Why doesn't every bookie treat winners like Pinnacle?

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  • Gaze73
    SBR MVP
    • 01-27-14
    • 3291

    #1
    Why doesn't every bookie treat winners like Pinnacle?
    That is, simply reduce odds when sharp money hits your lines. Instead, most of the fukking clowns either ban you outright or reduce your stakes to ridiculous sizes. I just got the message from my fav bookie bet 365
    It's funny how they allow you to make like $25k bets initially but when there's even a hint you know what you're doing suddenly they can't afford to lose 50 bucks because their multi billion empire would crumble.
  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #2
    $25k bets at Bet365
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    • Gaze73
      SBR MVP
      • 01-27-14
      • 3291

      #3
      You can do that on -1000 favs I think.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        terrible strategy

        most books win even if you hit weak numbers long run

        they are too stupid to realize it
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 61691

          #5
          One reason that stops them is if a smaller book moves out of line with Pinny then arbers hit them on the overpriced dog side.
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          • Gaze73
            SBR MVP
            • 01-27-14
            • 3291

            #6
            Originally posted by Optional
            One reason that stops them is if a smaller book moves out of line with Pinny then arbers hit them on the overpriced dog side.
            Then they ban the arbers. There isn't many of them anyway, and they're extremely easy to spot.
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              Originally posted by Gaze73
              Then they ban the arbers. There isn't many of them anyway, and they're extremely easy to spot.
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 61691

                #8
                Originally posted by Gaze73
                Then they ban the arbers. There isn't many of them anyway, and they're extremely easy to spot.
                I think there may be more arbers than you think but agree they are easy to spot if the book uses software to scan for arbs against them and match that to betting activity.

                People from countries were $10/day is a good income are big on arbing smaller amounts and they are tough to spot without a software scanning solution.
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  all books need to do is keep lines close with pinnacle with auto moving software off pinnacle changes and impossible to arb

                  so easy
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                  • Bostongambler
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 02-01-08
                    • 35581

                    #10
                    It's the books that don't move the lines ( tons of them in the mid to late 90's) that are actually taken a side. So it's akin to them betting the game themselves.
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                    • BigOrange
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-13-09
                      • 6745

                      #11
                      They aren't called Bet$3.65 for nothing!
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        a lot of books also do not have volume to handle bigger bets

                        Best way to book is the UK way for profit
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                        • biggie12
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-30-05
                          • 13792

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Gaze73
                          Then they ban the arbers. There isn't many of them anyway, and they're extremely easy to spot.
                          I am an arber with bet365 have not been limited over years.

                          Have bet 50k in live game betting. They dont cater to big players but based on history will take lots of action. On live lines the max bet in the betting box is what they will accept without your bet being sent to a trader. Once u reach the max ur bet is delayed about 30-40 secs more while trader either accepts or changes odds for you to accept or not

                          About ur account beijg limited u must be a new customer and won a few bets in a row or u are only betting into the lower vig lines in smaller markets.
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                          • jjgold
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                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #14
                            Biggie your not an arber at bet365

                            There are none
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                            • Gaze73
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-27-14
                              • 3291

                              #15
                              Originally posted by biggie12
                              I am an arber with bet365 have not been limited over years.

                              Have bet 50k in live game betting. They dont cater to big players but based on history will take lots of action. On live lines the max bet in the betting box is what they will accept without your bet being sent to a trader. Once u reach the max ur bet is delayed about 30-40 secs more while trader either accepts or changes odds for you to accept or not

                              About ur account beijg limited u must be a new customer and won a few bets in a row or u are only betting into the lower vig lines in smaller markets.
                              I've been betting with them for many years. I had a terrible run this month. Yet I was limited, because I was beating their SPs(starting prices) on horse racing - and they limited me on all sports. If you're consistently withdrawing hundreds or thousands of bucks from them, due to arbing no less, they would have to be completely retarded not to limit you.
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                              • jjgold
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                                • 07-20-05
                                • 388179

                                #16
                                No book likes you betting off numbers big even Vegas
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                                • BuckyOne
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-02-15
                                  • 2728

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Gaze73
                                  I've been betting with them for many years. I had a terrible run this month. Yet I was limited, because I was beating their SPs(starting prices) on horse racing - and they limited me on all sports. If you're consistently withdrawing hundreds or thousands of bucks from them, due to arbing no less, they would have to be completely retarded not to limit you.
                                  Did the issue start after a big withdrawal or two made them wake up and take a look at your account?
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                                  • biggie12
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-30-05
                                    • 13792

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                    Biggie your not an arber at bet365

                                    There are none
                                    You have no idea what your talking about again JJ close her down.

                                    Horse racing is a whole different story
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                                    • Sam Losco
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 12-03-16
                                      • 3858

                                      #19
                                      how low did they reduce you?
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                                      • rizespor
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-21-16
                                        • 1900

                                        #20
                                        Much easier to run a square book. Why bother with balancing action and holding decisions when you can just boot the small percentage of bettors deemed 'sharp' and let the squares pound away
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          Plenty of books that take $1000 per game even winners
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                                          • BuckyOne
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                                            • 01-02-15
                                            • 2728

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by rizespor
                                            Much easier to run a square book. Why bother with balancing action and holding decisions when you can just boot the small percentage of bettors deemed 'sharp' and let the squares pound away
                                            Square books are basically screwing squares with bad numbers. Sharps would get value but they have all been kicked out or know better than play there.
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                                            • rizespor
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-21-16
                                              • 1900

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by BuckyOne
                                              Square books are basically screwing squares with bad numbers. Sharps would get value but they have all been kicked out or know better than play there.
                                              Basically.

                                              As the saying goes, squares bet teams, sharps bet numbers
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