. No way Rodgers would have had the success Manning did against the Ravens and Baltimore's best defenses.

Unless we can put these Defenses on a field together,cant really compare them,but regardless Manning didn't have a ton of success against the top D's as shown by his playoff record.

[thomorino]

Unless we can put these Defenses on a field together,cant really compare them,but regardless Manning didn't have a ton of success against the top D's as shown by his playoff record.

Manning also played on teams with every weak defenses and mediocre head coaches. I really could make the case that if you take the year Rodgers won the super bowl away he's been an average quarterback in the playoffs against good but not great defenses. Manning, again, is top 10 all-time in playoff QBR.

I think the biggest factor your are over looking is how much easier it is for quarterbacks, you could hammer quarterbacks and be extremely physical with receivers during Manning's era.

[packerd_00]

Manning also played on teams with every weak defenses and mediocre head coaches. I really could make the case that if you take the year Rodgers won the super bowl away he's been an average quarterback in the playoffs against good but not great defenses. Manning, again, is top 10 all-time in playoff QBR.

I think the biggest factor your are over looking is how much easier it is for quarterbacks, you could hammer quarterbacks and be extremely physical with receivers during Manning's era.

And you think Rodgers has had good Defenses ?,christ man that secondary was atrocious in the Playoffs last year.

[thomorino]

And you think Rodgers has had good Defenses ?

Green Bay's defense was elite when they won the super bowl. Nick Collins before the neck injury, Mathews, Woodson, Green Bay gave up less than 20 points in every playoff game that year before the super bowl.

[packerd_00]

Green Bay's defense was elite when they won the super bowl. Nick Collins before the neck injury, Mathews, Woodson, Green Bay gave up less than 20 points in every playoff game that year before the super bowl.

Their you go,he had some help,you need a solid Defense to win a SB,for the most part,look how quickly the Falcons pissed away that lead last year against the Patriots,what was it like 24 straight points.

[lonegambler23]

mccarthy needs to be let go. this guys play calling is absolutely assanine.

[thomorino]

Their you go,he had some help,you need a solid Defense to win a SB,for the most part,look how quickly the Falcons pissed away that lead last year against the Patriots,what was it like 24 straight points.

Of course you need a respectable defense, but Green Bay's defense with Shields and Tramon Williams was very respectable, the primary reason Green Bay has struggled in the playoffs since the super bowl year is because of Rodgers not the defense. Look what happened in the NFC championship game against Seattle.

[Cuse0323]

Of course you need a respectable defense, but Green Bay's defense with Shields and Tramon Williams was very respectable, the primary reason Green Bay has struggled in the playoffs since the super bowl year is because of Rodgers not the defense. Look what happened in the NFC championship game against Seattle.

Well, that was just a fck up on an onside kick really. Recover it, and game over.

Rodgers hasn't had much help. He does all he can do.