Why do the batters run to first if it's a Out on foul ground?

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  • JMobile
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-21-10
    • 19074

    #1
    Why do the batters run to first if it's a Out on foul ground?
    I never understood why batters run to first base when they pop-up and it's gonna drop in foul ground. I mean, if the position player ends up catching it, it's an out. If the position player drops it in foul ground, the batter has to go back and finish his at bat. So why run to first base? I don't get it.
  • Snowball
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 11-15-09
    • 30062

    #2
    batters are trained to run after any hit that could be inbound.
    when you hit a ball, the decision to run or not is basically split-second.
    on the way you can look up and see where it went or a base coach's signal
    but not before you decide to run.
    those who run more than they have to are just in-stride, when it's
    easier to keep running and turn around than to stop in your tracks.
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    • Chi_archie
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-22-08
      • 63172

      #3
      drilled in brain as a youngster from coaches as a hustle thing...better to have your youngsters get in a habit of running on any contact right?

      the opposite tendency is you get kids standing and watching close ground balls, liners down the line or worse HR depth type shots that might fall short.

      if you are gonna have a kid err on either running or not running, which would you coach? which has the biggest repercussions?

      but also

      a) you never know when a weird spin or wind will blow a ball back in play.
      b) weird shit happens in baseball. ball pops out of 3rd basemen glove as he collides with ball boy carrying metal chair ( we just saw this right), ball caroms off the catchers mask he is carrying in right hand, and donks off pitchers head like Canseco and ball lands in fair territory

      c) movement from the runner might cause, catcher, 1bmen, pitcher to get distracted on a foul pop along first base line

      d) ball is caught by first basemen, there is a runner on 1st who catches the first basemen napping as he gathers it and starts to run towards 2nd, tagging up. Batter just happens to be standing in way of player who caught the ball and 2nd (or 3rd) my American Legion Coach actually taught that as a play for hitters and runners to practice..... carry the bat with you, and as the ball is caught, get in between advancing bag and fielder and pretend to throw a bit of a demonstrative hissy fit.

      every play is an opportunity

      do you coach for it to be an opportunity for laziness or ingenuity and hustle?
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        Mobile your a fat lazy fukk
        typical attitude from a guy like you

        hustle at everything in life
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        • DiggityDaggityDo
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 11-30-08
          • 81450

          #5
          Originally posted by jjgold
          Mobile your a fat lazy fukk
          typical attitude from a guy like you

          hustle at everything in life
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          • kidcudi92
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-14-11
            • 15434

            #6
            Originally posted by jjgold
            Mobile your a fat lazy fukk
            typical attitude from a guy like you

            hustle at everything in life

            Yep guy is a lazy fuk

            Sad
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            • Blackballer
              SBR MVP
              • 07-12-14
              • 1117

              #7
              Originally posted by jjgold
              Mobile your a fat lazy fukk
              typical attitude from a guy like you

              hustle at everything in life

              Better hustle or you end up like Manny Ramirez
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              • katstale
                SBR MVP
                • 02-07-07
                • 3924

                #8
                You get stiff in the dugout sitting around. Take every opportunity to stretch/limber up. Get back in the box and then beat out a grounder in the hole.
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                • funnyb25
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 07-09-09
                  • 39663

                  #9
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                  • MinnesotaFats
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-18-10
                    • 14758

                    #10
                    Because that one time out of 100 that the fielder misplays the ball and it winds up spinning or bouncing off his mitt into fair play and you're NOT at second base you get destroyed in PR, social media, news, sports, by teammates, coaches, general managers etc....and that costs millions next negotiation.

                    If you aren't willing to run 90 feet with nothing to lose, then you wouldn't be on my team!
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                    • texhooper
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-05-09
                      • 10001

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MinnesotaFats
                      Because that one time out of 100 that the fielder misplays the ball and it winds up spinning or bouncing off his mitt into fair play and you're NOT at second base you get destroyed in PR, social media, news, sports, by teammates, coaches, general managers etc....and that costs millions next negotiation.

                      If you aren't willing to run 90 feet with nothing to lose, then you wouldn't be on my team!
                      You left out the players own soul. How could you sleep at night knowing you're a good for nothing non-hustler
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                      • MaddyMax
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 02-14-17
                        • 790

                        #12
                        I am pretty sure if the fielder makes contact with the balls and drops the ball in the foul territory its fair ball because it bounced off the player. Correct me if i am wrong.
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                        • MinnesotaFats
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-18-10
                          • 14758

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MaddyMax
                          I am pretty sure if the fielder makes contact with the balls and drops the ball in the foul territory its fair ball because it bounced off the player. Correct me if i am wrong.
                          If it hasn't hit the ground, it will be ruled where it lands regardless of the fielder standing in foul ground...remember that Canseco once had a routine ball hit off his head and into the stands for a HR....but had he been in foul territory and the ball bounced into fair territory without hitting the ground, it's be fair!
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                          • Reener77
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 05-26-10
                            • 120

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MaddyMax
                            I am pretty sure if the fielder makes contact with the balls and drops the ball in the foul territory its fair ball because it bounced off the player. Correct me if i am wrong.
                            This is wrong. If a fielder makes contact with the ball in foul territory and it lands fair, it's a foul ball if the ump determines that the ball was in foul territory when it was touched. On the flip side, if a fielder makes contact with the ball in fair territory and lands foul, it's still considered a fair ball.
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                            • johnnydallaz
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-22-16
                              • 1114

