Unemployment Could Hit 95% Thanks to AI

[maggiethebestdog]

Its already happening, grocery stores will soon only need one person running them. Everything else will be automated, trucks that deliver goods will be driverless, they will unload goods on a dock that are distributed to the shelves by AI robots.

We think its cool that there is no longer a check out line but millions will be without work.

It will hit the lowest educated the hardest, so i wouldn't be laughing if I were you Frosty

Lower the dosage on the pills before you are institutionalized. You don't have long.

[The Kraken]

Lower the dosage on the pills before you are institutionalized. You don't have long.

Cognitive dissonance

Do you have anything of value to add? Or just insults

[Russian Rocket]

Kraken can you imagine, if in 10 years your 'local' is going to be a fukking ROBOT?!

[Cuse0323]

Cognitive dissonance

Do you have anything of value to add? Or just insults

I know we have our differences, but I respect you, Kraken. Just wanted to say that.

[19th Hole]

Get back to your feminist persona....

Your prepper masquerade is so passe, so 1990's.

[The Kraken]

I know we have our differences, but I respect you, Kraken. Just wanted to say that.

Thx Cuse, and vice versa.

I always try to remember when we have our differences that I respect you and your opinion and that we have plenty of common ground to meet on.

[The Kraken]

Get back to your feminist persona....

Your prepper masquerade is so passe, so 1990's.

So prepping isn't important anymore???

It was just a y2k thang I guess

But I sleep better at night knowing we're in a position to not only survive but to thrive under any circumstances

If you cant say the same, you too better learn how to suck dikk. My wife says learn how to open your throat

[eidolon]

The unemployment rate wont change because another president will just extend aid to dumbasses, and take them out of the working force.

[vividjohn45]

Only to the weak

Republicans tend to be weak-willed individuals. Thats why they need a strong leader, just sheep

To those that voted Trump, he is just as much a Daddy figure to them as he is a leader

Suk my AI Daddy kracker.

[sportsfan9698]

Very timely post Kraken... I just received an email from my father with the following excerpt

How fast the world changes!!!

In1998,Kodak had 170,000 employees and sold 85% of all photo paper worldwide. Within just a few years, their business model disappeared and they went bankrupt.


What happened to Kodak will happen in a lot of industries in the next 10 years - and most people won't see it coming. Did you think in 1998 that 3 years later you would never take pictures on film again?



Yet digital cameras were invented in 1975. The first ones only had 10,000 pixels, but followed Moore's law. So as with all exponential technologies, it was a dis-appointment for a long time, before it became way superior and got mainstream in only a few short years. It will now happen with Artificial Intelligence, health, autonomous and electric cars, education, 3D printing, agriculture and jobs.



Welcome to the 4th Industrial Revolution. Welcome to the Exponential Age.



Software will disrupt most traditional industries in the next 5-10 years. Uber is just a software tool, they don't own any cars, and are now the biggest taxi company in the world.



Airbnb is now the biggest hotel company in the world, although they don't own any properties.



Artificial Intelligence: Computers become exponentially better in understanding the world. This year, a computer beat the best Go player in the world, 10 years earlier than expected.



In the US, young lawyers already don't get jobs. Because of IBM Watson, you can get legal advice (so far for more or less basic stuff) within seconds, with 90% accuracy compared with 70% accuracy when done by humans. So if you study law, stop immediately. There will be 90% less lawyers in the future, only specialists will remain.



Watson already helps nurses diagnosing cancer, 4 times more accurate than human nurses.



Facebook now has a pattern recognition software that can recognize faces better than humans. In 2030, computers will become more intelligent than humans.



Autonomous cars: In 2018 the first self-driving cars will appear for the public. Around 2020, the complete industry will start to be disrupted. You don't want to own a car anymore. You will call a car with your phone, it will show up at your location and drive you to your destination. You will not need to park it, you only pay for the driven distance and can be productive while driving. Our kids will never get a driver's license and will never own a car.



