Without Brady, Belichick is 51-65

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  • Goat Milk
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    • 03-24-10
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    #1
    Without Brady, Belichick is 51-65
    Swerve lakerman

    Players win games

    Great players make others around them great including coaches

    Sure, coaches play a role. Key word role.
    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
  • Chi_archie
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    • 07-22-08
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    #2
    Synergy
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    • lakerboy
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      • 04-02-09
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      #3
      What Billy record in ne without Tommy?

      Keep swerving brother love
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      • Jeffie
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        #4
        Matt Cassel.
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        • Booya711
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          #5
          Clown thread
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          • Chi_archie
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            • 07-22-08
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            #6
            Who was last coach to take Browns to the playoffs and win a game?

            the flipping Browns!!!!!!
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            • mintpicks79
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              • 10-04-08
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              #7
              He went 11-5 with Matt cAssel end of conversation.
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              • lakerboy
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                • 04-02-09
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                #8
                Originally posted by mintpicks79
                He went 11-5 with Matt cAssel end of conversation.
                His win percentage in Ne is actually higher without Tommy
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                • MoneyLineDawg
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                  • 01-01-09
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by mintpicks79
                  He went 11-5 with Matt cAssel end of conversation.
                  Didn't Cassel take KC to the playoffs?
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                  • TheMoneyShot
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                    #10
                    Someone going to take Brady's knee out?
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                    • Goat Milk
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by mintpicks79
                      He went 11-5 with Matt cAssel end of conversation.
                      He missed the playoffs. 11 wins is irrelevant. Very next year Cassell made the playoffs with KC.

                      Belichick is a coach. That's all. His days of winning multiple rings are finished when Brady retires.
                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                      • DOM-Ganador
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                        • 05-30-12
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                        #12
                        Goat man, Belichick and his system is the #1 reason for the Patriot success.

                        Turnover of Coordinators has been prolific, style and schemes always adjust to personnel available not the other way around. Brady is awesome, but unlike MJ/LBJ 1 guy doesn`t get you to the title.

                        The old saying "He is playing CHESS, rest of league playing CHECKERS"

                        The league is set up, with all its rules and restrictions for PARITY. Besides cheating when no other team/coach has been caught trying shady shit, how does anyone explain their 16 year run??
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                        • BigdaddyQH
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                          • 07-13-09
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                          #13
                          I fail to see the point of this thread. Who gives a crap? This has nothing to do with the Big Game.
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                          • tunaguitar76
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                            • 10-30-08
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by DOM-Ganador
                            Besides cheating when no other team/coach has been caught trying shady shit
                            That's silly
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                            • packerd_00
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                              • 05-22-13
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                              Didn't Cassel take KC to the playoffs?
                              He was average though to be fair,the Hoodie is a magician,he can make average Qbs look like studs.
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                              • swordsandtequila
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                                • 02-23-12
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                                #16
                                "The whole is greater than the sum of its parts." The level of success wouldn't be the same without each other.
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                                • chico2663
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                                  • 09-02-10
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                                  #17
                                  goat could you give us an update on what phil's record without shaq,kobe,michael? I always wanted to know
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                                  • CTOWNsCAPPIN
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                                    • 02-11-11
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                                    #18
                                    This thread needs to be banished. Ignorant to even attempt to try and dispel Belicheck or the run he's had with NE. He will go down as one of the greatest coaches of all time in the NFL.
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                                    • DOM-Ganador
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                                      • 05-30-12
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by tunaguitar76

                                      This forum NEVER gets a bit of sarcasm.....never.
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                                      • Itsamazing777
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                                        • 11-14-12
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                                        #20
                                        So what's the record of other coaches, with no great qb.....
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                                        • KVB
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                                          • 05-29-14
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by tunaguitar76
                                          Every page and every individual scandal has a direct link posted for you to toss into the stinking cesspool of ignorance of the typical online comment thread.


                                          Good work Tuna, nice avi.
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                                          • Goat Milk
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                                            • 03-24-10
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by CTOWNsCAPPIN
                                            This thread needs to be banished. Ignorant to even attempt to try and dispel Belicheck or the run he's had with NE. He will go down as one of the greatest coaches of all time in the NFL.
                                            Never said Bill isn't the greatest coach ever.

