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  • Plaza23
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    • 12-29-13
    • 7392

    #1
    Clippers - Suns blatant game fixing
    Anyone watching this? Suns are obviously tanking for draft picks, but they just had TJ Warren (who shoots 80%) on FTs, miss 4 in a row with under 5 minutes to go in the game. All of them were long.

    I've seen some tanking, but this is pathetic. This is willfully trying to lose.
  • funnyb25
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    • 07-09-09
    • 39663

    #2
    Originally posted by Plaza23
    Anyone watching this? Suns are obviously tanking for draft picks, but they just had TJ Warren (who shoots 80%) on FTs, miss 4 in a row with under 5 minutes to go in the game. All of them were long.

    I've seen some tanking, but this is pathetic. This is willfully trying to lose.
    Yup...Comes from upstairs...not the players faults
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    • Seaweed
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      • 01-19-12
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      #3
      Why would they play hard all game then tank at end?
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      • funnyb25
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        • 07-09-09
        • 39663

        #4
        Originally posted by Seaweed
        Why would they play hard all game then tank at end?
        For the fans and local viewing audiences...that's it
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        • Plaza23
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          • 12-29-13
          • 7392

          #5
          Originally posted by funnyb25
          For the fans and local viewing audiences...that's it
          Give a good effort for 3 quarters and then make sure to lose the 4th. There were a ton of questionable plays in the 4th. TJ Warren's 4 straight missed FTs, Devin Booker fouling himself out with 5 minutes left, and it was 2 point game and Chriss had his arm reached in to Chris Paul, which made it every easy for Paul to pull up thru his arms and draw a foul.

          I think the Clippers should be able to beat the Suns straight up without help, but that was really pathetic. The Lakers do the same thing too.
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          • nyplayer33
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            • 09-27-06
            • 8303

            #6
            If word of this came out...so many would go down. Really we think this?
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            • JIBBBY
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 12-10-09
              • 83686

              #7
              They covered the 10 points that's all that mattered ...
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              • teecee
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                • 09-18-09
                • 6298

                #8
                Yeah, I mean, they covered. It's all good.
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                • 5mike5
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-21-11
                  • 52036

                  #9
                  Originally posted by nyplayer33
                  If word of this came out...so many would go down. Really we think this?
                  i would hope not, but gamblers LOVE calling a fix when they lose money on NBA games. Yet keep gambling on them. Lol
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388179

                    #10
                    NBA is a terrible product now

                    They need a whole knew revamping of the brand

                    Players too rich and do not care

                    Players too soft and all friends

                    No hard fouls anymore

                    No defense
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                    • slayer14
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 08-12-13
                      • 22022

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      NBA is a terrible product now

                      They need a whole knew revamping of the brand

                      Players too rich and do not care

                      Players too soft and all friends

                      No hard fouls anymore

                      No defense

                      Its to late now the NBA owner has regrets
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                      • shadymcgrady
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-27-12
                        • 10036

                        #12
                        Nba fixed for sure but I doubt it's the players doing it
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                        • JaimeMiro
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-14-17
                          • 2515

                          #13
                          same with cleveland right now... were up 6 + points at the break then tank in the 2nd half. something tells me they trying to avoid miami in the 1st round. or they could be just terrible.
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                          • Regul8er
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-06-07
                            • 10666

                            #14
                            Everytime I read these threads, I just laugh and shake my head.

                            Just because the team you bet on chokes down the stretch, doesnt mean a fix was in....seems one of these threads pops up every night.
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                            • 5mike5
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-21-11
                              • 52036

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Regul8er
                              Everytime I read these threads, I just laugh and shake my head.

                              Just because the team you bet on chokes down the stretch, doesnt mean a fix was in....seems one of these threads pops up every night.
                              makes them feel better I guess
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                              • shadymcgrady
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 02-27-12
                                • 10036

                                #16
                                Originally posted by 5mike5
                                makes them feel better I guess
                                Nah, feels good to be on a winning side of a ref fix. Anyone who's gambled long enough will know that ur gonna be on both sides at times. Just have to move onto the next play regardless of outcome.

                                Gambling longevity should develop a tolerance or numbness to what is perceived to be a fix. Only thing to rly do is shake ur head and chuckle
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                                • JIBBBY
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 12-10-09
                                  • 83686

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  NBA is a terrible product now

                                  They need a whole knew revamping of the brand

                                  Players too rich and do not care

                                  Players too soft and all friends

                                  No hard fouls anymore

                                  No defense
                                  Bunch of soft divas... Still the NBA is fun when you have players like James Harden, Westbrook, Curry and others going off in the playoffs. Still entertaining at some level.. NBA isn't in the gutter just yet..
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                                  • Notorious_Donk
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                                    • 03-29-11
                                    • 2689

                                    #18
                                    I agree with Shady. There is some fixing going on in NBA games, but definitely not the players. If players were blatantly fixing games we would have had a whistleblower by now. Refs on the other hand, they are fixing the games based on word from top NBA execs. It's been done before so why not keep doing it??
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                                    • NrmlCurvSurfr
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 04-05-10
                                      • 2896

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Regul8er
                                      Everytime I read these threads, I just laugh and shake my head.

                                      Just because the team you bet on chokes down the stretch, doesnt mean a fix was in....seems one of these threads pops up every night.
                                      im sure you believe online casinos are 100% legit as well...if you don't believe teams have ever tanked on purpose for draft picks or other reasons, then I don't think you fully understand the situation...