It will change the cities, because we will need 90-95% less cars for that. We can transform former parking spaces into parks. 1.2 million people die each year in car accidents worldwide. We now have one accident every 60,000 mi (100,000 km), with autonomous driving that will drop to one accident in 6 million mi (10 million km). That will save a million lives each year.



Most car companies will probably become bankrupt. Traditional car companies try the evolutionary approach and just build a better car, while tech companies (Tesla, Apple, Google) will do the revolutionary approach and build a computer on wheels. Many engineers from Volkswagen and Audi are completely terrified of Tesla.



Insurance companies will have massive trouble because without accidents, the insurance will become 100x cheaper. Their car insurance business model will disappear.



Real estate will change. Because if you can work while you commute, people will move further away to live in a more beautiful neighborhood.



Electric cars will become mainstream about 2020. Cities will be less noisy because all new cars will run on electricity. Electricity will become incredibly cheap and clean: Solar production has been on an exponential curve for 30 years, but you can now see the burgeoning impact.



Last year, more solar energy was installed worldwide than fossil. Energy companies are desperately trying to limit access to the grid to prevent competition from home solar installations, but that can't last. Technology will take care of that strategy.



With cheap electricity comes cheap and abundant water. Desalination of salt water now only needs 2kWh per cubic meter (@ 0.25 cents). We don't have scarce water in most places, we only have scarce drinking water. Imagine what will be possible if anyone can have as much clean water as he wants, for nearly no cost.



Health: The Tricorder X price will be announced this year. There are companies who will build a medical device (called the "Tricorder" from Star Trek) that works with your phone, which takes your retina scan, your blood sample and you breath into it. It then analyses 54 biomarkers that will identify nearly any disease. It will be cheap, so in a few years everyone on this planet will have access to world class medical analysis, nearly forfree. Goodbye, medical establishment.



3D printing: The price of the cheapest 3D printer came down from $18,000 to $400 within 10 years. In the same time, it became 100 times faster. All major shoe companies have already started 3D printing shoes. Some spare airplane parts are already 3D printed in remote airports. The space station now has a printer that eliminates the need for the large amount of spare parts they used to have in the past.



At the end of this year, new smart phones will have 3D scanning possibilities. You can then 3D scan your feet and print your perfect shoe at home. In China, they already 3D printed and built a complete 6-storey office building. By 2027, 10% of everything that's being produced will be 3D printed.



Business opportunities: If you think of a niche you want to go in, ask yourself: "in the future, do you think we will have that?" and if the answer is yes, how can you make that happen sooner?



If it doesn't work with your phone, forget the idea. And any idea designed for success in the 20th century is doomed to failure in the 21st century.



Work: 70-80% of jobs will disappear in the next 20 years. There will be a lot of new jobs, but it is not clear if there will be enough new jobs in such a small time.



Agriculture: There will be a $100 agricultural robot in the future. Farmers in 3rd world countries can then become managers of their field instead of working all day on their fields.

Aeroponics will need much less water. The first Petri dish produced veal is now available and will be cheaper than cow produced veal in 2018. Right now, 30% of all agricultural surfaces is used for cows. Imagine if we don't need that space anymore.



There are several startups who will bring insect protein to the market shortly. It contains more protein than meat. It will be labeled as "alternative protein source" (because most people still reject the idea of eating insects).



There is an app called "moodies" which can already tell in which mood you’re in. By 2020 there will be apps that can tell by your facial expressions if you are lying. Imagine a political debate where it's being displayed when they’re telling the truth and when they’re not.



Bitcoin may even become the default reserve currency. Of the world.



Longevity: Right now, the average life span increases by 3 months per year. Four years ago, the life span used to be 79 years, now it's 80 years. The increase itself is increasing and by 2036, there will be more than one year increase per year. So we all might live for a long, long time, probably way more than 100.



