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  • gauchojake
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    • 09-17-10
    • 34103

    #36
    live wager middles available all day every day. Mine never hit though. Sawyer have you changed your stance on this http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...-pinnacle.html
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388189

      #37
      Lol arbitrage if you live in USA 🇺🇸
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      • BuckyOne
        SBR MVP
        • 01-02-15
        • 2728

        #38
        Does anybody know how the volume of money bet before these games compares to the money bet while the game is live?
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        • PAULYPOKER
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          • 12-06-08
          • 36585

          #39
          Live betting is a very volatile market which is very available to USA players.

          This would be arbitrage by definition.......

          Yes, live betting is arbitrage.....

          Whoever says different does not understand "Arbing"........
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          • gauchojake
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            • 09-17-10
            • 34103

            #40
            Clippers game perfect example...Pregame bet clippers +105, live bet Min +160. Only problem is betting limits.
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            • Sawyer
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-01-09
              • 7710

              #41
              Originally posted by gauchojake
              live wager middles available all day every day. Mine never hit though. Sawyer have you changed your stance on this http://www.sportsbookreview.com/foru...-pinnacle.html
              No, still it applies. Still losing in Pinnacle and winning in other bookmakers. I even make some of my action in form of value bet. In these bets, I don't hedge the arb or I arb some part of the risk.
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              • BuckyOne
                SBR MVP
                • 01-02-15
                • 2728

                #42
                Even then to make any money you had to go 500 a pop. Constantly beating the donkey side and needing to bank. Big difference in beating a donkey and beating somebody that moved on action. There are books that want players to take some buy back when they want it. The books that irritate me are trying to beat 100% of the players and when the action splits and some players win and want to cash out they get pissed because they have to pay anybody. That is my definition of the entertainment book which is similar to Hotel California - you can check out but you can never leave!
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                • RudyRuetigger
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-24-10
                  • 65086

                  #43
                  Originally posted by gauchojake
                  Clippers game perfect example...Pregame bet clippers +105, live bet Min +160. Only problem is betting limits.
                  jake do not try to act sharp

                  you are as round as ttwarrior
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                  • Bostongambler
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                    • 02-01-08
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                    jake do not try to act sharp

                    you are as round as ttwarrior
                    But in this example u still have to have a side ( clippers) take a lead. True Scalping and arbing the only risk is getting ur money.
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                    • RudyRuetigger
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 08-24-10
                      • 65086

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Bostongambler
                      But in this example u still have to have a side ( clippers) take a lead. True Scalping and arbing the only risk is getting ur money.
                      hence my post pal
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                      • The Giant
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 01-21-12
                        • 21480

                        #46
                        Originally posted by gauchojake
                        Clippers game perfect example...Pregame bet clippers +105, live bet Min +160. Only problem is betting limits.
                        Bookmaker has like $200 limits during live action, but you can get down upwards to $3000 during commercial breaks.

                        I'll only bet during commercial breaks. My cable set up is so slow, I'm usually 30 seconds behind the action.
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                        • TheProfitcy
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 03-27-17
                          • 2

                          #47
                          I'm confused why some people are saying this is over. I was just turned onto Ganchrows post at this site by a co-worker who claims he arbs (sent me here to learn) and he paid off his student loans, house, and car. His bro is up $50,000 since August '16. The only reason he's working with me is supposedly because he took a very big hit when Germany dominated Brazil in the world cup. Of course this is only his word, but other employees are witnesses to his winnings. They often bet alongside him to win. I know there must be some strategy to it. Is he a suggested scam? Everyone here bets staight line using EV and EG or what? I'm so confused now.
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                          • BuckyOne
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-02-15
                            • 2728

                            #48
                            Originally posted by rkelly110
                            Sawyer still arbing?

                            Only sport worthwhile is MLB. Take dog ML and fave RL at +220 (min) odds. Same book. Then hold onto your butt.
                            Hey man, that is a Polish middle. I am not ready to call that an arb or a scalp. It does work sometimes but takes handicapping on when to try it.
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                            • gauchojake
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                              • 09-17-10
                              • 34103

                              #49
                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                              hence my post pal
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                              • evo34
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-09-08
                                • 1032

                                #50
                                Originally posted by TheProfitcy
                                I'm confused why some people are saying this is over. I was just turned onto Ganchrows post at this site by a co-worker who claims he arbs (sent me here to learn) and he paid off his student loans, house, and car. His bro is up $50,000 since August '16. The only reason he's working with me is supposedly because he took a very big hit when Germany dominated Brazil in the world cup. Of course this is only his word, but other employees are witnesses to his winnings. They often bet alongside him to win. I know there must be some strategy to it. Is he a suggested scam? Everyone here bets staight line using EV and EG or what? I'm so confused now.
                                Odds of co-worker's brother being a net positive lifetime sports bettor: +500000. A lot of people "witnessed" Phil Mickelson and Charles Barkley winning big. With rare exception, the ones actually winning are not the ones showing off about it.
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                                • 19th Hole
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-22-09
                                  • 18847

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by RetiredinPunta
                                  But anyways, I have seen threads like this in many forums before...almost everyone one who starts a thread like this is trying to peddle something. i wouldn't be surprised if you slot in some service after few replies.
                                  Hey Newbie... Not so fast Donkey Breath...Sawyer is a stand-up guy who's a long-time, respected member of SBR
                                  May you be disease-free in your 3rd world lifestyle.
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388189

                                    #52
                                    lol

                                    Arber

                                    Tie up like 3k to win $30
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                                    • tomallen123
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 02-01-14
                                      • 179

                                      #53
                                      no

                                      too tough to get money in and out

                                      cannot access low juice books

                                      thread over
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388189

                                        #54
                                        Thread over



                                        Originally posted by tomallen123
                                        no

                                        too tough to get money in and out

                                        cannot access low juice books

                                        thread over
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                                        • biggie12
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-30-05
                                          • 13784

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                          lol

                                          Arber

                                          Tie up like 3k to win $30
                                          JJ i can make $300-1000 some days but i have alot more outs in canada.

