Brent Musburger and ESPN treating Joe Mixon like a hero

[chico2663]

Plus the whole' "I just reacted to being hit" doesn't fly if you show no concern after it's over and she might be dead, but instead just stroll out the door.

Had 2 friends that got in an drunk argument over white castles. One hit the other and killed him. He did 3 years and not a day don't go by that he has regrets

[Mac4Lyfe]

He called her a c@nt. Don't know too many that wouldn't.

That's not what her friends said...

The many witnesses to the incident agreed that he only came over to the table where she was because she was repeatedly yelling at him and calling him the N*-word. He apparently tried to ask her why she was calling him names, when she lunged at him; she first pushed him, then punched him, then spit in HIS face, whereupon he struck her. According to her friends, they had all been drinking heavily and were also "high" (NFI).

I don't know all the particulars of what happened but if she really did spit in his face, she deserved getting beat down. Bottom line, I don't think she will ever win a legal case. He acted in self defense. No one knows his mental state when she hit him. He may have feared for his life with her and her posse, drunk, and high. He defended himself and it does not matter what gender of the participants. She hit him first. Case closed...

[chico2663]

Yeah you dont go messing with a guys family,I dont know what id do if someone was doing that to a member of my family. Did the creep stop following your niece.

Yes his dad made him after my brother threatened to whip the fathers butt. They played ball together and he knew my brother. I think the kid got kicked out of Notre dame for the same thing. Kid started played a lot for notre dame his freshman year.

[fried cheese]

I have 7 clients whose deaths were on the first 48. No I try to walk away. Last fight I had I hurt someone that cost me 67,000. I would rather walk away

i get you wont risk hitting someone because of monetary reasons. but if we are talking about who deserves to get hit i would never hit someone for calling me a name but if someone slapped me i would do something at least twice as severe as they did to me since they started it. there was an asshole on my football team that like to slap underclassmen all the time. i was a one of the bigger underclassmen so i was a bit bigger than him and knew how to wrestle so i slammed him on the floor slapped him then shoved his face into our locker room disgusting carpet. no one thought i was out of line.

[packerd_00]

What does him being stronger or a better fighter have to do with it? So are you saying that it's okay for you or I to punch Mike Tyson and him not defend himself? He's a hell of a lot stronger and can certainly beat our ass. That does not give us a free pass to hit him.

I lived down the street from muscle beach in Ca. I grew up in Cleveland Ohio. I've met many woman that can beat most men's ass. I mean most men. I made it a point to always be good friends with them because although I'm a very big, strong man, they would give me a run for my money. So excuse me if I do not underestimate anyone, man, woman or child/teenager.

I now live in Texas. We are a gun toting state. I have no idea what someone's intentions are. I can take you to 3 shooting ranges within a few miles of me and guess what you will see. Half the people there are women. I love your chivalry but it will get you dead here. Women are shooting men in record numbers these days.

Realize you could kill the girl,just lucky he didn't get done for manslaughter and only broke her jaw,he walloped her pretty good.

[chico2663]

That's not what her friends said...

The many witnesses to the incident agreed that he only came over to the table where she was because she was repeatedly yelling at him and calling him the N*-word. He apparently tried to ask her why she was calling him names, when she lunged at him; she first pushed him, then punched him, then spit in HIS face, whereupon he struck her. According to her friends, they had all been drinking heavily and were also "high" (NFI).

I don't know all the particulars of what happened but if she really did spit in his face, she deserved getting beat down. Bottom line, I don't think she will ever win a legal case. He acted in self defense. No one knows his mental state when she hit him. He may have feared for his life with her and her posse, drunk, and high. He defended himself and it does not matter what gender of the participants. She hit him first. Case closed...

My niece goes there and that isn't the way it was said. Her friend said something to him outside. He got out of the car and followed her inside. She wasn't impressed and he said what I said to her so she slapped him. That is when he punched her.

Where in cleveland you go to school. Have alot of friends from akron. Couple from clev. Although I am older than you.

[fried cheese]

That's not what her friends said...

The many witnesses to the incident agreed that he only came over to the table where she was because she was repeatedly yelling at him and calling him the N*-word. He apparently tried to ask her why she was calling him names, when she lunged at him; she first pushed him, then punched him, then spit in HIS face, whereupon he struck her. According to her friends, they had all been drinking heavily and were also "high" (NFI).

I don't know all the particulars of what happened but if she really did spit in his face, she deserved getting beat down. Bottom line, I don't think she will ever win a legal case. He acted in self defense. No one knows his mental state when she hit him. He may have feared for his life with her and her posse, drunk, and high. He defended himself and it does not matter what gender of the participants. She hit him first. Case closed...

if she spit in his face then she got what she deserved. otherwise it was a bit extreme a good hard slap would have been ok to me.