                                            Players win games. Coaches play a role.

                                            Point is Brady would have success anywhere. Not the same amount. But still multiple rings.

                                            The true test of Billichick will be when Brady retires. Will he win superbowls? Will he be in the finals every other year?
                                            Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                            • lakerboy
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                                              • 04-02-09
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                              Never said Bill isn't the greatest coach ever.

                                              Players win games. Coaches play a role.

                                              Point is Brady would have success anywhere. Not the same amount. But still multiple rings.

                                              The true test of Billichick will be when Brady retires. Will he win superbowls? Will he be in the finals every other year?
                                              Bill will leave as well
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                                              • SteelRain
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                                                • 03-13-12
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                                                #24
                                                Say what you want about Bill but he is a true leader. If he was a general many would easily die for him.
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                                                • INVEGA MAN
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                                                  #25
                                                  we really don't know this do we
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                                                  • packerd_00
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                                                    • 05-22-13
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                    Never said Bill isn't the greatest coach ever.

                                                    Players win games. Coaches play a role.

                                                    Point is Brady would have success anywhere. Not the same amount. But still multiple rings.

                                                    The true test of Billichick will be when Brady retires. Will he win superbowls? Will he be in the finals every other year?
                                                    Bologne man,put him with the Cardinals,Jags,Browns off the top of my head,you honestly think hed have won multiple titles.
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                                                    • ManOfValue
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                                                      • 02-29-08
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                                                      #27
                                                      What do these stats mean? Bilichick has been head coach in New England for 16 years right? Brady the starter for 15 of those years correct? So thats about 240 games together give or take. If he's 51-65 without Brady that means he played about 124 games with Brady. Whats his record with Brady?
                                                      He would probably maintain just as good a record without Brady. Brady is in a good spot..
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                                                      • hawkwind
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Booya711
                                                        Clown thread
                                                        U R Correct Sir, Posterwools have been flushed if hi M-M used the Toliet
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                                                        • lakerboy
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                                                          • 04-02-09
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                                                          #29
                                                          Brady would have been out of the NFL in 5 years or less without Billy.
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                                                          • tunaguitar76
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                                                            • 10-30-08
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                            Brady would have been out of the NFL in 5 years or less without Billy.
                                                            Right, most likely not drafted at all.

                                                            Bill gave him a chance and believed in him. Brady has never given him a chance to regret it.

                                                            How many more wins would Michigan of had if they did the same?

                                                            They are both great and owe a lot of it to the other. Bill could have been fired after 2-3 years without Brady, like in Cle. Brady probably doesn't get a chance to start without Bill. Even if he does he probably wouldn't have gotten the time to adjust to the nfl like all college QB's need. He may have been a back up until a team used a high pick on a QB and let them learn instead.

                                                            I think it worked out perfect. They have been driving you insane for years.
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                                                            • Goat Milk
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                              Bill will leave as well
                                                              Bill stays. Brady leaves.

                                                              Let's go!
                                                              Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                              • DrunkHorseplayer
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                                                                • 05-15-10
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                What Billy record in ne without Tommy?

                                                                Keep swerving brother love
                                                                I believe it's 13-6.
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                                                                • Goat Milk
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
                                                                  I believe it's 13-6.
                                                                  Fukk no. Drew Bledsoe year 1 w Pats? Definitely did not do shit.
                                                                  Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                                  • Goat Milk
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Lakerman? Check in.

                                                                    What you thinking. Pats same exact team just lost Brady. Basically were a lock for the 1 seed until the final game of season. Now what? Are Pats even gonna make playoffs? All they did was lose 1 player... never forget this.
                                                                    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                                    • asiagambler
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                                                                      • 07-23-17
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Goat Milk
                                                                      Lakerman? Check in.

                                                                      What you thinking. Pats same exact team just lost Brady. Basically were a lock for the 1 seed until the final game of season. Now what? Are Pats even gonna make playoffs? All they did was lose 1 player... never forget this.
                                                                      They're not the same exact team. They've lost a lot of players in free agency
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