30 day wait to withdraw blows

**bubba** · 10-22-05, 09:42 PM

i agree, its really annoying

**JoshW** · 10-22-05, 11:56 PM

What book is it? That certainly doesn't sound like any major book's policy. They might do it if you take a bonus, but that doesn't matter the method. Western Union they actually have the cash in hand, so assuming you gave them some action and you will pick up any fees, you should be able to get your money whenever you want.

**picantel** · 10-23-05, 12:01 AM

betwwts

**pags11** · 10-23-05, 02:47 AM

I imagine it has something to do with cash flow...and something to do with them hoping you aren't disciplined...

**kdmfox** · 10-23-05, 07:29 AM

Originally posted by picantel

Why do books make you wait 30 days to withdraw if you deposited by western union using cash? I take it so that you have the most opportune time to blow all your money so they do not have to pay you. Just hit a nice pic3 only to get paid a fraction of it because it was apparently a category 3 track and only pays 100-1. What a rip. I will sit for the next 29 days and do nothing and then stop using the book.

I play mostly at Youbet ... Very reliable and you get track odds ... Bets are comingled as the bets are in the track pools ... Downside to that is a sizeable bet will affect the payoff ... You got screwed last night for sure ... Woodbine is a MAJOR track and shouldn't be a category 3 ... Waiting for your money is just plain and simple BS ... The theme from most of these books is the same, even the reliable ones ... They want to hold on to your $ for as long as possible so by the time you wade through their rules and time limits, it will be HISTORY ... The Fox

**jjgold** · 10-23-05, 07:54 AM

I have used YOUBET too and play there when I bet horses because it is in USA an no silly rules

**bigboydan** · 10-23-05, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by picantel

Why do books make you wait 30 days to withdraw if you deposited by western union using cash? I take it so that you have the most opportune time to blow all your money so they do not have to pay you. Just hit a nice pic3 only to get paid a fraction of it because it was apparently a category 3 track and only pays 100-1. What a rip. I will sit for the next 29 days and do nothing and then stop using the book.

i'm guessing if a book is picking up the ** fees, that could be a part of the reason.

**picantel** · 10-23-05, 09:29 AM

prob so bigboydan. That huge ** $29 fee that paid musta killed em. I use youbet also but sometimes it is nice to make large bets and not have them affect the odds. kdmfox with that damn bet of yours you killed it lol. After you went to bed I did pretty good before my wife starting whining about food and we went out to eat. That 20-1 that want off 7/2 got 3rd cause the idiot went first over in the slop to slow fractions. duh. The next race I put 2 C notes on solomens boogedy who was 10-1 morning line and with 4m left was bet down to 4-1. He went off 8-1 lol, went first over to make me sweat, and still won. I then got some northfield horse that was 15-1 M: bet down to 6-1 and followed up betting hall on some 11-1 dog from the rail at meadows and then he freakin won. Was an excellent night.

**jjgold** · 10-23-05, 09:33 AM

Piker your got to be kidding!!

Large bets are put into the pools at offshore sportsbooks and they get rebates off your bets and make money risk free

**picantel** · 10-23-05, 09:37 AM

really I did not know that. I thought they just booked your bet on the side.

**jjgold** · 10-23-05, 09:54 AM

No way guy, even Pinnacle moves most money out to rebate shops

Good Luck, this week I will be asking questions on your horse betting

I am curious as I like playing them

**JoshW** · 10-23-05, 09:56 AM

Originally posted by picantel

That huge ** $29 fee that paid musta killed em.

If the fee is so low, I am guessing you could pay it yourself and then they would send you money. WWTS is good book, but they have to have some policies to keep costs down (just like all books). Certainly with the millions they pay out every month, is not a cash flow issue.

Also for the future, you might consider Neteller as an option, I know lot of guys still like to deal in cash, but books seem to pick up the fees on Neteller and put in less restrictions.

**picantel** · 10-23-05, 10:00 AM

shoulda jumped on that woodbine race JJ. kdmfox and I were all over that baby. It was like christmas 2 months early.

