When is the last time you saw either of these defenses step up?
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Seaweed
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#3
Originally posted by unde0087
When is the last time you saw either of these defenses step up?
The line never insulted them this much
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PorkChop
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#4
1H Under 31.5 may be a play
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CWD
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#5
roll with it not against it these situations and league has changed
this year there was ton of games ov/un 51+ which has never really happened has it ?
im thinking both dogs and both overs you are looking at 3/4 at worst
unrelated note cbb UCLA/ASU total was 180 tonight and it went over
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unde0087
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Originally posted by CWD
roll with it not against it these situations and league has changed
this year there was ton of games ov/un 51+ which has never really happened has it ?
im thinking both dogs and both overs you are looking at 3/4 at worst
unrelated note cbb UCLA/ASU total was 180 tonight and it went over
I watched that game and that ending almost seemed like something was up on that total. I don't know that I have watched two teams run up and down the court giving up dunks on about 6 straight times down the floor, usually the only time you see that stuff is in the NBA when the scrubs come in. As a UNC fan the Heels will keep up scoring but not like that. I have to say it was pretty classless for UCLA, up 22, to not only be cherry picking but then shooting 3 balls within a few seconds into the shot clock. At no point even with only 2 minutes to go up over 20 did Alford take his starters out or even tell them to slow it down. They looked like the team down 20+ the way they were pushing the ball. Alford even calls a TO and you think he is telling them to run some clock or get his starters out but no, they all come back in and continue to try and put up as many points possible. It was definitely interesting to say the least. Can't imagine the ASU coach was too pleased.
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TheMoneyShot
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#7
The only reasonable explanation of how it could go under...
1. A few turnovers inside the Red Zone.
2. Atlanta's defensive scheme shuts down Rodgers. Holding GB to Under 23.5 is pretty impressive.
3. I can't see GB stopping Atlanta's offense. Like I said... the only way is having Atlanta's drives stalling inside the Red Zone and kicking FG's. Shanahan's play calling is ON FIRE.
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CWD
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01-22-12
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#8
Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
The only reasonable explanation of how it could go under...
1. A few turnovers inside the Red Zone.
2. Atlanta's defensive scheme shuts down Rodgers. Holding GB to Under 23.5 is pretty impressive.
3. I can't see GB stopping Atlanta's offense. Like I said... the only way is having Atlanta's drives stalling inside the Red Zone and kicking FG's. Shanahan's play calling is ON FIRE.
thats how it looks to me, only if green bay gets shut down will it go under, falcons will get their points i think thats close to given
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CWD
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#9
Originally posted by unde0087
I watched that game and that ending almost seemed like something was up on that total. I don't know that I have watched two teams run up and down the court giving up dunks on about 6 straight times down the floor, usually the only time you see that stuff is in the NBA when the scrubs come in. As a UNC fan the Heels will keep up scoring but not like that. I have to say it was pretty classless for UCLA, up 22, to not only be cherry picking but then shooting 3 balls within a few seconds into the shot clock. At no point even with only 2 minutes to go up over 20 did Alford take his starters out or even tell them to slow it down. They looked like the team down 20+ the way they were pushing the ball. Alford even calls a TO and you think he is telling them to run some clock or get his starters out but no, they all come back in and continue to try and put up as many points possible. It was definitely interesting to say the least. Can't imagine the ASU coach was too pleased.
you cant fault kids cause they shoot early in the shot clock, thats going to far imo. you might as well have a mercy rule if thats the case
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iceman02
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03-05-12
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#10
I like the under. I think both offenses will implement a long scoring positions purposely to keep the other offenses off the field.
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astro61200
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#11
If you take the GB/ATL under then you pretty much have to take the Falcons side. No way the Packers slow down the Falcons offense. Atlanta's D has looked decent lately.
