Boxing: Pac vs Horn

eidolon · 07-02-17, 12:06 AM

Does Pacman throw these fights for the rematch money? how does he get outscored on this one and the Bradley one?

Hype the young guys, so they can make money in the future? it's very odd.

oldscho0led · 07-02-17, 12:07 AM

They shoulda did it with split decision to make it less obvious.

thetrinity · 07-02-17, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by yisman

Fitting that Bradley was there making a fool out of himself.

Another robbery.

Very ironic

thetrinity · 07-02-17, 12:08 AM

Hopefully horn can punch teddy Atlas and make this complete

Mase of Base · 07-02-17, 12:10 AM

I'm not sure why everyones so up in arms. Horn looked great all fight except for the 9th and came home strong.

Do see Brooks' point that most of Horns solid shots were blocked but he was on the front foot, coming forward and while not landing as cleanly as Manny did have plenty of moments.

Commentators were just Manny homers who cares what they think, Bradley at least threw some decent input in.

thetrinity · 07-02-17, 12:11 AM

Originally posted by Mase of Base

I'm not sure why everyones so up in arms. Horn looked great all fight except for the 9th and came home strong.

Do see Brooks' point that most of Horns solid shots were blocked but he was on the front foot, coming forward and while not landing as cleanly as Manny did have plenty of moments.

Commentators were just Manny homers who cares what they think, Bradley at least threw some decent input in.

It was close but 117-111 horn what the penetrate was he watching 9 rounds to 3

TheMoneyShot · 07-02-17, 12:12 AM

I don't watch boxing much....

But my question is... the headbutts that Pac suffered. Those things were gushing splits... both sides of the head.

Don't the judges put that into consideration when making a decision? Like... it's sort of not even fair.

Could the Pac corner called off the fight because of this???

yisman · 07-02-17, 12:13 AM

so manny pulverized Horn's face so badly in round 9 the ref wanted to stop the fight

Horn was beaten bloody

manny landed a much higher percentage and also more punches overall

the only real damage horn did to pacquaio was with head butts

and yeah it's 117-111 horn

Andy117 · 07-02-17, 12:15 AM

Originally posted by Darkside Magick

Done with boxing

I haven't invested any serious time or money into boxing in a long time.

gauchojake · 07-02-17, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

I don't watch boxing much....

But my question is... the headbutts that Pac suffered. Those things were gushing splits... both sides of the head.

Don't the judges put that into consideration when making a decision? Like... it's sort of not even fair.

Could the Pac corner called off the fight because of this???

If the ref rules them incidental, there's really nothing you can do about it. The ringside Dr could stop the fight and then depending on the rules of the commission that sanctioned the bout, they could dq or go to the cards. Manny's team could also stop the fight but if incidental, it's a tko for horn.

5918mike · 07-02-17, 12:19 AM

Compu-box says a lot, horrible decision.

vincanity15 · 07-02-17, 12:22 AM

Commentators on British TV all had Horn 115-113

Mase of Base · 07-02-17, 12:22 AM

Boxing I guess.

1 Horn
2 Manny
3 Manny
4 Manny
5 Horn
6 Horn
7 Horn
8 Horn
9 Manny 10-8
10 Manny
11 Horn
12 Horn

5 and 11 could of gone Manny. But that was my thoughts.

KingofKings · 07-02-17, 12:26 AM

117-111 for Horn was atrocious

Originally posted by yisman

so manny pulverized Horn's face so badly in round 9 the ref wanted to stop the fight

Horn was beaten bloody

manny landed a much higher percentage and also more punches overall

the only real damage horn did to pacquaio was with head butts

and yeah it's 117-111 horn

Bigbill365 · 07-02-17, 12:48 AM

The hornet was more agrresive all fight and won the first 3-5 rounds. Pac new this so he put all his energy in round 9 but after he couldn't beat him he ran out of gas so hornet went to the cards. I don't see why everyone is so mad I think if anything it was a tie. Manny was being thrown around and defense all match.

Bigbill365 · 07-02-17, 12:51 AM

Best fight ive ever seen that hornet guy put it all out there I think he deserves more respect then he gets. That's my new favorite fighter for sure guy has more heart then any fighter ive seen.

SEKTAUR · 07-02-17, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by NUTSonYAchin

pacman by decision..am I the only one who sees the light?

the light huh? what a fukkin idiot.

NUTSonYAchin · 07-02-17, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by SEKTAUR

the light huh? what a fukkin idiot.

most here think he should've won...but I still hedged live after 3 rounds and came up....yet you're the dumbass who publicly said he thinks Stipe Miocic is the greatest MMA heavyweight of all time....so enjoy that dikk up ur ass

ChuckyTheGoat · 07-02-17, 01:25 AM

Not that many big-dogs get home in Boxing. Nice score for Daggles.

firekillex · 07-02-17, 01:44 AM

Originally posted by yisman

so manny pulverized Horn's face so badly in round 9 the ref wanted to stop the fight

Horn was beaten bloody

manny landed a much higher percentage and also more punches
you just defined boxing judges
the only real damage horn did to pacquaio was with head butts

and yeah it's 117-111 horn

you just defined boxing judges

Biff41 · 07-02-17, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by Bigbill365

Best fight ive ever seen that hornet guy put it all out there I think he deserves more respect then he gets. That's my new favorite fighter for sure guy has more heart then any fighter ive seen.

