My local has -120 juice on all totals o/u

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  • Rusty Bucket$
    SBR High Roller
    • 03-29-17
    • 169

    #1
    My local has -120 juice on all totals o/u
    At 1st glance I wasn't to enthusiastic about this but now I see a way I can really take advantage, especially with NHL Team Totals and maybe even MLB Team Totals. If anybody can offer advice or input on how they would go about taking advantage of this I would really appreciate it. I really like playing NHL Team Total overs and I do somewhat well with them. Again, any ideas or advice would be appreciated
  • Fedup74
    SBR Rookie
    • 04-04-17
    • 40

    #2
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    • Rusty Bucket$
      SBR High Roller
      • 03-29-17
      • 169

      #3
      Fedup I'm actually not trying to switch books, I'm trying to see how cappers would take advantage of the set lines. I can get some plays at a great price for -120. For instance; the other night the Penguins team total was o/u 2.5 at-160 but on my local it was set at -120. That goes for all team totals across the board.
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      • jayc88
        Restricted User
        • 12-30-07
        • 6785

        #4
        if it is -160 everywhere else just pound the -120. Not sure why you are hesitating. As long as your local doesnt cut you off take advantage.
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        • Rusty Bucket$
          SBR High Roller
          • 03-29-17
          • 169

          #5
          No hesitation on my half I'm just wondering what the most profitable strategy/way to go about it is. For instance; if there was a 40 cent difference between regular books and my local would you make it an automatic play? A full slate of NHL games today and I see an advantage in 80% of the team totals. I'm just wondering how others would go about making plays when there is that much disparity in the lines
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388208

            #6
            Originally posted by jayc88
            if it is -160 everywhere else just pound the -120. Not sure why you are hesitating. As long as your local doesnt cut you off take advantage.
            that sums it up

            good post Jay
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            • fishmonger
              SBR MVP
              • 12-31-08
              • 1492

              #7
              I would do a 30 cent difference. Auto play all those you see. He probably won't do it for long.
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              • Rusty Bucket$
                SBR High Roller
                • 03-29-17
                • 169

                #8
                Okay thanks for the replies. I'm going to post my plays and we'll see how I do
                Anaheim O 2.5 -120 2units
                Detroit U 2.5 -120 2units
                Pens U 3.5 -120 1unit
                Ottawa U 3.5 -120 1unit
                Blues U 3.5 -120 1unit
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                • Rusty Bucket$
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 03-29-17
                  • 169

                  #9
                  Blues Minny Caps Bruins Avs Sharks are also 30 cent+ difference but I'm a little hesitant to bet against Caps or Bruins offense right now
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                  • RudyRuetigger
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-24-10
                    • 65107

                    #10
                    nobody really cares what line you got or how you do if they cant get the exact same thing
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                    • newguy
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 12-27-09
                      • 6100

                      #11
                      Would be better if you could get another out. Just play the spread when you have it (-120 at your book, +140 at other book).

                      Certainly there is line value even without another out but having another out would take the risk almost completely out of it.
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                      • Rusty Bucket$
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 03-29-17
                        • 169

                        #12
                        I was asking for advice, the tracking is for myself. Thanks for the input Rudy good luck on your plays
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                        • RudyRuetigger
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 08-24-10
                          • 65107

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Rusty Bucket$
                          I was asking for advice, the tracking is for myself. Thanks for the input Rudy good luck on your plays
                          yea I know, you should keep them in a spreadsheet is my point.

                          sbr has one but there are probably better out there that have graphs and don't make you type so much
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                          • Rusty Bucket$
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 03-29-17
                            • 169

                            #14
                            Thanks for the advice newguy that is a great point
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                            • RudyRuetigger
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 08-24-10
                              • 65107

                              #15
                              it takes the risk out and minimizes your edge.

