Opie, the Romo speech was inspiritational

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Hey, Bite, f u. Cancel the Turning Stone trip.

Yeah, Romo has had a better career than Eli.

If u wanna push Eli on me, I guess u have to build a statue for David Diehl and Chris Snee, too.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Hey, Bite, f u. Cancel the Turning Stone trip.

Meh, your loss.
Who knew you were more temperamental than a teen girl with acne having a Carrie moment with her 1st period?
YOU GO, GIRL!!! You'll show me you will, dammit... yeah... right on! How will I ever survive your casino diss?

Yeah, Romo has had a better career than Eli.

...good one. Hopefully you're just fooling 'round here... cuz no one, and i mean, NO ONE that actually knows football would agree with that statement. It's pro football, pal. It's all about the rings. Hall of Fame career vs. Mr. 2-4. As Dr. Evil would surely say here to your statement: "Riiiiiiiight"

(Eli beat Romo in Dallas when Romo had better team in '08 playoffs. Jerry put tickets in player's lockers, that's how confident he was. OOPS. Eli beat Romo for division marbles Jan.1,2012... game I took my 2 teenage nieces to. Can still see Victor running right toward us and our end zone seats in my mind's eye... good times! But hey, Romo lost the following year, too, to RG III in same winner-take-all division spot, so least he likes to spread his disappointments around.)

If u wanna push Eli on me, I guess u have to build a statue for David Diehl and Chris Snee, too.

... you're the guy that introduced Eli into the conversation, not I.
I just subsequently schooled you to the facts, is all.

All said and done, Eli would have played with 0 HOF offensive linemen. Romo will have played with more than 1 HOF offensive linemen. Dems some more facts.

C... I suggest you just channel ol T.O. when someone is schooling you on your boy and things are getting a lil ruff -- just close your eyes, take a deep breath, and gently start repeating: "But he's my quarterback". If ya end up crying a lil bit like ol T.O., it's OK... it's all good. No one will judge you here.

Bottom line, C... regarding Romo:

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Weak. You're wrong, Romo > Eli.

[opie1988]

The argument that QBs are judged strictly on Super Bowls is for retards who don't understand the game. This isn't golf or tennis. It's football. It's the consummate team sport.

So is Eli a better QB than Dan Marino was? Was Trent Dilfer better than Marino?? Get real.

Romo is a great QB. Eli is a quality QB as well. But Romo is clearly the more athletic QB of the 2. There's no question. If you don't see that, you're simply a fukkin idiot. Period.

[Chi_archie]

choker

78-49 regular season record

2-4 playoffs



decent dude though

[stealthyburrito]

Lol at Romo being more athletic than Eli. Who gives a Fukk, so he makes a few more top 10s on sports center cuz he can scramble well. That ability was a huge part in them making a deep playoff ru......what, that's never happened.

Eli was an integral part of his championship teams. He wasn't a liability and he was clutch when it was needed. Romo has proven himself a hinderance to a team's postseason chance more often than not. He has nice numbers which is cool, big numbers are nice and glossy looking. It also occurred in a pass happy NFL era where 4K yards is considered ok. Romo will be known as a good QB but not even close to the elites.

[opie1988]

Lol at Romo being more athletic than Eli. Who gives a Fukk, so he makes a few more top 10s on sports center cuz he can scramble well. That ability was a huge part in them making a deep playoff ru......what, that's never happened.

Eli was an integral part of his championship teams. He wasn't a liability and he was clutch when it was needed. Romo has proven himself a hinderance to a team's postseason chance more often than not. He has nice numbers which is cool, big numbers are nice and glossy looking. It also occurred in a pass happy NFL era where 4K yards is considered ok. Romo will be known as a good QB but not even close to the elites.

No need to regurgitate the same tired argument. This is a point of contention that is impossible for either side to argue successfully. Now go find a safe space and lie down.

Stealthy trying to act like he knows things about sports

[ChuckyTheGoat]

Opie, remember that we will meet up one day at a Packer-Cowboy game:

* A JerryDome trip is on my to-do list. Maybe it happens next year.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

Chucky quit kissing opies ass....good god

[opie1988]

Opie, remember that we will meet up one day at a Packer-Cowboy game:

* A JerryDome trip is on my to-do list. Maybe it happens next year.

I'm ready, brother.

Jerry World a sight to see, no question.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

I'm ready, brother.

Jerry World a sight to see, no question.