Education: The cheapest smart phones are already at $10 in Africa and Asia. By 2020, 70% of all humans will own a smart phone. That means, everyone has the same access to world class education. Every child can use Khan academy for everything a child learns at school in First World countries.



We have already released our software in Indonesia and will release it in Arabic, Swahili and Chinese this Summer, because I see an enormous potential. We will give the English app for free, so that children in Africa can become fluent in English within half a year.



Boom! TO MAKE ALL THIS HAPPEN SOONER-I'D PROPOSE TO SHORTEN THE WORK-WEEK AND INVEST IN (THEREBY CREATE) LOTS OF JOBS (MOSTLY IN THE U.S.) IN THE "LEISURE INDUSTRIES!" GIS.

[Cuse0323]

Thx Cuse, and vice versa.

I always try to remember when we have our differences that I respect you and your opinion and that we have plenty of common ground to meet on.

Absolutely. We all have our opinions. Who knows who is right. Well, we all think we are. It's always nice to at least be civil, which I haven't completely been. So, just wanted to say that.

Brother, have a good holiday season.

[The Kraken]

Very timely post Kraken... I just received an email from my father with the following excerpt

How fast the world changes!!!

In1998,Kodak had 170,000 employees and sold 85% of all photo paper worldwide. Within just a few years, their business model disappeared and they went bankrupt.


What happened to Kodak will happen in a lot of industries in the next 10 years - and most people won't see it coming. Did you think in 1998 that 3 years later you would never take pictures on film again?



Yet digital cameras were invented in 1975. The first ones only had 10,000 pixels, but followed Moore's law. So as with all exponential technologies, it was a dis-appointment for a long time, before it became way superior and got mainstream in only a few short years. It will now happen with Artificial Intelligence, health, autonomous and electric cars, education, 3D printing, agriculture and jobs.



Welcome to the 4th Industrial Revolution. Welcome to the Exponential Age.



Software will disrupt most traditional industries in the next 5-10 years. Uber is just a software tool, they don't own any cars, and are now the biggest taxi company in the world.



Airbnb is now the biggest hotel company in the world, although they don't own any properties.



Artificial Intelligence: Computers become exponentially better in understanding the world. This year, a computer beat the best Go player in the world, 10 years earlier than expected.



In the US, young lawyers already don't get jobs. Because of IBM Watson, you can get legal advice (so far for more or less basic stuff) within seconds, with 90% accuracy compared with 70% accuracy when done by humans. So if you study law, stop immediately. There will be 90% less lawyers in the future, only specialists will remain.



Watson already helps nurses diagnosing cancer, 4 times more accurate than human nurses.



Facebook now has a pattern recognition software that can recognize faces better than humans. In 2030, computers will become more intelligent than humans.



Autonomous cars: In 2018 the first self-driving cars will appear for the public. Around 2020, the complete industry will start to be disrupted. You don't want to own a car anymore. You will call a car with your phone, it will show up at your location and drive you to your destination. You will not need to park it, you only pay for the driven distance and can be productive while driving. Our kids will never get a driver's license and will never own a car.



It will change the cities, because we will need 90-95% less cars for that. We can transform former parking spaces into parks. 1.2 million people die each year in car accidents worldwide. We now have one accident every 60,000 mi (100,000 km), with autonomous driving that will drop to one accident in 6 million mi (10 million km). That will save a million lives each year.



Most car companies will probably become bankrupt. Traditional car companies try the evolutionary approach and just build a better car, while tech companies (Tesla, Apple, Google) will do the revolutionary approach and build a computer on wheels. Many engineers from Volkswagen and Audi are completely terrified of Tesla.



Insurance companies will have massive trouble because without accidents, the insurance will become 100x cheaper. Their car insurance business model will disappear.



Real estate will change. Because if you can work while you commute, people will move further away to live in a more beautiful neighborhood.