                              he wont let you do this forever
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                              • Rusty Bucket$
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 03-29-17
                                • 169

                                #16
                                Yeah I can't see it lasting too long but I'm trying to take advantage while I can get it. I'm a relatively small bettor (usually 50-150$) and only have a 1000$ limit but I would like to make a huge play (300-500+) in this window of opportunity when the right game arrises. I know nobody cares but I can't help but get excited about making a big play where I have a really good edge. As we all know it is difficult to gain an edge over the house. Thanks for the input everybody
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                                • mohye1980
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 01-25-14
                                  • 2363

                                  #17
                                  Pound the ducks over 2.5 at -120
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                                  • Rusty Bucket$
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 03-29-17
                                    • 169

                                    #18
                                    Already on it. Got a couple units on the over
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                                    • smartone3328
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 03-09-11
                                      • 79

                                      #19
                                      like tupac said "its just the way it is"
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                                      • dlowilly
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-09-16
                                        • 13870

                                        #20
                                        Don't arbitrage with another book

                                        It doesn't take the risk out, you greatly increase your chances of a calculation or even betting error, plus you lose juice
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                                        • Bostongambler
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 02-01-08
                                          • 35628

                                          #21
                                          Rusty Staub, give me his # and I would own his house, his car, and his women in about two weeks time.
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                                          • Rusty Bucket$
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 03-29-17
                                            • 169

                                            #22
                                            Dlowilly I think the point newguy was making was I can find a line that is +money (more than +120) and I'd be guaranteed a profit, big or small, everytime.
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                                            • Rusty Bucket$
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 03-29-17
                                              • 169

                                              #23
                                              Boston all of his O/U lines are -120 on both sides of every sport besides soccer. I think he thought he was being slick by having extra juice on either side, without realizing he is giving a huge advantage for individual team totals for baseball and hockey.
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                                              • gummo
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-04-06
                                                • 6298

                                                #24
                                                There's no juice when you win.
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                                                • Rusty Bucket$
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 03-29-17
                                                  • 169

                                                  #25
                                                  Of course but when you have plays that are 30-50 cents cheaper then the normal books, that reduces a substantial amount of risk. Especially considering that I make team total bets on a daily basis
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                                                  • krk1030
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 08-13-08
                                                    • 17610

                                                    #26
                                                    did he just change to this? or did you just start playing with him?
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388208

                                                      #27
                                                      Not going to last

                                                      Is the books fraud??

                                                      Looking to take shot and not pay? l
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                                                      • SharpAngles
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 04-15-14
                                                        • 9467

                                                        #28
                                                        So you need a detailed set of instructions on what to do when your book offers -120 and the rest of the planet is 30-40 cents higher??

                                                        sounds like a Mickey Mouse shop, good luck getting paid
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                                                        • Rusty Bucket$
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 03-29-17
                                                          • 169

                                                          #29
                                                          No I just started playing with him a few weeks ago. Everything on the site is legit as far as spreads and ML prices go, but like I said before, all prices on totals are set to one price. I know him pretty well and he's already paid me off before so I'm positive these aren't dummy lines he's setting to try to free roll me
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388208

                                                            #30
                                                            good luck Rusty
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                                                            • Rusty Bucket$
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 03-29-17
                                                              • 169

                                                              #31
                                                              SharpAngles I posted this to see different strategies from posters who are familiar with betting team totals for hockey and baseball. I'm not asking for instructions, I'm simply putting it out there for people who would give input on how they would take advantage of this edge. Like automatic plays for a certain # in line differentials, hedging with another book, ect. Troll somewhere else pal
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                                                              • thetrinity
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-25-11
                                                                • 22444

                                                                #32
                                                                Some locals are idiots. One guy around me was offering -110 on all rls in baseball. Think it took him a couple months to figure out
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                                                                • Rusty Bucket$
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 03-29-17
                                                                  • 169

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I think that's the case here. He doesn't know much about hockey and most of the people who play with him dabble mostly in the 3 major sports.
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                                                                  • dlowilly
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-09-16
                                                                    • 13870

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Rusty Bucket$
                                                                    Dlowilly I think the point newguy was making was I can find a line that is +money (more than +120) and I'd be guaranteed a profit, big or small, everytime.
                                                                    I know, that's called arbing

                                                                    Sure thing sounds good, but along with giving up in juice extra money you could have made just betting the bad line you are opening up many variables that could cost you. For example I once lost over 5k on a soccer match because it started early and I didn't get the draw bet in on time for the 3 way arb. Guess how that match ended
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                                                                    • Rusty Bucket$
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 03-29-17
                                                                      • 169

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Rough
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