Opie shouldn't you be getting ready for your Univ of Texas Board of Regents Meeting and the possible firing of the Head Football Coach

[opie1988]

Opie shouldn't you be getting ready for your Univ of Texas Board of Regents Meeting and the possible firing of the Head Football Coach

We had prelim discussions last night via conference call. Not at liberty to share much at this point, but let's just say no big surprises ahead.

Brighter days ahead very soon though. #TEXASFIGHT

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Well, this was obviously directed my way, so...

The argument that QBs are judged strictly on Super Bowls is for retards who don't understand the game.

Actually, the retards are the ones that can't read & comprehend correctly, then make statements that have nothing to do with what's being discussed. Uh, FYI, nobody in this thread has made the argument that you're trying to assert above; in fact, when this discussion first started in earnest, I purposely made a 'preemptive strike statement' (post #34) in the hopes it would ward off the retard(s) that would, predictably, come along and say "is Dilfer better than Marino?... is Rypien better than Fouts?" blah retard blah. *sigh* But alas, indeed, no good deed goes unpunished. Retards gotta retard.

The following (written from jumpstreet in post #34) is pretty self explanatory:
"Unless you have Marino-type talent, top NFL QB's are measured/separated by playoffs/championships (and Romo sure ain't no Marino... or Fouts, etc.)"

For those able to read & comprehend correctly, they understand what this precisely meant: It means when discussing TOP NFL QB's (a group that doesn't include Dilfer, btw), it is stipulated that they all fall into the (1) GOOD,(2) VERY GOOD or (3) GREAT categories. So, what separates those top guys -- of which, both Eli & Romo belong, somewhere between 1 & 2, neither are category 3 -- from each other when having discussions on people's QB rankings lists, sports talk radio, etc.?

Well... what separates all these good/great players (uh, still not Dilfer, he's not in the discussion, just FYI) in people's minds is exactly what I previously stated: i.e., playoff/championship accomplishments. Don't believe me? Well, try to follow along w/this: Marino doesn't take a back seat to any QB that's ever played in terms of sheer talent, BUT, in any discussion (ever) of compiled lists (be they SI, NFL Network, etc.) no one ever ranks Marino ahead of Montana, Brady, Elway, etc.. WHY?... duh, it's the playoff successes/Super Bowls. That's why! No different than other team sports and why LeBron will never pass MJ and his 6 for 6. Marino is still revered and ranked high b/c his abundant talent can't be ignored despite no championships (also stipulated with what I wrote previously in post #34, for those comprehending).

Now... I didn't realize that some needed me to continue to repeat (well. actually, probably just one person) what I'd previously said from jumpstreet when subsequently telling Chucky it's all about the rings in pro football when specifically talking about Eli and Romo. C was trying to make the argument Romo's career is better b/c of nobody-cares-about stats like yards/per catch and INT ratio. LOLZ. Those stats mean nothing when discussing the top echelon OB's. Hell, Favre threw a million interceptions, Numero uno all-time... he's still a GREAT. Tarkenton, Unitas, Elway are all top ten career in interceptions. None of that matters -- What actually matters is the WINNING. And just like jj's johnson, Romo falls short by comparative measurement.

This isn't golf or tennis. It's football. It's the consummate team sport.

Ah yes, thanks for that enlightenment, Captain Obvious. I do seem to recall my Pop Warner coaches telling our team that a time or two (for real). Football 101... TY for the reminder. I even think my HS coaches worked in some variant of that gem, as well.

BUT, the thing that you're glaringly missing (and Stealthy so perfectly stated above), is that, more times than not in his career, Romo has been a major reason why his team has fallen short. He's oft times been a hindrance in the biggest of spots, not an asset. There's an actual reason why he's viewed as a good QB but also an underachiever (choker?). That perception (held by many) didn't just materialize out of nowhere -- He's earned it. And just cuz Romo fanboys don't want to hold him accountable, it doesn't mean others that aren't emotionally attached won't/don't.

So is Eli a better QB than Dan Marino was? Was Trent Dilfer better than Marino?? Get real.

Silly, nonsensical stuff. As explained above, not germane to the discussion that was actually taking place. You're engaging in a form of rhetorical self masturbation regarding a phantom argument that no one was having or considering (NTTAWWT... we don't judge here.. fap away).
.

Romo is a great QB. Eli is a quality QB as well. But Romo is clearly the more athletic QB of the 2. There's no question. If you don't see that, you're simply a fukkin idiot. Period.

