Explain the super bowl prop odds on this

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  • ans61201
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    • 10-11-15
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    #1
    Explain the super bowl prop odds on this
    What will the player call?

    heads -1100
    tails +550
    via bookmaker.


    although I feel like a lot of people pick heads I don't think its more than say 60% of the time. So either they have some stat on pats players calling heads, or someone randomly hammered heads. The bet was at -800 +400 last night and now I'm even more suspicious. I feel like I gotta lose $100 on this out of pure principle.
  • ans61201
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    • 10-11-15
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    #2
    Nevermind nytimes did an article that pats have called heads two years running. Books are getting hammered on this bet
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    • JayLA
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      • 09-11-12
      • 7806

      #3
      Originally posted by ans61201
      Nevermind nytimes did an article that pats have called heads two years running. Books are getting hammered on this bet
      yea but that doesnt mean they wont call tails this time especially with belichek's contrarian ass
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      • funnyb25
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        • 07-09-09
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        #4
        It's fixed... lay the -1100 to win less than $100
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        • krk1030
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          • 08-13-08
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          #5
          2 years running they call heads every time? or 2 superbowls?
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          • LT Profits
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            • 10-27-06
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            #6
            Originally posted by krk1030
            2 years running they call heads every time? or 2 superbowls?
            Every road game the last 2 years, so 17 games counting playoffs at Denver last year.
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            • rizespor
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              • 06-21-16
              • 1900

              #7
              Belichick is always looking for an edge no matter how small. It's possible the coin is slightly more likely to land on heads because of minute differences in the heads and tails side.
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              • d2bets
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                • 08-10-05
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                #8
                Originally posted by rizespor
                Belichick is always looking for an edge no matter how small. It's possible the coin is slightly more likely to land on heads because of minute differences in the heads and tails side.
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                • rizespor
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by d2bets
                  I mean the idea is pretty simple but here's an article that maybe explains it better for the learning impaired? Dunno


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                  • d2bets
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by rizespor
                    I mean the idea is pretty simple but here's an article that maybe explains it better for the learning impaired? Dunno


                    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/scienc...050-145465423/
                    The coin isn't spun and the players don't even flip the coin. How would he know how HW Bush is gonna flip it? There is no strategy here.
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                    • rizespor
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                      • 06-21-16
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by d2bets
                      The coin isn't spun and the players don't even flip the coin. How would he know how HW Bush is gonna flip it? There is no strategy here.
                      Does not matter if it's spun or flipped. If one side is heavier, then the coin is biased and the weighted side is less likely by a very small margin.

                      Unless the coin is completely uniform, it is not exactly 50/50 end of story
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                      • JIBBBY
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                        • 12-10-09
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                        #12
                        If the coin is evenly balanced on both sides which it should be and is flipped in the air and rotating then it's a 50/50 chance of landing heads or tails..

                        There is no advantage and it's completely random which side the coin lands on especially if you have a neutral party flipping it with no invested interest..

                        The coin spins in the air and either lands heads or tails.. Trends don't apply to this bet IMO...

                        Odds are even on most sportsbooks that I'm seeing..
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                        • rizespor
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                          If the coin is balanced on both sides which it should be and is flipped in the air and rotating then it's a 50/50 chance of landing heads or tails..

                          There is no advantage and it's completely random which side the coin lands on especially if you have a neutral party flipping it with no invested interest..

                          The coin spins in the air and either lands heads or tails.. Trends don't apply to this bet IMO...


                          These aren't trends. It's basic physics.

                          Coin is not balanced on both sides because of the minute differences. That's the point.

                          And the side up before it's flipped is actually slightly more likely as well.

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                          • LT Profits
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                            • 10-27-06
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                            #14
                            Whatever the reason, the fact is that Pats have always called heads for two years and that is the reason for the line.
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                            • rizespor
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                              Whatever the reason, the fact is that Pats have always called heads for two years and that is the reason for the line.
                              Well sure. I was just speculating on why it was the case. Belichick is of course an ocd control freak that probably looks for every edge no matter how small
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                              • JIBBBY
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                                • 12-10-09
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by rizespor


                                These aren't trends. It's basic physics.

                                Coin is not balanced on both sides because of the minute differences. That's the point.

                                And the side up before it's flipped is actually slightly more likely as well.

                                http://www.tested.com/science/math/4...nny-land-tails
                                Well then if the coin is not equally balanced then perhaps an argument can be made... Still it's pretty random.. Flip a coin high in the air yourself 10 times and see what happens and then repeat that process.. The end result will likely differ every time.. It's random...
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                                • d2bets
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                                  #17
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                                  • JIBBBY
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                                    • 12-10-09
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                                    #18
                                    TAILS!!! Told you guys!!! Random....

                                    Was a weak toss from Bush Sr and the coin even bounced off a shoe....
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                                    • DiggityDaggityDo
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                                      • 11-30-08
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                      TAILS!!! Told you guys!!! Random....

                                      Was a weak toss from Bush Sr and the coin even bounced off a shoe....
                                      Most of us included the coin rolling into a shoe in our capping numbers.

                                      Only a square wouldn't.
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                                      • JayLA
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                                        • 09-11-12
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                                        #20
                                        Can ya imagine getting Call HEADS at -110...or even -200 if you were sure.
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