[chico2663]

i get you wont risk hitting someone because of monetary reasons. but if we are talking about who deserves to get hit i would never hit someone for calling me a name but if someone slapped me i would do something at least twice as severe as they did to me since they started it. there was an asshole on my football team that like to slap underclassmen all the time. i was a one of the bigger underclassmen so i was a bit bigger than him and knew how to wrestle so i slammed him on the floor slapped him then shoved his face into our locker room disgusting carpet. no one thought i was out of line.

All thru college I fought. But when you hurt someone and they take money out of your pocket than yourthought process changes.

[chico2663]

if she spit in his face then she got what she deserved. otherwise it was a bit extreme a good hard slap would have been ok to me.

[chico2663]

Outside he was in the car and she wasn't even talking to him. Please show me where she spit in his face?

[Mac4Lyfe]

Where did you go to high school

I went to John Adams and Cleveland Heights. Lived all over Cleveland from Kinsman and 75th, Restor Ave behind John F Kennedy, St Clair and 123rd, Off Superior, on Severn behind Severance Mall to name a few.

[packerd_00]

Yes his dad made him after my brother threatened to whip the fathers butt. They played ball together and he knew my brother. I think the kid got kicked out of Notre dame for the same thing. Kid started played a lot for notre dame his freshman year.

Oh your brother knew the guy,thats messed up mate.Do you remember what the guys name was.

[chico2663]

Yes but better to let sleeping dogs lie

[chico2663]

Oh your brother knew the guy,thats messed up mate.Do you remember what the guys name was.

Guy was first team all state in texas.

[chico2663]

I went to John Adams and Cleveland Heights. Lived all over Cleveland from Kinsman and 75th, Restor Ave behind John F Kennedy, St Clair and 123rd, Off Superior, on Severn behind Severance Mall to name a few.

Knew a couple guys that went to cleve st eds. They went to school with me at miami. My little cousin graduated from u.f in 2006 was you at school then.

[fried cheese]

Outside he was in the car and she wasn't even talking to him. Please show me where she spit in his face?

i dont know if she did but mac said someone said that. she could have spit in his face when she slapped him though. either way i have no sympathy for her since she hit him first. if you hit someone expect to get hit back. his punch was extreme for a slap so i think what he got was fine but ppl in here are acting like he should be in jail lol.

[packerd_00]

Guy was first team all state in texas.

Ok I was going to a google search on the guy,that was all.

[Mac4Lyfe]

My niece goes there and that isn't the way it was said. Her friend said something to him outside. He got out of the car and followed her inside. She wasn't impressed and he said what I said to her so she slapped him. That is when he punched her.
Where in cleveland you go to school. Have alot of friends from akron. Couple from clev. Although I am older than you.

She started the altercation outside...

• The actual beginning of the argument started outside whenever Amelia Molitor’s friend started to smoke a cigarette by Joe Mixon.
• At that point, Mixon moved away, and Molitor came and blew smoke from a cigarette in his face. That is when Mark Andrews intervened, as well as Christian Daimler, Wesley Horky, and Matt Dimon. She looked at Mark Andrews and said “you never met a ***** like me.” This argument continued.

If you look at the video, you can see spit from her mouth fly into his face. She was drunk and high as hell, she did not want the police to be called after the incident because she knew she was in the wrong. Her friend and her both called him the N word, which is threatening in itself. Later, She didn't even know what happened as she was high as hell. I'm not trying to condone what he did because I think he could have just grabbed her, especially if she was drunk, but I have no idea what he was thinking at the time. I cannot fault him for defending himself the way he felt necessary.

[dlowilly]

She started the altercation outside...

• The actual beginning of the argument started outside whenever Amelia Molitor’s friend started to smoke a cigarette by Joe Mixon.
• At that point, Mixon moved away, and Molitor came and blew smoke from a cigarette in his face. That is when Mark Andrews intervened, as well as Christian Daimler, Wesley Horky, and Matt Dimon. She looked at Mark Andrews and said “you never met a ***** like me.” This argument continued.

If you look at the video, you can see spit from her mouth fly into his face. She was drunk and high as hell, she did not want the police to be called after the incident because she knew she was in the wrong. Her friend and her both called him the N word, which is threatening in itself. Later, She didn't even know what happened as she was high as hell. I'm not trying to condone what he did because I think he could have just grabbed her, especially if she was drunk, but I have no idea what he was thinking at the time. I cannot fault him for defending himself the way he felt necessary.