                                      also if I'm an NBA exec, I would love for teams to play as close to the spread as possible, knowing that a large percentage of viewers are gambling on the game, keeps them watching and hooked...seems like a no brainer to me whether there is a fix or not....
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                                      • jtoler
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                                        • 12-17-13
                                        • 30967

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Notorious_Donk
                                        I agree with Shady. There is some fixing going on in NBA games, but definitely not the players. If players were blatantly fixing games we would have had a whistleblower by now. Refs on the other hand, they are fixing the games based on word from top NBA execs. It's been done before so why not keep doing it??
                                        Yes, refs. If it were players you definitely would have heard something long ago from ex disgruntled players who have gone broke and/or feel like theyre good enough to still play but have been cut by teams.
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                                        • juicername
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 10-14-15
                                          • 6906

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by NrmlCurvSurfr
                                          im sure you believe online casinos are 100% legit as well...if you don't believe teams have ever tanked on purpose for draft picks or other reasons, then I don't think you fully understand the situation...

                                          also if I'm an NBA exec, I would love for teams to play as close to the spread as possible, knowing that a large percentage of viewers are gambling on the game, keeps them watching and hooked...seems like a no brainer to me whether there is a fix or not....
                                          Why wouldn't you believe online casinos are 100% legit? They have a built in edge in every single game they offer (and players gladly accept that -EV proposition), why would they need to implement any foul play?

                                          As for NBA being fixed, some games will look that way because of teams tanking late in the season for various reasons.
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                                          • Plaza23
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                                            • 12-29-13
                                            • 7392

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Regul8er
                                            Everytime I read these threads, I just laugh and shake my head.

                                            Just because the team you bet on chokes down the stretch, doesnt mean a fix was in....seems one of these threads pops up every night.
                                            Except I bet the Clippers ML live because I saw the fix.

                                            80% foul shooter misses 4 FTs in a row. At that point Tony should have shut off live betting because he was giving away free money.

                                            Unless you watched the game, then don't comment.

                                            Do you think anyone bet the Suns ML live when they saw what they were doing?
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                                            • Plaza23
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                                              • 12-29-13
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Notorious_Donk
                                              I agree with Shady. There is some fixing going on in NBA games, but definitely not the players. If players were blatantly fixing games we would have had a whistleblower by now. Refs on the other hand, they are fixing the games based on word from top NBA execs. It's been done before so why not keep doing it??
                                              I guarantee Earl Watson made sure his guys last night did enough to lose that game. If you watched the last 5 minutes of the game, it was more than obvious. Do I think he told his guys that if the game was close to make sure to miss at the line - absolutely. And nobody will whistleblow because they'd get blackballed by the league.

                                              There's a way to tank where you just don't play your best players. Suns have been doing that for awhile. But last night had simply obvious plays that are consistent with fixing. Tank plays. "Hey Devin, you got 5 fouls. Make sure you foul out. Hey TJ, if you get fouled and the game is within 5 points, make sure you miss at the line".

                                              All these guys are on guaranteed deals. There's no incentive for them to go against what the organization wants, especially a fringe player like TJ Warren. If you just watched him shoot those FTs, 4 in a row - none of them were even close.
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                                              • INVEGA MAN
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                                                • 01-30-08
                                                • 6801

                                                #24
                                                All games aree fixed but we are hoping we are on the right side of the fix.
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                                                • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                  • 04-04-11
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Regul8er
                                                  Everytime I read these threads, I just laugh and shake my head.

                                                  Just because the team you bet on chokes down the stretch, doesnt mean a fix was in....seems one of these threads pops up every night.
                                                  Reg, post some more. U have posted some all-time classics.
                                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                  • mohye1980
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                                                    • 01-25-14
                                                    • 2363

                                                    #26
                                                    So what was the fix ? They covered the spread. I'm confused
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                                                    • Notorious_Donk
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                                                      • 03-29-11
                                                      • 2689

                                                      #27
                                                      We are actually talking about two different fixes here.

                                                      The fix that started this thread is that the Suns lost on purpose to get a better draft pick. Which, if you watched the game, that was obvious. The other fix is actually fixing the game so a certain team covers or don't play defense so the game goes over. Let's stick to the first fix for the sake of this thread.
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                                                      • shadymcgrady
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                                                        • 02-27-12
                                                        • 10036

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Notorious_Donk
                                                        We are actually talking about two different fixes here.

                                                        The fix that started this thread is that the Suns lost on purpose to get a better draft pick. Which, if you watched the game, that was obvious. The other fix is actually fixing the game so a certain team covers or don't play defense so the game goes over. Let's stick to the first fix for the sake of this thread.
                                                        Quit trying to bring reason and order into a world of chaos donk. The nerve of u
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                                                        • Notorious_Donk
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                                                          • 03-29-11
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by shadymcgrady
                                                          Quit trying to bring reason and order into a world of chaos donk. The nerve of u
                                                          Am I out of line? Silly me
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                                                          • sk0002
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 09-03-15
                                                            • 610

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by JaimeMiro
                                                            same with cleveland right now... were up 6 + points at the break then tank in the 2nd half. something tells me they trying to avoid miami in the 1st round. or they could be just terrible.
                                                            how do you avoid miami when you dont know which seed miami going to end up to be?? They just suck, Miami could end up 7th or 8th seed or not even making playoffs, or even make it all the way up to 5th seed, they are only down 2 games afterall from 5th seed. There's no avoiding when you dont know yet, dont make it up.
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                                                            • dlowilly
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                                                              • 11-09-16
                                                              • 13862

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by juicername
                                                              Why wouldn't you believe online casinos are 100% legit? They have a built in edge in every single game they offer (and players gladly accept that -EV proposition), why would they need to implement any foul play?

                                                              This wasn't betonline like the narrator says but a live casino which is used by middle man companies. I'm pretty sure betonline gave them the boot once they found out. That dealer may be sleeping with the fishes outside of San Jose right now after all the money he lost offshore books with that little trick
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                                                              • Smoove
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 11-15-12
                                                                • 139

                                                                #32
                                                                Zzz another delusional loser
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