**Brick Tamland** · 10-23-05, 11:40 AM

You got to know the rules. Holds make the books money like rollovers

**jay88** · 10-23-05, 01:12 PM

Make sure to ask for all the restrictions before you choose a bonus. Different bonus have different restrictions.

**picantel** · 10-23-05, 03:27 PM

they let me refuse the bonus which was a whopping $10 lol lol and are processing my withdrawal.

**tacomax** · 10-23-05, 03:31 PM

Well that was simple, then. If you accept an upfront bonus then it's a bit unfair to have a pop at the book just because you don't like the terms associated with it.

**picantel** · 10-23-05, 03:33 PM

the bonus was automatic on signup. Never even saw a place to turn it down.

**kdmfox** · 10-23-05, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by picantel

the bonus was automatic on signup. Never even saw a place to turn it down.

Most are automatic ... They don't want to give you the opportunity to turn it down, for obvious reasons, the best of which you are exercising ... The Fox

**kdmfox** · 10-23-05, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by tacomax

Well that was simple, then. If you accept an upfront bonus then it's a bit unfair to have a pop at the book just because you don't like the terms associated with it.

taco ... We're playing in an industry that is geared to take advantage of it's customers one way or another ... It would be a very unpleasant world if everyone we dealt with in our daily lives operated like this ... Unfortunately the gambling world is different ... The Fox

**tacomax** · 10-23-05, 04:08 PM

Playing devil's advocate, tell me an industry which doesn't take advantage of it's customers one way or another.

**marc** · 10-23-05, 05:55 PM

If you offered to give betwwts back any bonus you got, and reimburese them for depsoit fees, I would be very suprised if they weren't willing to pay you.

**kdmfox** · 10-23-05, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by marc

If you offered to give betwwts back any bonus you got, and reimburese them for depsoit fees, I would be very suprised if they weren't willing to pay you.

Make deals with them so you can get YOUR money.

**picantel** · 10-23-05, 11:44 PM

Oh look after processing my withdrawal they suddenly send me an email stating I must fill out this ridiculous form and make copies of my DL and ccs and fax it over to them. I went ahead and ran to giant eagle at 12:30 at night and oh look their fax is not working. Who woulda known. I am starting to seriously rethink why anyone would use an unregulated business located out of US jurisdiction.

**pags11** · 10-24-05, 02:55 AM

has anyone else had problems getting paid from WWTS?...

**denn333** · 10-24-05, 08:20 AM

no, been paid promply.

**denn333** · 10-24-05, 08:21 AM

promptly

**Quarm** · 10-24-05, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by pags11

has anyone else had problems getting paid from WWTS?...

No...they are A+ after all

**picantel** · 10-24-05, 09:08 AM

well I called after 9 as they asked and my email has disappeared. Now I have to upload the images and email again. Waiting for their next excuse.

**picantel** · 10-24-05, 09:16 AM

lookie here my 2nd email did not arrive and the fax still will not work. course, could be my end on the fax machine since my cable blows and I use vonage.

**picantel** · 10-24-05, 03:07 PM

just a quick update:
told it would be ready by noon. after doing about 30 minutes on live chat and 4 emails they finally got the info and was told 5 the money would be available. just got 2 emails in which one stated now I have to wait until 6 and the other said it was cancelled. A- book eh? I am on live chat again waiting to find out the next stalling move.

**picantel** · 10-24-05, 03:19 PM

absolutely inexcusable. first I spend 10 minutes because they have no notation of receiving the info suddenly. now they are stating they cannot do it because it is past the cutoff time to make the request even though I made it last night.

**picantel** · 10-24-05, 03:26 PM

ok they just told me they just now processed it through **(this is the 3rd time I have been told this) and I am to call back in 35 minutes.

**picantel** · 10-24-05, 04:27 PM

they paid up. took 3 hours of my life away from me I will never get back but they paid. this book has some serious communication problems though.