Agree, just holding your own against one of the best Welterweights in recent times deserves some scoring points

Jatt24 · 07-02-17, 01:55 AM

Man hope some of them degens out there did't lose too much betting all that juice on pacman

slayer14 · 07-02-17, 02:45 AM

Sad to see Manny lose and retire like this

tony_come · 07-02-17, 03:31 AM

Manny sold his soul

slayer14 · 07-02-17, 03:42 AM

How is it possible for Horn to land 92 punches compared to Manny 190 punches landed and win the fight

jjgold · 07-02-17, 05:20 AM

Boxing in a sad state

It is why Mac might beat Floyd

It is corrupt

teaserpleaser · 07-02-17, 05:44 AM

Boxing is shady

how you score that u dec for horn after horns almost got stopped and hurt a few times

face looks like hamburger helper

I like the kid that was a great fight but c'mon

horn to to win a dec was like +1250 or something like that.

slayer14 · 07-02-17, 05:58 AM

Manny should just retire and so fook you to boxing he dont need the money, why should he put himself through another pointless fight against horn when he beat him already clearly 8 rounds to 4.

thetrinity · 07-02-17, 06:39 AM

This sport will always be a joke until they start announcing what score they have round by round during the fight.

Too many questionable decisions.

With that said, Pac getting homered should surprise no one especially since Horn responded well in the last 3 rounds.

wikkidinsane · 07-02-17, 06:56 AM

did he get robbed guys?

MiDNiTe · 07-02-17, 07:08 AM

Pacman should of won but he should blame himself and his corner, seems like when the judge told horn he had to show something in the next round or the fight was over in the 9th pacman and his corner thought they had it, he's lost the killer instinct for a while now and Freddy needs to say something like this is close you need go for the kill, the 117-111 judge is obviously a idiot but Pac could of done more rounds 10-12

Luckycharms2012 · 07-02-17, 07:19 AM

Roach is not a good trainer. You're on the other side of the world in Australia in the other guys backyard, the country is starved for a boxing attraction and with the rematch clause, if Manny accepts, will bring a 2nd fight back to Australia. I had a gut feeling if the fight was competitive and went the distance they'd give it to the hometown guy, even Bradley said in round 11, he thought the judges would have the fight way closer than the announcers did (announcers had PAC up 3-5 rounds.). At the end of the fight Bradley admitted to Teddy Atlas that PAC should have won but "when your in another mans country and it's close you never know."

I blame roach, he didn't push Manny enough, Horn took the fight to Manny and Manny was more fending the guy off IMO. The guy showed PAC no respect at all, he bullied him, headbutted, elbowed and just leaned all over Manny, it was a dirty ass fight. Roach had no answers to adjust.

Optional · 07-02-17, 07:25 AM

Rematch should be good.

Good to see a boxing title fight with two guys throwing serious punches the whole time.

Hope Horn backs it up with a 2nd win.

Revenge for the Fenech v Nelson farce corrupt Vegas result if it was rigged anyway.

Optional · 07-02-17, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by slayer14

Manny should just retire and so fook you to boxing he dont need the money, why should he put himself through another pointless fight against horn when he beat him already clearly 8 rounds to 4.

Go back and read the first couple of pages of this thread as Horn was winning the early rounds.

Not as clear cut as the Monday morning QBs are whining now. Most here were saying Horn was ahead, until the result was announced.

MiDNiTe · 07-02-17, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by Luckycharms2012

Roach is not a good trainer. You're on the other side of the world in Australia in the other guys backyard, the country is starved for a boxing attraction and with the rematch clause, if Manny accepts, will bring a 2nd fight back to Australia. I had a gut feeling if the fight was competitive and went the distance they'd give it to the hometown guy, even Bradley said in round 11, he thought the judges would have the fight way closer than the announcers did (announcers had PAC up 3-5 rounds.). At the end of the fight Bradley admitted to Teddy Atlas that PAC should have won but "when your in another mans country and it's close you never know."

I blame roach, he didn't push Manny enough, Horn took the fight to Manny and Manny was more fending the guy off IMO. The guy showed PAC no respect at all, he bullied him, headbutted, elbowed and just leaned all over Manny, it was a dirty ass fight. Roach had no answers to adjust.

Yup horns trainer was motivating and telling he needed to do more and push himself last few rounds like mayweather fight roach didn't push pac or say anything like those early rounds are very close and we could be behind, yeah your doing good PAC we got this, nearly knocking him out isn't a k.o, all week PAC been playing with his phone and his camp talking like this was a easy fight, he didn't respect his opponent early on