Crazy post

He followed them inside. He stood over them and tried to intimidate. Another black guy was seated at the table and we are supposed to believe the white guy was slinging the word N****r around. Your evidence is hearsay based on the word of Mixon and his teammates of things that happened conveniently off camera. Even if everything you said she did was true, he sought out confrontation and met minimal threat with maximum violence.

[chico2663]

Difference between us. I have seen a lot of athletes get in trouble by hitting woman. In cinti if he would of hit a white girl the cops would of tuned him up. But then again that is why we had riots in the nati. They will be having another as soon as they let the ray off for killing sam. Glad i'm not there

[Mac4Lyfe]

Knew a couple guys that went to cleve st eds. They went to school with me at miami. My little cousin graduated from u.f in 2006 was you at school then.

We could never get by the Catholic schools in basketball and football. St Ed, St Joes and St Ignatius would always trip us up, although we won state in track my senior year.

I played at football at UF a long time ago (1983 - 1986). That's when we were just coming into power but we ended up on probation (Charlie Pell years) which fueled the Miami, FSU rise.

[chico2663]

Yes you are couple years younger. I was offered partial baseball to u.f. but to far from home lol. I was on meat squad for a month in 81 at miami until I found rugby.

[fried cheese]

Crazy post

He followed them inside. He stood over them and tried to intimidate. Another black guy was seated at the table and we are supposed to believe the white guy was slinging the word N****r around. Your evidence is hearsay based on the word of Mixon and his teammates of things that happened conveniently off camera. Even if everything you said she did was true, he sought out confrontation and met minimal threat with maximum violence.

well she did lie in her lawsuit against him so im inclined to believe him more than her.

"She states she was punched when she pushed him away from the table in an effort to end the discussion"

he already started to walk away before she pushed him or slapped him.

[chico2663]

We could never get by the Catholic schools in basketball and football. St Ed, St Joes and St Ignatius would always trip us up, although we won state in track my senior year.

I played at football at UF a long time ago (1983 - 1986). That's when we were just coming into power but we ended up on probation (Charlie Pell years) which fueled the Miami, FSU rise.

Mydisability policy runs out in july 2018 and then have to go on social security. When that happens if you need some help tutoring let me know. May go to foreign country to teach lol

[Mac4Lyfe]

Crazy post
He followed them inside. He stood over them and tried to intimidate. Another black guy was seated at the table and we are supposed to believe the white guy was slinging the word N****r around. Your evidence is hearsay based on the word of Mixon and his teammates of things that happened conveniently off camera. Even if everything you said she did was true, he sought out confrontation and met minimal threat with maximum violence.

Read below from the interrogation. It is known that her friend used the N word. Mixon and/or friends called him a homo, she reacted.

1. It is still unknown if Amelia Molitor used the “N” word towards Joe Mixon. Some have reported it, and sources have told me that she in fact said that to him at least once. From this interrogation video, we still do not know. We do know that Molitor’s friend used the “N” word at or describing Mixon whenever Mixon showed up at the table.

So the girl who was high as hell, who was blowing smoke in the direction of several football players, who then blew smoke directly in Mixon's face even after he moved away from the first smoke, the girl who doesn't even remember what happened, with her high as hell friends were innocent in all of this. Nevermind that she slapped him, and threw the first punch. GTFOH

• Paris Townsend, a former OU softball player, told Mixon’s attorneys that Molitor was quoted in the bathroom as saying, “Do not call the police, I do not want the police involved, I do not want to look stupid.” Molitor is also quoted as saying that she does not remember anything that happened.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Yes you are couple years younger. I was offered partial baseball to u.f. but to far from home lol. I was on meat squad for a month in 81 at miami until I found rugby.

Where you gave blood...

[chico2663]

Where you gave blood...

lost part of my hand. I was studying dentistry and ruined my ring finger and couldn't pass the finger dexterity test. If we could only go back in time.

[The Kraken]

We all have different set of ethics and morals, so we all have differeing opinions and perspective

Some guys think he should serve time and never play again because hitting a woman and causing the injuries he did is unacceptable for a man. Other guys think if a woman wants to spit in a mans face and slap him, then she can take a punch like a man, no special treatment.

Neither viewpoint is any more or less correct than the other and none of us are in a position to be judge or jury.

No matter what, try to leave the world a little better place than you found it each and every day.

[dlowilly]

well she did lie in her lawsuit against him so im inclined to believe him more than her.

"She states she was punched when she pushed him away from the table in an effort to end the discussion"

he already started to walk away before she pushed him or slapped him.