                                          Its still hard to find good arbs within the bigger markets that have higher limits.

                                          Days of little to no work 20-40% Arbs are long gone.. its almost a full time job sclaping 2-5cent arbs
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                                          • milwaukee mike
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                                            • 08-22-07
                                            • 26914

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            lol

                                            Arber

                                            Tie up like 3k to win $30
                                            i guess it's better to post 100 times a day to make $30
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                                            • Bluehorseshoe
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 07-13-06
                                              • 14985

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by biggie12

                                              Days of little to no work 20-40% Arbs are long gone.. its almost a full time job sclaping 2-5cent arbs
                                              It's worth it for a 5 cent arb?
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                                              • dlowilly
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-09-16
                                                • 13862

                                                #58
                                                Are all these live arbs people are referring to done at different times or made simultaneously? If you're opening and closing arbs at different times and after scoring or other events you aren't arbing, you're gambling with double the juice. You're basically putting a chip on the pass line and another chip on the don't pass line so you can get free drinks and praying the 12 never shows on the come out roll.
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                                                • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                  • 04-04-11
                                                  • 36835

                                                  #59
                                                  I'd say:

                                                  * Arb-betting? No. Everybody's lines are too tight. #s move quickly. No edge.

                                                  * In-game betting? Possible. But my experience is that these lines have too much juice. House trying to protect themselves.
                                                  Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                  • ChuckyTheGoat
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                                                    • 04-04-11
                                                    • 36835

                                                    #60
                                                    Follow-up to Dlow's comment:

                                                    * He's correct. Hedging is not the same as arbing. Some people don't get this.

                                                    Hedging a halftime bet vs a Full-game bet, b/c you're in good postion? So what? Do u have an edge on the NEW line? If not, don't fire.

                                                    This is a concept people have to comprehend. Don't piss away your equity positions.
                                                    Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                    • BuckyOne
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-02-15
                                                      • 2728

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                      i guess it's better to post 100 times a day to make $30
                                                      Mike - help me explain to JJ that if you tie up 30k a day and profit 300 bucks a day - that is over a 100k profit in a years time.
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                                                      • Foxx
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 05-25-11
                                                        • 5825

                                                        #62
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                                                        • Foxx
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 05-25-11
                                                          • 5825

                                                          #63
                                                          Arbing in the USA
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                                                          • RoyBacon
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                                                            • 09-21-05
                                                            • 37074

                                                            #64
                                                            crypto currency is arb heaven.
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                                                            • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 04-04-11
                                                              • 36835

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                              crypto currency is arb heaven.
                                                              Did not know that. Are u saying that u get entrance into different books, by depositing w/ Bitcoin?
                                                              Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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                                                              • biggie12
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-30-05
                                                                • 13784

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
                                                                It's worth it for a 5 cent arb?
                                                                if you wanna sit at the computer 16 hours a day to make a maybe $100-200 its worth it.

                                                                But the times are changing, its hard to get any decent volume down even here in canada.
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                                                                • milwaukee mike
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                                                                  • 08-22-07
                                                                  • 26914

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by BuckyOne
                                                                  Mike - help me explain to JJ that if you tie up 30k a day and profit 300 bucks a day - that is over a 100k profit in a years time.
                                                                  if he was a good gambler he would be in a better financial position and wouldn't have to play pretend on sbr
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                                                                  • milwaukee mike
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 08-22-07
                                                                    • 26914

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                    I'd say:

                                                                    * Arb-betting? No. Everybody's lines are too tight. #s move quickly. No edge.

                                                                    * In-game betting? Possible. But my experience is that these lines have too much juice. House trying to protect themselves.
                                                                    i would disagree to the extent that someone could play at off-market books, or has decent limits on props/small market stuff ... but that comes to an end at some point

                                                                    and in that case it's better to just play the side with value than arb it anyway
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388189

                                                                      #69
                                                                      It's a waste of time
                                                                      You get banned

                                                                      Also impossible to move post up money weekly without delays from book to book


                                                                      It's a rookie thread
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                                                                      • ChuckyTheGoat
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 04-04-11
                                                                        • 36835

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                        i would disagree to the extent that someone could play at off-market books, or has decent limits on props/small market stuff ... but that comes to an end at some point

                                                                        and in that case it's better to just play the side with value than arb it anyway
                                                                        Agreed. Can do it for a while for small-limits. But most books just move on air now. I'm just not sure what books you'd middle against.

                                                                        For a little $...sure. Just can't see it lasting.
                                                                        Where's the fuckin power box, Carol?
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