Clemson made the worst decision they could make...and won. Duh

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  • ABEHONEST
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    #1
    Clemson made the worst decision they could make...and won. Duh
    Percentage wise, I see this decision to score from the 2 yard line as the worst possible decision a coach could make. It's like they were scared they would lose in OT, with that 90% or better field goal shot that would send them there, and with Alabama now on it's heels? If they don't score with 6 seconds left, it's over. Lot's of things could have went wrong with only 6 seconds left. But plenty of time for that routine FG, though.

    They had everything going their way. The momentum, Alabama's big running back was sidelined, and again, that powerful momentum they found when everything is clicking for them. Especially the QB, who was nearly unstoppable that last quarter.

    Two of these for a lucky team and coach.
    And the best team lost this game--but could they win in OT with that powerful back sitting?
    And add, millions of dollars also, with that lame decision.
  • jjgold
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    • 07-20-05
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    #2
    Bama could not stop them
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    • Sam Odom
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      #3
      old news

      winners today ?
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      • ABEHONEST
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        #4
        Originally posted by jjgold
        Bama could not stop them
        But 6 seconds versus 15 minutes. Right? Or is it trade TD chances from the 10 yd line? I believe the latter.
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        • thellama
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          • 11-27-15
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          #5
          That ball is dropped clock stops, that play blows up the ball is downed and a time out is taken. It was a well played game, you can't assume they'd botch that last play so badly that they wouldn't have had time for a FG.

          Yeah, but those 6 seconds was like snap 99 or 100 for the Bama defense, that's just them being on the field too long. Bama offense did not help them out with a few first downs.
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          • ABEHONEST
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            #6
            Originally posted by Sam Odom
            old news

            winners today ?
            Sam, you're not like Bill Clinton at all! You don't feel our pain.
            This is what we must do to heal.
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            • Sam Odom
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              • 10-30-05
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              #7
              Originally posted by ABEHONEST
              Sam, you're not like Bill Clinton at all! You don't feel our pain.
              This is what we must do to heal.

              carry on

              Sammy cares
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              • ABEHONEST
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                #8
                Originally posted by thellama
                That ball is dropped clock stops, that play blows up the ball is downed and a time out is taken. It was a well played game, you can't assume they'd botch that last play so badly that they wouldn't have had time for a FG.
                Nope, you don't gamble with 6 seconds. Where's coach Bear Bryant?
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                • maggiethebestdog
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                  But 6 seconds versus 15 minutes. Right? Or is it trade TD chances from the 10 yd line? I believe the latter.
                  Not only is your thread premise devoid of any football knowledge, you don't even no the basic rules of College Football. I would ask you why you would start a thread about a subject you know nothing about, but that would be a hypothetical.
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                  • dlowilly
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                    • 11-09-16
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                    #10
                    Everything went right for Clemson in that 4th quarter

                    If I hear a Clemson fan complain about calls or injuries or the other team getting lucky in the next 2 years I'm going to punch them in the teeth
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                    • jtoler
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                      • 12-17-13
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                      #11
                      6 seconds is an eternity for the play they were doing, either its a completion or incomplete and clock stops then they kick the fg.
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                      • Time is Money
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                        • 12-03-07
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                        #12
                        No brainer, Clemson saw that they could run a crossing route where one WR bullrushes the Bama defense and not get called for a pick play on their previous touchdown so they knew it was a guaranteed 6 when they ran it again.
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                        • CWD
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                          Not only is your thread premise devoid of any football knowledge, you don't even no the basic rules of College Football. I would ask you why you would start a thread about a subject you know nothing about, but that would be a hypothetical.
                          poor abe takes it on the chin again

                          but deservedly so
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                          • The Giant
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                            • 01-21-12
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                            #14
                            It was easily the right decision. There was still a second left, so even had the pass gone incomplete, there would still have been time.
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                            • kidcudi92
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                              • 12-14-11
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                              Not only is your thread premise devoid of any football knowledge, you don't even no the basic rules of College Football. I would ask you why you would start a thread about a subject you know nothing about, but that would be a hypothetical.
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                              • LCTiger
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                                • 01-05-17
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                                #16
                                Two of these for a lucky team and coach.
                                And the best team lost this game--but could they win in OT with that powerful back sitting?
                                And add, millions of dollars also, with that lame decision. [/QUOTE]


                                Lucky team and lucky coach who have lost 2 games in 2 years. What a joke, the real Heisman winner took the ball with 2 minutes left and drove it down the best D's throat to win a a national championship. Two games against alabama and DW4 put up over 900 yards and 75 points. Clemson will one day get the notoriety they have earned.

                                Saban was 97-0 when leading by DD starting the 4th.

                                Lucky team and lucky coach shut down Urban Meyer and beat Nick Saban back to back.

                                Obviously with 6 seconds and a timeout, ample amount of time!

                                Snarky comments about being a newbie and first time poster can start now...