                              #15
                              If u do not run hard to first u should be punished...
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                              • maggiethebestdog
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 12-21-13
                                • 6700

                                #16
                                Originally posted by JMobile
                                I never understood why batters run to first base when they pop-up and it's gonna drop in foul ground. I mean, if the position player ends up catching it, it's an out. If the position player drops it in foul ground, the batter has to go back and finish his at bat. So why run to first base? I don't get it.
                                I see you didn't play any sports in your life. That's ok, you just asked a question. If a gust of wind comes up or it hits a bird and lands fair you can't be standing at home plate. Its just in case and it involves minimal effort.
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                                • Otters27
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 07-14-07
                                  • 30760

                                  #17
                                  Guys don't want to risk standing on home plate when the wind blows the ball back in fair territory
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                                  • JMobile
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-21-10
                                    • 19074

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                    I see you didn't play any sports in your life. That's ok, you just asked a question. If a gust of wind comes up or it hits a bird and lands fair you can't be standing at home plate. Its just in case and it involves minimal effort.
                                    Become A Pro first and then talk to me.
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                                    • JIBBBY
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 12-10-09
                                      • 83686

                                      #19
                                      To avoid shiit like this from happening maybe?

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                                      • opie1988
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 09-12-10
                                        • 23429

                                        #20
                                        Arch gave a great explanation. No need to add anything else.

                                        Ask Arch about the time he had me down 0-2 in a fall league game, and he tried to punch me out with his slurve. I took that bitch 380' to deep center for a 3 run fukkin tank. Arch hasn't really spoken to me since. LOL.
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                                        • ronald
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-31-05
                                          • 4919

                                          #21
                                          Wish we still had access to the tutorial video that JJGOLD made a few years ago demonstrating the proper way to run the base pads.
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                                          • mdunlap3
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-18-13
                                            • 1847

                                            #22
                                            If you are getting paid to play, you better be running to first base on a ball in the dirt.
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                                            • JMobile
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-21-10
                                              • 19074

                                              #23
                                              If the pop up is obvious it's going to land in foul ground, regardless if the position player drops it and still lands in foul ground....why do batters still run to first?
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                                              • JIBBBY
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 12-10-09
                                                • 83686

                                                #24
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                                                • TheMoneyShot
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 02-14-07
                                                  • 28672

                                                  #25
                                                  You run hoping that God pushes that ball back into fair territory.

                                                  Clearly it's to teach hustle on everything. But... you do look like an a$$hole running to first when it's FOUL.
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                                                  • BigDofBA
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-30-09
                                                    • 19313

                                                    #26
                                                    Not everyone runs. If it's close run. If not don't run.

                                                    I never see anyone run if it's obvious.

                                                    Also, as a hitter, a lot of the time the ball slices or hooks so off the bat it may look fair and then it starts tailing into foul ground.
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                                                    • Chi_archie
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-22-08
                                                      • 63172

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by opie1988
                                                      Arch gave a great explanation. No need to add anything else.

                                                      Ask Arch about the time he had me down 0-2 in a fall league game, and he tried to punch me out with his slurve. I took that bitch 380' to deep center for a 3 run fukkin tank. Arch hasn't really spoken to me since. LOL.
                                                      back to the gym to work on my junk

                                                      I'll get ya next time

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                                                      • JMobile
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-21-10
                                                        • 19074

                                                        #28
                                                        I remember when Manny Ramirez would pop up in foul territory and start walking to the dug out. He was the real MVP. Guy had common sense.
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                                                        • SBRMAN23
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-07-11
                                                          • 6906

                                                          #29
                                                          Lmfaoo some of the responses
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                                                          • Chi_archie
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-22-08
                                                            • 63172

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by JMobile
                                                            I remember when Manny Ramirez would pop up in foul territory and start walking to the dug out. He was the real MVP. Guy had common sense.

                                                            And he carried his lackadasica attitude it back onto the field after picking up his glove from the dug out
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                                                            • Mike Huntertz
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 08-19-09
                                                              • 11207

                                                              #31
                                                              Running out fouls? I don't see too much of that.

                                                              I sure see a lot of overpaid lazy phucks watching balls in fair territory (assuming they will be an out) jogging to first.
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                                                              • gauchojake
                                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                • 09-17-10
                                                                • 34117

                                                                #32
                                                                I see you didn't play any sports in your life. That's ok, you just asked a question. If a gust of wind comes up or it hits a bird and lands fair you can't be standing at home plate. Its just in case and it involves minimal effort.
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                                                                • biggie12
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-30-05
                                                                  • 13793

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                  Mobile your a fat lazy fukk
                                                                  typical attitude from a guy like you

                                                                  hustle at everything in life
                                                                  This has been your best post in weeks
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                                                                  • kidcudi92
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 12-14-11
                                                                    • 15434

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by biggie12
                                                                    This has been your best post in weeks
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                                                                    • JMobile
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 08-21-10
                                                                      • 19074

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
                                                                      Running out fouls? I don't see too much of that.

                                                                      I sure see a lot of overpaid lazy phucks watching balls in fair territory (assuming they will be an out) jogging to first.
                                                                      Like Puig?
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