Romo is not a great QB... he's a good QB. Great QB's don't back up a rookie when they're ready to play -- sorry to break that news to ya. Elway, Montana, Brady (some others) were/are great. Fanboys are so delusional. And again, you're engaging in an argument no one is having: everyone will stipulate Romo is more athletic overall than Eli... and as Stealthy notes: WTF does that have to do w/anything in defining a better quarterback? Romo's also more athletic than Montana was... DUH.


So OK... we have a coupla Romo nuthuggers obviously getting triggerred in a simple sports discussion where their boy receives some criticism. Got a guy telling me FU and canceling a casino trip and another guy throwing out "retards" & "fukkin idiot" all because of a differing sports opinion. Ah yeah, these guys aren't wrapped too tight. Nawwww.........

choker

78-49 regular season record

2-4 playoffs



decent dude though

archie > opie & chucky

[opie1988]

Bite....you can write all the fukkin soliloquies you want (or OVER write for fukks sakes. Jesus. Get over yourself already)....but the simple fact is football is a team sport. If you're too stupid to grasp that concept, then no amount of paragraphs can help you.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Bite....you can write all the fukkin soliloquies you want (or OVER write for fukks sakes. Jesus. Get over yourself already)....but the simple fact is football is a team sport. If you're too stupid to grasp that concept, then no amount of paragraphs can help you.

I understand that football is a team sport just fine. That fact was never in question.
Nice deflection... not.

What my above post shows/proves is that you were lost with what I was actually saying... from jumpstreet.

If you read & comprehended correctly what was actually being said, you never post your gibberish and I never respond with (obviously needed) clarification. See how that works? Not my fault that I have to flesh things out so you can finally (hopefully) understand them.

BTW, I'm sorry I triggered you... but I've watched Romo over the years so no real surprise how the horrific memories could come flooding back.

[opie1988]

"jumpstreet" "triggered"

LOL

[Mr KLC]

Tony Romo’s future in Dallas is uncertain. Given the emergence of Dak Prescott as the quarterback of the future, and the team’s overwhelming success with him under center, Romo may not have a place on the roster in 2017.

There are a handful of scenarios that could play out in the future. He could take a pay cut and remain in Dallas next season, he could retire, or he could be traded. Should the Cowboys opt to move Romo in a blockbuster deal, there’s reportedly one team in particular he’d target: the Broncos.

According to NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport, Romo is eyeing the Broncos as a potential landing spot if a trade were to happen. Obviously, we’re months from a possible deal, but that fit could make sense. Peyton Manning rode off into the sunset in Denver with a Super Bowl win, and Romo could do the same.

Of course, that hinges on how John Elway views Paxton Lynch and whether he’s ready to be the starter next season. If Elway believes Lynch needs another year to learn, Romo could be a one-year placeholder – and a darn good one, too.

Romo will have other options, too, as there will be several teams looking for a quarterback in the offseason. According to Rapoport, though, Romo will have a big say in where he’s dealt, essentially giving him the power to veto any trade (sorry, Cleveland).

http://nypost.com/2016/11/20/tony-romo-already-has-his-next-team-in-mind/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

"jumpstreet" "triggered"

LOL

"ROMO" "8ft B-ball rims"

LOLZ

[That Dude]

BUT, the thing that you're glaringly missing (and Stealthy so perfectly stated above), is that, more times than not in his career, Romo has been a major reason why his team has fallen short. He's oft times been a hindrance in the biggest of spots, not an asset.

The fact that Romo has thrown 8 tds and only 2 interceptions to go along with a 93 QB rating in his playoff games would directly refute that he is a major reason the Cowboys have lost those games. Aside from a botched hold 10+ years ago I fail to see any proof of Romo being "a hindrance" in big spots. This silly notion that Romo is somehow terrible in big spots has spread like wildfire ever since that botched hold when it simply is not true.

[jtoler]

Why dont Tony just take off the rest of the season off. Him standing over Dak with the clipboard could cause the rookie to get a little anxious, a little nervous or something. Dont want Dak thinking too much out there and looking over his shoulder.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Tony Romo’s future in Dallas is uncertain. Given the emergence of Dak Prescott as the quarterback of the future, and the team’s overwhelming success with him under center, Romo may not have a place on the roster in 2017.

But... but... but... WHY??? He's a GREAT Quarterback

[KKoz9]

The fact that Romo has thrown 8 tds and only 2 interceptions to go along with a 93 QB rating in his playoff games would directly refute that he is a major reason the Cowboys have lost those games. Aside from a botched hold 10+ years ago I fail to see any proof of Romo being "a hindrance" in big spots. This silly notion that Romo is somehow terrible in big spots has spread like wildfire ever since that botched hold when it simply is not true.