Fun stats: ATL has went over the total in every one of their home games this season (9-0) while GB has went over in 7 of their 9 road games. As a favorite the Falcons have went over 10 of those 11 games, with the 11th being a push. Meanwhile the Packers have went over in 4 of their 5 games as a dog.
Their game this year went over the total (51) by 14 points. Packers have went over 6 games in a row. Falcons have went over 6 of their last 7, the one game that didn't was a push. Falcons are 14-2-1 going over the total this year.
Why is everyone on the over? Because the number is too low. Literally EVERYTHING points to it going over. Normally when it seems this much of a sure bet I avoid it but the only way it doesn't go over is if there are a ton of turnovers after long drives. Could that happen? Sure, but how likely is it?
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seaborneq
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09-08-06
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#12
Originally posted by astro61200
If you take the GB/ATL under then you pretty much have to take the Falcons side. No way the Packers slow down the Falcons offense. Atlanta's D has looked decent lately.
Fun stats: ATL has went over the total in every one of their home games this season (9-0) while GB has went over in 7 of their 9 road games. As a favorite the Falcons have went over 10 of those 11 games, with the 11th being a push. Meanwhile the Packers have went over in 4 of their 5 games as a dog.
Their game this year went over the total (51) by 14 points. Packers have went over 6 games in a row. Falcons have went over 6 of their last 7, the one game that didn't was a push. Falcons are 14-2-1 going over the total this year.
Why is everyone on the over? Because the number is too low. Literally EVERYTHING points to it going over. Normally when it seems this much of a sure bet I avoid it but the only way it doesn't go over is if there are a ton of turnovers after long drives. Could that happen? Sure, but how likely is it?
Great stuff.
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astro61200
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#13
Originally posted by iceman02
I like the under. I think both offenses will implement a long scoring positions purposely to keep the other offenses off the field.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but Atlanta was #3 in total passing yards this season and #2 in Passing TD's. Green Bay was #7 in passing yards and #1 in Passing TD's.
Green Bay was #31 (out of 32) in passing yards allowed while Atlanta was #28 (out of 32) in the same category. GB, however, was #8 in rushing yards. ATL was only 17th, but GB was 20th overall in rushing yards on offense.
Seems, to me, like a stretch that they're going to abandon what has worked for them all season when the defenses they're facing can't stop them. I know Ty Montgomery has been doing well lately, and Freeman/Coleman is a nice duo, but even if this happens, as soon as a team goes up by 14 you can bet the ball is going to start flying all over the place.
Could see the under hitting in the 1H if this takes place, but eventually one of them is going to need to score quicker and then the floodgates come bursting open. 3Q over is 13.5 +100 on 5dimes. Actually locking that in right now.
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Cuse0323
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#14
Good luck on totals. 34-27 type game, or 30-27. I'll just take the Pack, and Pats, and cash.
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Art Vandelay
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#15
[QUOTE=astro61200;26722896]If you take the GB/ATL under then you pretty much have to take the Falcons side. No way the Packers slow down the Falcons offense. Atlanta's D has looked decent lately.
Fun stats: ATL has went over the total in every one of their home games this season (9
Well said - Total should be around 65
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Enkhbat
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#16
Why is someone a sucker for betting the over? lol
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lakerboy
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#17
Falcons might score 50
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nyplayer33
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09-27-06
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#18
Last year super bowl dud anybody think Carolina n cam newton would look inept
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thetrinity
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01-25-11
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#19
Game will be 35 28 at halftime now probably
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The Hat
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09-24-16
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#20
Originally posted by unde0087
I watched that game and that ending almost seemed like something was up on that total. I don't know that I have watched two teams run up and down the court giving up dunks on about 6 straight times down the floor, usually the only time you see that stuff is in the NBA when the scrubs come in. As a UNC fan the Heels will keep up scoring but not like that. I have to say it was pretty classless for UCLA, up 22, to not only be cherry picking but then shooting 3 balls within a few seconds into the shot clock. At no point even with only 2 minutes to go up over 20 did Alford take his starters out or even tell them to slow it down. They looked like the team down 20+ the way they were pushing the ball. Alford even calls a TO and you think he is telling them to run some clock or get his starters out but no, they all come back in and continue to try and put up as many points possible. It was definitely interesting to say the least. Can't imagine the ASU coach was too pleased.