Electric cars will become mainstream about 2020. Cities will be less noisy because all new cars will run on electricity. Electricity will become incredibly cheap and clean: Solar production has been on an exponential curve for 30 years, but you can now see the burgeoning impact.



Last year, more solar energy was installed worldwide than fossil. Energy companies are desperately trying to limit access to the grid to prevent competition from home solar installations, but that can't last. Technology will take care of that strategy.



With cheap electricity comes cheap and abundant water. Desalination of salt water now only needs 2kWh per cubic meter (@ 0.25 cents). We don't have scarce water in most places, we only have scarce drinking water. Imagine what will be possible if anyone can have as much clean water as he wants, for nearly no cost.



Health: The Tricorder X price will be announced this year. There are companies who will build a medical device (called the "Tricorder" from Star Trek) that works with your phone, which takes your retina scan, your blood sample and you breath into it. It then analyses 54 biomarkers that will identify nearly any disease. It will be cheap, so in a few years everyone on this planet will have access to world class medical analysis, nearly forfree. Goodbye, medical establishment.



3D printing: The price of the cheapest 3D printer came down from $18,000 to $400 within 10 years. In the same time, it became 100 times faster. All major shoe companies have already started 3D printing shoes. Some spare airplane parts are already 3D printed in remote airports. The space station now has a printer that eliminates the need for the large amount of spare parts they used to have in the past.



At the end of this year, new smart phones will have 3D scanning possibilities. You can then 3D scan your feet and print your perfect shoe at home. In China, they already 3D printed and built a complete 6-storey office building. By 2027, 10% of everything that's being produced will be 3D printed.



Business opportunities: If you think of a niche you want to go in, ask yourself: "in the future, do you think we will have that?" and if the answer is yes, how can you make that happen sooner?



If it doesn't work with your phone, forget the idea. And any idea designed for success in the 20th century is doomed to failure in the 21st century.



Work: 70-80% of jobs will disappear in the next 20 years. There will be a lot of new jobs, but it is not clear if there will be enough new jobs in such a small time.



Agriculture: There will be a $100 agricultural robot in the future. Farmers in 3rd world countries can then become managers of their field instead of working all day on their fields.

Aeroponics will need much less water. The first Petri dish produced veal is now available and will be cheaper than cow produced veal in 2018. Right now, 30% of all agricultural surfaces is used for cows. Imagine if we don't need that space anymore.



There are several startups who will bring insect protein to the market shortly. It contains more protein than meat. It will be labeled as "alternative protein source" (because most people still reject the idea of eating insects).



There is an app called "moodies" which can already tell in which mood you’re in. By 2020 there will be apps that can tell by your facial expressions if you are lying. Imagine a political debate where it's being displayed when they’re telling the truth and when they’re not.



Bitcoin may even become the default reserve currency. Of the world.



Longevity: Right now, the average life span increases by 3 months per year. Four years ago, the life span used to be 79 years, now it's 80 years. The increase itself is increasing and by 2036, there will be more than one year increase per year. So we all might live for a long, long time, probably way more than 100.



Education: The cheapest smart phones are already at $10 in Africa and Asia. By 2020, 70% of all humans will own a smart phone. That means, everyone has the same access to world class education. Every child can use Khan academy for everything a child learns at school in First World countries.



We have already released our software in Indonesia and will release it in Arabic, Swahili and Chinese this Summer, because I see an enormous potential. We will give the English app for free, so that children in Africa can become fluent in English within half a year.



Boom! TO MAKE ALL THIS HAPPEN SOONER-I'D PROPOSE TO SHORTEN THE WORK-WEEK AND INVEST IN (THEREBY CREATE) LOTS OF JOBS (MOSTLY IN THE U.S.) IN THE "LEISURE INDUSTRIES!" GIS.

Boom!



Fathers are smart men

[The Kraken]

Kraken can you imagine, if in 10 years your 'local' is going to be a fukking ROBOT?!

