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Cavs aren't winning 3 games this series. Lucky to win 1 tbh. If everyone plays absolutely lights out and GS is trash -- that's only way cleveland wins. Durant is scoring 30+ every game this series.... Curry is gonna get 25. Thompson is gonna get 20. Green will get 10-18. Iguadala will get 10ish. Livingston and McGee and Clark combine for 15.
You think the Cavs are gonna suddenly turn into a good defensive team? Who is an all world defender on their team? No one. Lebron is way past his 1 on 1 defensive prime. He can't guard Durant. Irving sucks on D. Love sucks on D. Korver sucks on D. JR smith is decent on D but THompson will make him work and Thompson will get the better of him. Frye sucks on D. Tristian Thompson can ball but he's a true 5 going against a bunch of shooters. GS literally has 5 shooters on the court with their death lineup. Curry, Thopmson, Durant, Iguadala and Green. Now you have Thompson guarding Iguadala or Green. Na.... Tristian Thompson looks literally lost. This is a fast paced street tempo type game and he doesn't belong on the floor.
Cavs were a horrid defensive team all year then they played a bunch of shitty Eastern teams in the playoffs with injuries. No Lowry. No Isaiah. All their opponents sucked. GS is a machine. They can have 20 turnovers and still win....
They have 5 possible hall of famers on their team. Iguadala maybe (great numbers in prime years, finals MVP, defensive all nba teams).
Curry Durant Draymond Thompson all 1st team hall of famers.
Cleveland has 3 hall of famers. Cleveland's key bench players were traded to the team like halfway through the year... Cleveland isn't doing shit this year.
Accept it and stop being stubborn.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
LeBron was spent..cause his supporting cast isn't good enough. Cleveland either gets blown out or wins a close game.Comment -
Books banked on public to go cavs game 1+2, public lost hope now they need cavs. Won't be surprised if officiating is slightly biased.
In my opinion and fan of King James, maybe a game, but 4 out of next 5, I don't see it happening. Honestly, all it takes is 2-3 role players on opposite sides to have good/bad games. The Stars will get their numbers.Comment -
What role players gonna step up for Cleveland?
Korver is getting smothered on every flair.
Shumpert can't score.
JR is smoking weed.
Frye isn't even playing minutes (why? don't get this.)
D Will is the only guy I can see lighting it up for a game. They'll need it too.
If D Will can drop 15 for a game and JR can get 10 and Tristian 10, Cavs can have a chance. That's w the big 3 dominating. James needs 40 too btw or like 30 with 15 dimes, as long as Love and Irving get 25ish each.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
Wow!! THE FINALS!!
Tyronn Lue will make the proper adjustments
for game 3 when turns off the lights and fires up the bus.
The only one who can beat the GS Warriors is themselves.
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I heard how amazing golden state was last year when Cleveland won the championship. Also last year golden state won more games then this year 70. Yet Cleveland has no chance even though they beat them once this year already. Kylie Irving can play as good as curry. LeBron is better than Durant. Love can play has god as play Thompson. Tristan Thompson way better than pachulia. Warriors played injured teams all playoffs too. They would have lost that series to spurs. Also they played Portland without there second best player cu McCollum. The jazz without there second best scorer george hill. Cavs Ben h just need to step up like how they beat the warriors in the regular season.Comment -
who cares nba suksComment -
Goat milk just said iguodala is a possible hall of famer. LOL!Comment -
even the props are not safe
lebron scored 2 points the whole 4th quarter.Comment -
People under estimate the power of Lebron chase moneyComment -
Iguadala wasn't a role player during his prime bro. You should know. He averaged 20 5 and 5 a couple years.
I said he's a possible hall of famer, not a lock.
And he's a finals MVP.
Comlimentary role players certainly don't win finals MVP.....
Iguadala can start on 90% of NBA teams.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
I see you posting a lot of stuff about worthless regular season games. These mean nothing. Beating a team 4 times, where you have to play them every other day or so, and beating them in a regular season game, sandwhiched in between travel and several other reg season games, isn't the same. Last year? Series was a coin flip. Only amateurs rely on reg season numbers (like 73 wins). Means nothing. Last year the warriors didn't have the 2nd best player in the world. Last year Lebron was a roaming defender all series, a free safety. Didn't have to guard the second best player in the world. If you play basketball you understand how this changes things. Not just the x's and o's. It changes you as a player, your endurance, physical and mental.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
Third option? Maybe in today's championship type teams. Not on an average Eastern Conference playoff team. Prime Iguadala was a two way player. In the running for defensive player of the year many years. I don't think he'll get in the hall of fame, but he definitely has the same impact as a Klay Thompson in this series, who is a hall of famer. Iguadala can guard the best player in the world, run with the fastest guys on the court, lead the break, hit timely 3s. The guy can straight ball, and he won finals MVP against this team by battling James 1 on 1 for 6 games. Complimentary role players don't win finals MVPs plain and simple. He's not a role player in reality -- just on this team he is, on this unfair stacked team. He can ball against any of these guys on Cleveland.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
Not denying that he was a good player. But his ppg were inflated because he was put in a situation where he was putting up way more shots than he should have.