                                Go Tigers!
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                                • INVEGA MAN
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                                  #17
                                  Easy call when they knew they got away with the pick the 1st time and went back to it. And don't tell me it wasn't a pick because Clem QB admitted after the game that he called the pick. Nothing wrong with it if you can get away with it. ND didn't get away with it, did they
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                                  • maggiethebestdog
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by INVEGA MAN
                                    Easy call when they knew they got away with the pick the 1st time and went back to it. And don't tell me it wasn't a pick because Clem QB admitted after the game that he called the pick. Nothing wrong with it if you can get away with it. ND didn't get away with it, did they
                                    It is very easy to tell the guys on here who never played sports. It is the DB's JOB to not get blown up and pick his own man. If you allow a WR to do that to you then your team will lose. Not even remotely close to a pick play. It was a football play.
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                                    • ABEHONEST
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                      Not only is your thread premise devoid of any football knowledge, you don't even no the basic rules of College Football. I would ask you why you would start a thread about a subject you know nothing about, but that would be a hypothetical.
                                      Oops, the sissy mind reader's just stepped in.
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                                      • ABEHONEST
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jtoler
                                        6 seconds is an eternity for the play they were doing, either its a completion or incomplete and clock stops then they kick the fg.
                                        Right! So, 1 second is plenty of time and I am sure that's what they assumed they would have if the play failed. Laughable.
                                        They also knew the receiver would be wide open. Saving them that ONE second.
                                        Last edited by ABEHONEST; 01-11-17, 08:15 PM.
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                                        • krk1030
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                                          • 08-13-08
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                                          #21
                                          It was a one read play, either it worked like it did or he throws it away and they kick a FG. Watson too smart and good under pressure to screw up and let the clock run out.
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                                          • maggiethebestdog
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                                            #22
                                            Abe doesn't do football or any other sports. I do agree with him now that Clemson should have went to overtime and taken their chances in the 15 minute OT period trading chances to score touchdowns from the 10 yd line. It is hard to argue with that wisdom.
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                                            • CWD
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                              Oops, the sissy mind reader's just stepped in.
                                              abe i heard u dont do football

                                              or any other sports for that matter
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                                              • Cuse0323
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                                                #24
                                                Who won? I didn't watch.
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                                                • ABEHONEST
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Cuse0323
                                                  Who won? I didn't watch.
                                                  Clemson won the game and I won this debate.
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                                                  • Cuse0323
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                                    Clemson won the game and I won this debate.
                                                    Sounds good. I never doubt honest Abe.
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                                                    • ABEHONEST
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                                      Clemson won the game and I won this debate.
                                                      I am lucky to have these highly intelligent followers. I'm playing my Trump card right now.
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                                                      • Cuse0323
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                                                        #28
                                                        Though, your name is backwards. Like your thoughts. If it isn't wide open, then he throws it in the dirt and go for OT. 6 seconds is a century for an intelligent QB in that situation. But, you'll get it back this weekend. Pound Seattle because I'm putting my Clempson winnings on ATL.

                                                        Ahhhh, the memories. Seattle at Atlanta in 2013. -2.5, and I put it all on ATL. They let Russ dominate the 4th to go up 1, but then magically start playing again to hit the game winner. After the dipshit tries to run the game out. Something Smith. End up winning by 2. Great day.
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                                                        • maggiethebestdog
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                                          Clemson won the game and I won this debate.
                                                          I believe that you believe that.
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                                                          • ABEHONEST
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by maggiethebestdog
                                                            I believe that you believe that.
                                                            Yes, because the real football experts have not really pinned it yet.
                                                            Also, the typical QB needs at least 3 to 4 seconds to even get into his windup in a dramatic last second play such as that had to be. He certainly could not just lob the football over the goal line.
                                                            He probably did it one second sooner than average because the receiver was wide open. No sweat, except he still had to hit the target pronto.
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                                                            • maggiethebestdog
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                                              Yes, because the real football experts have not really pinned it yet.
                                                              Also, the typical QB needs at least 3 to 4 seconds to even get into his windup in a dramatic last second play such as that had to be. He certainly could not just lob the football over the goal line.
                                                              He probably did it one second sooner than average because the receiver was wide open. No sweat, except he still had to hit the target pronto.
                                                              If the guy is not wide open he throws it way short and kills the clock with 2 seconds left. Basic football.
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                                                              • BeatTheJerk
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                                                                #32
                                                                You can make that same play with 4 seconds you idiot. Completed or not ...
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                                                                • BeatTheJerk
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  2 seconds came off because he rolled through the end zone moron !
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                                                                  • ABEHONEST
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by BeatTheJerk
                                                                    2 seconds came off because he rolled through the end zone moron !
                                                                    So you're the expert I've been looking for? Thanks a lot. Another loser name caller.
                                                                    You mean he rolled like a wheel barrel?
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                                                                    • d2bets
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by ABEHONEST
                                                                      Percentage wise, I see this decision to score from the 2 yard line as the worst possible decision a coach could make. It's like they were scared they would lose in OT, with that 90% or better field goal shot that would send them there, and with Alabama now on it's heels? If they don't score with 6 seconds left, it's over. Lot's of things could have went wrong with only 6 seconds left. But plenty of time for that routine FG, though.

                                                                      They had everything going their way. The momentum, Alabama's big running back was sidelined, and again, that powerful momentum they found when everything is clicking for them. Especially the QB, who was nearly unstoppable that last quarter.

                                                                      Two of these for a lucky team and coach.
                                                                      And the best team lost this game--but could they win in OT with that powerful back sitting?
                                                                      And add, millions of dollars also, with that lame decision.
                                                                      Dude, you literally couldn't be more wrong if you tried. If they kick a FG with 6 seconds it's the worst decision in the history of football. They even had a TO in their pocket. They could have run the ball too. No reason it takes 6 seconds to run a play from the 2 yard line. Of course you try to punch it in.

                                                                      Is this thread a joke?
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