Alford still trying to win back believers after last season
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The Hat
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09-24-16
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#21
Originally posted by Seaweed
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Nobody thinks it will be under 60??
Defence steps up here
I consider the total at 54. I've already factored in that meaningless 4th quarter TD Atlanta will give up because they're up three scores late.
I see you didn't learn anything from your Sixers/Raptors thread
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Waterstpub87
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09-09-09
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#25
There are some bets which really appeal to people who are trying way too hard to be sharp. Betting the under 60 looks like the unintuative, logical play based on how high that total is, but those offenses put up points. Anything could happen, but why risk it, better plays on the board for sunday.
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Auto Donk
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09-03-13
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#26
Originally posted by Seaweed
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Nobody thinks it will be under 60??
Defence steps up here
I'll take the over for $10,000.00, please..... ASAP!!!!!
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ChuckyTheGoat
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#27
What % of bets/$$ are coming in on the Over?
Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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BigdaddyQH
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#28
We can depend on dumb s**ts like yourself to take the under. The over is the only solid wager this weekend.
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gjeet7
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#29
it might be 14-10, 14-14 at halftime with each team having 2 drives...they can run long drives that take 7-8 minutes off the clock, and if a team does that and only gets a fg or turnover...60 will be tough
i was leaning under myself
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goldust
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#30
I'm considering a 10pt tease on GB +15.5, over 50 and NE +4.
Over 50 or under 70 is the question though. I just can't imagine them not scoring more than 50 here.
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unde0087
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#31
Originally posted by CWD
you cant fault kids cause they shoot early in the shot clock, thats going to far imo. you might as well have a mercy rule if thats the case
I am not faulting the kids. It was pretty obvious what they were trying to do and that is get 100. Just saying, its pretty stupid for Alford to leave Ball in the game like that when it is helter skelter and he gets injured for the season on a freak play, I would love to hear his excuse for that. UCLA would be kissing any shot they had for a title because they wanted to score 100 on ASU. Real smart coaching, that is what I was getting at. If you want to run and try to get 100 fine, but why are your starters still in the game? I would think UCLA has bigger goals at this point then run the score up on a Pac 12 pantsy.
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RockBottom
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#32
Originally posted by gjeet7
it might be 14-10, 14-14 at halftime with each team having 2 drives...they can run long drives that take 7-8 minutes off the clock, and if a team does that and only gets a fg or turnover...60 will be tough
i was leaning under myself
Can't see GB making long sustained drives in the 1H with little running game. Atlanta can play that way though. If one likes the under, it may be better to play in-game after a couple of scores and hope.
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TheMoneyShot
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#33
Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
What % of bets/$$ are coming in on the Over?
From all the services out there... it's a crapshoot even if percentages show you 70%+ is on the over.... and you take the under. Public percentages are typically meaningless regarding O/U. Haven't found any consistency in regards to this.
Now, around game time... if you check a service... and the Over is at 82-83%+ and higher.... you could hit the Under... but again... in my opinion it's still a 50-50 wager.
For some reason services are inconsistent in regards to O/U's
Good luck Chucky
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INVEGA MAN
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#34
love the under and will be winning in the 4th quarter
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StackinGreen
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#35
Originally posted by gjeet7
it might be 14-10, 14-14 at halftime with each team having 2 drives...they can run long drives that take 7-8 minutes off the clock, and if a team does that and only gets a fg or turnover...60 will be tough
i was leaning under myself
This is far more common for these teams than anyone realizes ... the number is super high, no doubt
Remember the last public square play total (Oakland at Houston) ... went OVER the number, everyone was talking under under under easy blah blah blah