In a perfect world, Iguodala plays his entire career on a good team and averages 14-15 ppg with 5 dimes and plays great perimeter defense. Still doesn't get him into the HOF.Comment -
Oh and the Cavs begged him to shoot in the finals in 2015. Literally left him wide open. LeBron averaged like 35-40 ppg but Iguodala still won MVP because he made LeBron work and Curry shit the bed.Comment -
No play yet
If I was betting CleveComment -
Curry averaged 26-5-6 in 2015 Finals. That's not shitting the bed. He did that while being trapped/double-teamed all series. He had 2 subpar games (games 2 and 3), and was exceptional otherwise, especially in a pivotal game 5 (37-7-4 with 7 threes). LeBron also had 2 subpar games (games 4 and 6), but no one mentions that.
Not sure why people think Curry was bad in 2015 Finals honestly. He was bad last year, but not 2015. He should've actually won Finals MVP over Iggy, it's clear Curry was their best player. He does a lot of things that don't show up in the box score, like him attracting a double team 30 feet from the basket and consistently giving his team 4 on 3s because of it. He's not scoring on those plays and a lot of the time won't get credited for an assist. But the impact is there. Setting your team up for 4 on 3s is a ridiculous advantage.Comment -
What kind of response is that? You gave no reasoning.
He didn't struggle dude. He set up his team for success by attracting double teams and setting his team up for 4 on 3s. I don't think people realize how valuable that is. Iggy was given open shots like you said. Yes he knocked them down, but Steph was the catalyst for their offense. Only reason Iggy won it is because his open shots stood out and as well as his D on LeBron. But like I said, Steph's impact was more subtle so it's not noticed at times. Absolutely Steph was their best player that year. Klay was the one that struggled, not Steph.Comment -
Game will be closer
Cleve supporting cast must play betterComment -
He only scored two points in the 4th because he quits when he is getting his ass handed to him.Comment -
Warriors win again.. 3-0... Same old story.. Cavs will try, Lebron will do his best, bench will even play well at home.. In the end KD and Curry hit the big shots and win in a close game..
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Well it certainly wasn't because he "struggled" like you said.
It was mostly because people said LeBron should win Finals MVP even though he lost. So people gave it to Iggy because he D'd him up and made the open shots he was given. Again, I explained already why Steph didn't get it - his impact goes unnoticed sometimes. The fact you think he struggled in 2015 Finals proves that. He gives all of his teammates much more space to work with - you cannot discount that. Here's an article of how good Curry makes his teammates, notice how all of his teammates' FG% take a nose dive when he's on the bench vs. when he playing with them: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...hen-curry-mvp/. Specifically, check the part under "How to be good at offense", it breaks it down quite well. Again, this is something that can be easily be missed by a lot of people because him setting up an easier look for a teammate is much harder to see (especially if his pass is not the direct pass that lead to a basket) than him making a three pointer, but it doesn't make it any less valuable. To say he struggled completely ignores this.
I'm just shocked people don't understand the crazy advantage he provided his team by attracting double teams 30 feet away from the basket and giving his team easier shots because of the 4 on 3s he set up with Draymond as the roller. And despite being trapped and double teamed for much of the series, he was still able to get his.Comment -
Bryant you are just reiterating what I've said for years about just simply the threat of Curry's shooting. This isn't complicated stuff. MVP awards are given based on performance. That's all we're talking about here.
If you want to actually break down the game, well no shit Curry opens up the floor for the rest of his teammates. Go read my thread about Durant winning MVP from before the series. OBVIOUSLY Durant was going to go off with the open shots and open lanes he gets. LeBron at this point of his career can't lock him down one on one. Unfortunately for James, there's virtually no help D due to the Warriors' shooting threats.Comment -
Wizzle you kill me, Durants not even a lock to win MVP, I have curry right on his heels even with KD playing great defense. Only time will tell thoComment
