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  • colt29
    SBR Sharp
    • 03-22-07
    • 381

    #1
    banned fro ** & **
    Moneygram denied my transaction today stating too many to Nicaragua. Same with western union a year ago. How long does this last for? cant deposit now I guess. Has this happened to anyone on here?
  • icsky3
    SBR MVP
    • 04-14-07
    • 1700

    #2
    Interesting. These companies have to know what's going on though. Some books have like 50million Joses in Peru... lol wtf do they do all day
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    • tomcarter
      SBR High Roller
      • 11-10-08
      • 223

      #3
      too many?

      I have probably 250 back and forth transactions a year because I dont like using bank draft and I like to cash out after a week or two. I have never heard of too many transactions,this is a worrisome development .did they say anything else may have caused the suspension of your service ?
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      • Brock Landers
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 06-30-08
        • 45359

        #4
        have to use fake names and let the book know ahead of time you had to do this.
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        • tomcarter
          SBR High Roller
          • 11-10-08
          • 223

          #5
          Originally posted by icsky3
          Interesting. These companies have to know what's going on though. Some books have like 50million Joses in Peru... lol wtf do they do all day
          LOL .Great post. Jose mario sanchez has 10,000 cousins in the US sending money. They have to know whats going on. the transactions probably equal nicaraguas entire gdp for a week,they have to know
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          • pimike
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 03-23-08
            • 37140

            #6
            Originally posted by Brock Landers
            have to use fake names and let the book know ahead of time you had to do this.
            How they check id?
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              No need to do that many transactions, too many guys nickel and dime boos with small amounts.

              Should be like a $300 minimum transaction with Western Union and Money Gram

              Too many guys send $40 because they have a gambling addiction
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              • colt29
                SBR Sharp
                • 03-22-07
                • 381

                #8
                have donearound 30 in the past year of 500 on creditcard, their max a day. all of a sudden she asks how I know all these people. Told her I did charity work . Then she wanted documentation. What a pain in the ass.
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                • RogueJuror
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-08-08
                  • 10010

                  #9
                  Originally posted by tomcarter
                  LOL .Great post. Jose mario sanchez has 10,000 cousins in the US sending money. They have to know whats going on. the transactions probably equal nicaraguas entire gdp for a week,they have to know
                  Nicaragua population 6 million, around 800,000 living in the US. $16bn gdp with around 15% coming from remittance or $2.4 bn. Gambling transactions equals a tiny amount.

                  What raised the flags of the OP was the use of CC.

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                  • RealSlimShady
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 12-24-07
                    • 6249

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brock Landers
                    have to use fake names and let the book know ahead of time you had to do this.

                    What would happen if there is a transaction problem and you don't had ID to back up the name you used?
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                    • colt29
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 03-22-07
                      • 381

                      #11
                      Originally posted by RogueJuror
                      Nicaragua population 6 million, around 800,000 living in the US. $16bn gdp with around 15% coming from remittance or $2.4 bn. Gambling transactions equals a tiny amount.

                      What raised the flags of the OP was the use of CC.
                      Ive done it that way online since 10/07. Much easier than going down there with cash. Makes no sense.
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                      • tomcarter
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 11-10-08
                        • 223

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        No need to do that many transactions, too many guys nickel and dime boos with small amounts.

                        Should be like a $300 minimum transaction with Western Union and Money Gram

                        Too many guys send $40 because they have a gambling addiction
                        I agree JJ but people also need to remember sportsbooks are not banks .they are not regulated and no matter what anyone tells you,anything can happen. I learned that the hard way with BOS and I had a ton of problems with neteller. You never know when the federal government in the US is going to nab some of the sportsbook owner who you wager at but hopefully the climate is changing.

                        I just like to cash out because it helps me stay disciplined,when I start seeing 4,000 -5,000 balances in my books is when I usually get greedy and start wagering and losing my bankroll management.same thing in increasing stakes in poker.Cashing out eevry two weeks is best for me and it keeps me at the level I want to be at.

                        If I were using credit cards, I would just deposit directly with the books, Cris affiliated books can get almost any credit card approved now and it has really changed with most books regarding credit card approval.you may want to look at bank draft as an easy means if you dont mind leaving the IRS a paper trail if you are ever audited.
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                        • tomcarter
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 11-10-08
                          • 223

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RogueJuror
                          Nicaragua population 6 million, around 800,000 living in the US. $16bn gdp with around 15% coming from remittance or $2.4 bn. Gambling transactions equals a tiny amount.

                          What raised the flags of the OP was the use of CC.

                          good post rj, the cc must have been the reason
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                          • Tsoprano
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 04-14-08
                            • 26374

                            #14
                            Originally posted by pimike
                            How they check id?
                            No, you can send using fake names.

                            Especially for Western Union.
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                            • RealSlimShady
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-24-07
                              • 6249

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tsoprano
                              No, you can send using fake names.

                              Especially for Western Union.