You always blow my mind

The day I quit betting is when I show up to the local whore house and a robot is trying to book my weekly action

[sportsfan9698]

Actually my father is not so smart... but he is a good guy. He just C&P things and emails everybody he is one of those.

Back to the subject, AI is a serious subject. I have doubted and continue to doubt some of the predictions, but some are beyond doubt.

[King Mayan]

Inbred pussies will blame someone for this... except themselves

[brooks85]

Possibilities are endless with AI

No sector will be unaffected

The scary part is people in the know, folks at NVIDIA say that it won't take much for AI to become self-sufficient and not require any human interaction to maintain itself and advance it's own usefulness

Listen closely

Buy Land, preferably with 50-100' of waterfront access on a river
Dig a Well
Learn to farm
Research sustainability

Its your only chance

hilarious coming from the guy detailed in this bit at the end

[sportsfan9698]

Makes me think we all better become very good cappers very soon. I'm not so sure that computers will ever be able to do what a good capper does effectively.

[afgballer56]

kraken only question i have is how will these businesses sustain profits if most of the popullation is unemployed. there is no need for businesses an AI if there is no market for them to sell to and if people dont have jobs because of AI, there should be no money in the economy

[sportsfan9698]

kraken only question i have is how will these businesses sustain profits if most of the popullation is unemployed. there is no need for businesses an AI if there is no market for them to sell to and if people dont have jobs because of AI, there should be no money in the economy

This is a wise man... there is a natural curb to innovation and that curb is the business need for such innovation.

[DwightShrute]

[The Kraken]

Actually my father is not so smart... but he is a good guy. He just C&P things and emails everybody he is one of those.

Back to the subject, AI is a serious subject. I have doubted and continue to doubt some of the predictions, but some are beyond doubt.

He may not be "smart" but Im sure he has wisdom.

The main point is AI is going to alter the course of humanity. To what extent, there is no way of knowing exactly. Even the most modest predictions I've read are disconcerting. Just like 30 years ago, not even steve jobs could have accurately predicted the iphone 7 revolutionizing the way in which we live our lives. Nor can anyone predict where AI will take us.

The best plan is to simply get as much pussy as you can between now and the day you die.

[KnockEmDown]

So prepping isn't important anymore???

It was just a y2k thang I guess

But I sleep better at night knowing we're in a position to not only survive but to thrive under any circumstances

If you cant say the same, you too better learn how to suck dikk. My wife says learn how to open your throat

Good news (or not depending on your situation) That's already animated too...fukk'n cyborgs (hahaha)

[The Kraken]

This is a wise man... there is a natural curb to innovation and that curb is the business need for such innovation.

This is a big problem. Sure, it would be a natural stop to innovation but it wouldn't be immediate and the real damage wouldn't be that technology was halted or businesses couldn't expand, it would be that to get to that pint a massive amount of people would already be unemployed and struggling to survive. Feedback in the market isn't all that quick nor is the response.

A lot of suffering would have already taken place by the time businesses realized no one was left to buy their product

[sportsfan9698]

^^^ Who needs technology like that when my left hand does it perfectly... this has existed since the dawn of time.

[The Kraken]

Good news (or not depending on your situation) That's already animated too...fukk'n cyborgs (hahaha)

Would you believe the giant already owns one, but still prefers the old fashioned way

[sportsfan9698]

This is a big problem. Sure, it would be a natural stop to innovation but it wouldn't be immediate and the real damage wouldn't be that technology was halted or businesses couldn't expand, it would be that to get to that pint a massive amount of people would already be unemployed and struggling to survive. Feedback in the market isn't all that quick nor is the response.

A lot of suffering would have already taken place by the time businesses realized no one was left to buy their product

Like every other prediction I have ever witnessed to fall short, most of this will as well. The so called "progress" will be much slower than predicted, with far less impact.