Don't introduce facts and logic into the equation, some people's head may explode. And please don't mention that Romo led the league in QBR and passer rating last time he was healthy, yes above Brady, Rodgers, Mannings, Brees... all of 'em - people may be forced to admit that he is 'pretty good', not just 'above average'.

[Gonz312]

The fact that Romo has thrown 8 tds and only 2 interceptions to go along with a 93 QB rating in his playoff games would directly refute that he is a major reason the Cowboys have lost those games. Aside from a botched hold 10+ years ago I fail to see any proof of Romo being "a hindrance" in big spots. This silly notion that Romo is somehow terrible in big spots has spread like wildfire ever since that botched hold when it simply is not true.

One of those Ints was in the endzone of a potential game clinching drive so yeah, stats are meaningless there.

[KKoz9]

One of those Ints was in the endzone of a potential game clinching drive so yeah, stats are meaningless there.

Correct - that pick came with a 4th and goal from the 23 with 0:15 on the clock -- that's a gimme for anyone. Fukkin choker.

[tony_come]

Someone needs to tell Homo, no crying

[stealthyburrito]

No need to regurgitate the same tired argument. This is a point of contention that is impossible for either side to argue successfully. Now go find a safe space and lie down.

Stealthy trying to act like he knows things about sports

I'd love to see those emojis when I'm making you tap from a kimura lock in PC. How does it feel to know you're already my puta???

[DiggityDaggityDo]

REPORT: Tony Romo Breaks Collarbone Carrying Water To Dak Prescott On Sideline

http://dailysnark.com/report-tony-romo-breaks-collarbone-getting-water-dak-prescott/

[yankees10]

Romo can't even make a speech without getting hurt

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

REPORT: Young opie 1998 Breaks Wind & noggin while dunking on 4' rim; his dogs vow to do their Master one better




http://tinyurl.com/h4xsm3h

WOW... very interesting, Daggers.

[DiggityDaggityDo]

[GunShard]

[CanuckG]

Eli Manning top 3 clutch playoff qb.

Back to Romo, he will land somewhere else and play.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Yeah, in '08 playoff game vs. G-men, in my mind's eye can still see Romo air-mailing the ball 10 yards out of bounds going for Crayton, not even giving him a fukkin chance to make a play on the ball. Next play, INTERCEPTION... soon to be Super Bowl MVP Eli trots in for the kneel down.

(game play-by-play summary)

• Timeout #3 by DAL at 00:26.
• 2-11-NYG 23 (:26) (Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass incomplete short right to 82-J.Witten [72-O.Umenyiora]. Pass thrown sideline; incomplete at the New York 20.
• 3-11-NYG 23 (:21) (Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass incomplete deep right to 84-P.Crayton. Pass incomplete right corner of the end zone.
• 4-11-NYG 23 (:16) (Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass deep middle intended for 83-T.Glenn INTERCEPTED by 25-R.McQuarters at NYG -5. Touchback.
• New York Giants at 00:09
• 1-10-NYG 20 (:09) 10-E.Manning kneels to NYG 19 for -1 yards.
• END GAME

Jerry so confident he was headed to NFC Championship game (a game Romo has never played in, let alone a SB), he had placed tickets in players' lockers.(Tom Coughlin learned of this and notified his players pre-game).

But, but, WAIT... football's a team game! (no one knew that until informed of that fact earlier in thread by our esteemed posting colleague... thanks again!). Why did Jerry think he was going to NFC championship game? I mean, it's not like Dallas was the #1 seed with a gaudy 13-3 record and he and so many others viewed them as the best team that was going to be on the field that day(in Dallas, btw) OH WAIT.....

Among a number of reasons, one MAJOR reason why the game didn't go as Jerry had planned: the team from NY had a CHAMPION behind center, while Jerry had a guy behind center that wasn't quite ready for prime-time. NY QB orchestrated a critical drive for a TD when his team absolutely had to have it (the drive just before half to stabilize the game)... while when Jerry needed his guy to orchestrate a TD when absolutely needed, well.....



Maybe Romo thought the SI camera guy was Crayton?... after all, I think he mighta been wearing a white shirt.

[KKoz9]

Yeah, in '08 playoff game vs. G-men, in my mind's eye can still see Romo air-mailing the ball 10 yards out of bounds going for Crayton, not even giving him a fukkin chance to make a play on the ball. Next play, INTERCEPTION... soon to be Super Bowl MVP Eli trots in for the kneel down.