                              You are able to. I have done that and changed the spelling of my name minimally so that if there is a transaction problem, I should still be able to deal with it. Have never sent ** with a totally fake name, though.
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                              • remmy358
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-18-07
                                • 2199

                                #16
                                it is impossible to regulate. western union and money gram love the $ from gamblers and will ban one every now and then to act like they are doing something to prevent it. when someone sends 10 different transactions to someone in the phillipines in a few month period, is that really legit? from what i hear, they dont ban you until you send hundreds of transactions for tens of thousands of dollars....it's a joke.
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                                • jjgold
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-20-05
                                  • 388179

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by tomcarter
                                  I agree JJ but people also need to remember sportsbooks are not banks .they are not regulated and no matter what anyone tells you,anything can happen. I learned that the hard way with BOS and I had a ton of problems with neteller. You never know when the federal government in the US is going to nab some of the sportsbook owner who you wager at but hopefully the climate is changing.

                                  I just like to cash out because it helps me stay disciplined,when I start seeing 4,000 -5,000 balances in my books is when I usually get greedy and start wagering and losing my bankroll management.same thing in increasing stakes in poker.Cashing out eevry two weeks is best for me and it keeps me at the level I want to be at.

                                  If I were using credit cards, I would just deposit directly with the books, Cris affiliated books can get almost any credit card approved now and it has really changed with most books regarding credit card approval.you may want to look at bank draft as an easy means if you dont mind leaving the IRS a paper trail if you are ever audited.
                                  Excellent Points guy
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                                  • ijustwant2bpaid
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 11-11-08
                                    • 3706

                                    #18
                                    sucks, better seee if you can do a book 2 book transfer to a site that has checks or a different form of payment, good luck though guy.
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                                    • Tsoprano
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 04-14-08
                                      • 26374

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by RealSlimShady
                                      You are able to. I have done that and changed the spelling of my name minimally so that if there is a transaction problem, I should still be able to deal with it. Have never sent ** with a totally fake name, though.
                                      You can send the money under "Mickey Mouse" and they won't say anything.
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                                      • RogueJuror
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 07-08-08
                                        • 10010

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by colt29
                                        Ive done it that way online since 10/07. Much easier than going down there with cash. Makes no sense.
                                        You simply were flying under the radar.

                                        Yes it does makes sense. People claim charge backs on Western Union transactions and it almost never work for them because WUs are usually filed under 'cash advances' with banks. So while they (banks,**) never incur a direct loss they are both force to by law to coordinate an investigation into the matter which becomes an added cost to them. So its virtually the same as delivering cash on location for ** but with more obligations, that makes them look out more for potential problem clients and reduce that cost.

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                                        • RealSlimShady
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-24-07
                                          • 6249

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Tsoprano
                                          You can send the money under "Mickey Mouse" and they won't say anything.

                                          Point taken. But what if there is somehow a problem with the transaction? It's going to be difficult to get a refund or change it if you don't have ID.
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                                          • MBENZ
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-07-07
                                            • 5238

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            No need to do that many transactions, too many guys nickel and dime boos with small amounts.

                                            Should be like a $300 minimum transaction with Western Union and Money Gram

                                            Too many guys send $40 because they have a gambling addiction
                                            Precisely, if you can't make it at least a month without a withdrawl,find another way or use a local.There is no need for this in and out crap,it raises flags and the books don't like it either.
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                                            • reno cool
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-02-08
                                              • 3567

                                              #23
                                              I'm getting worn out with this shit. Just cashed out ** after having to wait a time period for a free payout. Whenever I go there I'm a little uneasy.
                                              Worry about the book giving you problems, having cash tied up in various books. Then, worry about **. And if you make a substantial amount, worry about paper trails. Vegas may be easier for me.
                                              bird bird da bird's da word
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                                              • RickySteve
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 01-31-06
                                                • 3415

                                                #24
                                                I got banned from ** a few months ago after sending high five figures in the last year. Now I use fake information and keep amounts low.
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                                                • AMBlai01
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-16-08
                                                  • 5882

                                                  #25
                                                  If you are going to use a fake name with ** at least use a real number bc you can then change things over the phone. I used fake everything before and had a pain changing it all. Lcukly I sweet talked the woman working there...
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                                                  • Shortstop
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 01-02-09
                                                    • 27281

                                                    #26
                                                    The first thing I say to the clerk when sending a Western Union is "new receiver" before she scrolls down the hundreds of names when she pulls up my account.
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                                                    • Brock Landers
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 06-30-08
                                                      • 45359

                                                      #27
                                                      i got banned by ** back in 04, had sent like 100K within the year to pinnacle, in and out. used to send money to the phillapeanes back then.

                                                      since if i had to use **, i sent less than 1K and used a fake name, NEVER had a problem.

                                                      in fact, you could send money as "JJ Gold" and be sitting pretty, i will use that name next time, then "Nicky Santoro" after that LOL
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