When I was a kid we were all promised a jet pack eliminating planes trains and automobiles. I'm still waiting

[The Kraken]

I'd trade every property I own for a functional and practical jet pack that runs on unleaded and has a rechargable battery for boost power

[Ralphie Halves]

I'm just gonna save a bunch of money now, buy a prepper bunker, and enjoy all the VR porn that's gonna be out there by then. You have any idea how amazing that shit's gonna be? Yeah, go cry about cars and stuff, whatever, I'll be not caring down in my bunker.

[ByeShea]

Isn't that the truth. That is why they love Reagan. Bunch of draft dodgers pounding their chest like they are now tough and u throw in Fox News scaring the living daylights out of these nitwits daily, sure enuf u get a guy that is a daddy figure to them running the country. I think pretty much Trump will eventually figure out what despicable people Mcconnel and Ryan are and eventually throw them under the bus. It will take some time but eventually these two scumbags will be caught on tape undermining Trump which will make Trump livid and get rid of these cancers.

That's enuf out of u.

[sportsfan9698]

To be correct, Detroit auto workers were victims to automation first. Now cashiers.

Wonder whose next

Theoretically, I could envision a medical clinic without a doctor or nurse, just a machine to measure your vitals and a fingerstick prick to get just enough blood to run a bunch of labs, an algorithm asks you qurstionsand Id be willing to bet, the computer could be programmed where it has a correct diagnosis rate of >90%, amd treatment choice would be 100% because there would be no errors, or they would be extrememly rare.

Kraken you are hitting the crack pipe again... I grew up in Michigan during the 70's and 80's. Automation had NOTHING to do with the downfall of the auto industry. The unions made it impossible for the automakers to profit. Only since the UAW has started to make some concessions it has allowed GM Ford and Chrysler to earn a bit of profit. Labor unions are cancers to industry.

[astro61200]

Once this happens, will SBR poker finally be able to stop reseating me directly into the big blind?

[USCPHILLYGUY]

I thought Kraken was blaming Allen Iverson

[sportsfan9698]

I thought Kraken was blaming Allen Iverson

I wonder what AI is up to these days... It takes a special tool to be broke a couple years after earning $100MM

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

1. According to ol Stephen A (take it for what one thinks it's worth, many hate on Stephen A, I happen to think he's good w/info)... well, according to SAS, as bad as Iverson has been with his MM (and he has been), supposedly he has some annuities kicking in soon which will provide him plenty of $ going forward.

2. What the Chicken Littles never realize is if things ever get as catastrophic as they're always EMO'ing about (they won't), then things like having a piece of paper saying you own this particular piece of land will... *wait for it*... MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!... as the hordes of desperate-looking-for-food-and-resources people will overwhelm them, regardless of how many weapons they have, thinking they can protect that land/resources.

3. Drive around America; a zillion potholes/infrastructure problems and other similar problems, BUT... AI is gonna take over the world in the near future. MWAHAHAHA!!!! It all takes lots of dinero to implement, and while AI is the def future... there's no need to curl up in the fetal position about it quite yet, thinking all the jobs will be disappearing. This is a natural evolution of things that's been going on forever in mankind's existence -- and mankind will adapt and adjust just as it always has. Things *always* change. Evolve w/it or be left behind... no whining needed/allowed.

4. Agree w/sportsfan; unions gut-punched Detroit, not machines.

5. I like Ralphie's style... and NO, astro, you being sat repeatedly in the BB will *not change* -- that's just how things are supposed to work for you... software working A+ (thanks Lou!)

[sportsfan9698]

Thank you DOJ for backing me up on the union thing... of course libs will never admit unions do a tremendous amount of harm to our economy.

As for SHTF scenarios... yes some larger caliber high powered rifles might be of good use for protection, but for hunting they will be useless. IF and when shtf happens, all of the larger game will be gone quicker than you can say boom! A finely tuned 32 cal rifle is all you will need for hunting because small game is all that will be left. Rabbits squirrels YUM