(game play-by-play summary)

• Timeout #3 by DAL at 00:26.
• 2-11-NYG 23 (:26) (Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass incomplete short right to 82-J.Witten [72-O.Umenyiora]. Pass thrown sideline; incomplete at the New York 20.
• 3-11-NYG 23 (:21) (Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass incomplete deep right to 84-P.Crayton. Pass incomplete right corner of the end zone.
• 4-11-NYG 23 (:16) (Shotgun) 9-T.Romo pass deep middle intended for 83-T.Glenn INTERCEPTED by 25-R.McQuarters at NYG -5. Touchback.
• New York Giants at 00:09
• 1-10-NYG 20 (:09) 10-E.Manning kneels to NYG 19 for -1 yards.
• END GAME

Jerry so confident he was headed to NFC Championship game (a game Romo has never played in, let alone a SB), he had placed tickets in players' lockers.(Tom Coughlin learned of this and notified his players pre-game).

But, but, WAIT... football's a team game! (no one knew that until informed of that fact earlier in thread by our esteemed posting colleague... thanks again!). Why did Jerry think he was going to NFC championship game? I mean, it's not like Dallas was the #1 seed with a gaudy 13-3 record and he and so many others viewed them as the best team that was going to be on the field that day(in Dallas, btw) OH WAIT.....

Among a number of reasons, one MAJOR reason why the game didn't go as Jerry had planned: the team from NY had a CHAMPION behind center, while Jerry had a guy behind center that wasn't quite ready for prime-time. NY QB orchestrated a critical drive for a TD when his team absolutely had to have it (the drive just before half to stabilize the game)... while when Jerry needed his guy to orchestrate a TD when absolutely needed, well.....



Maybe Romo thought the SI camera guy was Crayton?... after all, I think he mighta been wearing a white shirt.

Actually, Romo's pass couldn't have been any better - Crayton's punk a$$ quit on the play (skip to 8:46 in video, then shows iso cam of Crayton loafing like a b1tch). I was 50 ft away in the stands.

Nice story in your mind's eye though bruh. Typical Romo/Cowboy hater.

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

^^ Few things as I literally have bout 8 minutes before I head out for a ~9hour drive to my sis's for Turkey day:

1. TYVM for stipulating to 95% of what I wrote above. While even the announcer uses the word "overthrown" in the vid, I'll admit that I transposed that particular pass with a far worse horrendous throw by Romo in a G-men game @ Dallas very late in another Dallas choking loss. Hey, Romo has had so many career choking moments of varying degrees, it's sometimes hard to keep em all straight.

2. At some point, all you Romo fellators need to embrace the words of the great Bill Parcells: "You are what your record says you are." Your guy is 2-4 in the playoffs,and actually, a de facto 2-6 b/c the '12 &'13 games against the Giants & Skins were de facto playoff games (division marbles on line last game). And, oh yeah, that Lions win coupla years ago is tainted cuz even the NFL came out publicly and announced the refs fukked up that PI call... otherwise, Lions win. Btw, in case you Romo fellators have forgotten, Eli is 8-3 w/ 2 SB MVP's. "You are what your record says you are."

3. You're 50% right with your statement (which kinda makes perfect sense cuz your boy was 50% passing completion percentage in that '08 game) -- while I definitely hate the Cowboys (and that's natural and part of why we're all sports fans, rivals "hate" each other in sports context and should, that's part of what makes being a fan, fun)... while hating the Cowskirts, I definitely have a soft spot in my sports heart for Tony Romo. I ALMOST LOVE THE GUY! Why? Cuz it's been great knowing for ~decade w/Romo at the helm, the skirts weren't gonna be winning anything of major significance. WoRd

4. I hope to hell something happens where Romo has to come in and play. PLEASE, God! Even your team doesn't trust Romo in big spots, as ultimately, that's why he's not playing with him being now healthy. A truly great QB isn't sitting for a rookie... no way, no how. Not Montana, Peyton, Brady... the true great ones are back in there. Everyone knows this. The merely good ones with a horrible big game track record will sit, as your boy is doing. Cowskirts have seen Romo's big spot act, they want to see what they do w/the kid at the helm. Smart move.

5. Hey, Happy Thanksgiving to even you Romo fellators! We're all Americans... hopefully all love our country... happy & safe holiday to all you fellators you & yours. Having passion for our teams is what makes rooting for them great. peace-out