He followed them in so he could walk away? Come on. She pushed him, he lunged and fainted at her, she slapped him, he knocked her out. Yes, if she were a male it would have been justified. But if she were a male she would have been capable of doing to him what he did to her. There were a hundred different ways he could have avoided or subdued her without doing that.

[dlowilly]

Read below from the interrogation. It is known that her friend used the N word. Mixon and/or friends called him a homo, she reacted.

1. It is still unknown if Amelia Molitor used the “N” word towards Joe Mixon. Some have reported it, and sources have told me that she in fact said that to him at least once. From this interrogation video, we still do not know. We do know that Molitor’s friend used the “N” word at or describing Mixon whenever Mixon showed up at the table.

So the girl who was high as hell, who was blowing smoke in the direction of several football players, who then blew smoke directly in Mixon's face even after he moved away from the first smoke, the girl who doesn't even remember what happened, with her high as hell friends were innocent in all of this. Nevermind that she slapped him, and threw the first punch. GTFOH

• Paris Townsend, a former OU softball player, told Mixon’s attorneys that Molitor was quoted in the bathroom as saying, “Do not call the police, I do not want the police involved, I do not want to look stupid.” Molitor is also quoted as saying that she does not remember anything that happened.

Will you listen to yourself? Blowing smoke, her friend calling him a racial slur, her slapping him (Mixon said she hit him really hard and it felt like a dude hit him LOL that was a slap and a weak one), she was drunk or high, etc. None of it justifies his deadly actions during and cold careless actions after the incident.

[fried cheese]

He followed them in so he could walk away? Come on. She pushed him, he lunged and fainted at her, she slapped him, he knocked her out. Yes, if she were a male it would have been justified. But if she were a male she would have been capable of doing to him what he did to her. There were a hundred different ways he could have avoided or subdued her without doing that.

you can watch the video. he turned away from them and started to move to the exit when she yelled something at him he turned back and she shoved him. her friend was male and he would have been just as helpless as her vs him. why is he the one who has to be responsible but not her?

[fried cheese]

Will you listen to yourself? Blowing smoke, her friend calling him a racial slur, her slapping him (Mixon said she hit him really hard and it felt like a dude hit him LOL that was a slap and a weak one), she was drunk or high, etc. None of it justifies his deadly actions during and cold careless actions after the incident.

deadly actions? lol. if they blew smoke in his face, called him a N, and then slapped him that certainly justifies a punch.

[Mac4Lyfe]

He followed them in so he could walk away? Come on. She pushed him, he lunged and fainted at her, she slapped him, he knocked her out. Yes, if she were a male it would have been justified. But if she were a male she would have been capable of doing to him what he did to her. There were a hundred different ways he could have avoided or subdued her without doing that.

What does it matter what gender, race, religion, ethnicity, etc.??? We live in an equal opportunity country. Have you ever heard of self defense? Gender does not matter. It is forbidden by law. You saying that he would have been justified if she was a drunk male just destroyed your case. You have no idea what she is capable of doing. She could have been holding razor blades in her hands. She attacked him first. I don't think it was the punch that caused her injuries, it looks like she hit her head on the table. Stop looking at gender. Drunk man, drunk woman, you act stupid and try to get in a fight, you most likely will get hurt, man or woman. This double standard crap has to stop.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Will you listen to yourself? Blowing smoke, her friend calling him a racial slur, her slapping him (Mixon said she hit him really hard and it felt like a dude hit him LOL that was a slap and a weak one), she was drunk or high, etc. None of it justifies his deadly actions during and cold careless actions after the incident.

Let's just hope you are never faced with a similar situation. I already told you about a Shemale confronting me over some bullshit a few months ago. That was the first time I've been confronted in decades. There's a lot of stupid people in the world, let's just hope you don't meet up with them. Who knows how you would react in similar circumstances. Me personally, I'm not waiting for someone to show me their intentions. If I feel threatened, I am going to protect myself. I am always packing and I never assume a man, woman or teen does not pose a threat.

[dlowilly]

Let's just hope you are never faced with a similar situation. I already told you about a Shemale confronting me over some bullshit a few months ago. That was the first time I've been confronted in decades. There's a lot of stupid people in the world, let's just hope you don't meet up with them. Who knows how you would react in similar circumstances. Me personally, I'm not waiting for someone to show me their intentions. If I feel threatened, I am going to protect myself. I am always packing and I never assume a man, woman or teen does not pose a threat.

I have been in similar situations. I grab their wrists, block, dodge, or walk away. You keep trying to come up with crazy hypothetical situations. Fuking razorblades in her hands, ok, whatever. Look at her weak drunken slap, and then look at his MMA fatality right hook. And you want to say she could have had razorblades in her hands. Give me a break.