why did books accept the push on snf?

thechaoz · 10-09-16, 10:47 PM

Easily could of gone 7.5

goduke · 10-09-16, 10:48 PM

Why wouldn't they? They pay nothing except to people who buy points down and this will encourage people to do that in the future and pay more juice

goduke · 10-09-16, 10:49 PM

Even when they don't make big money on a game they still win in some way

lakerboy · 10-09-16, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by goduke

Why wouldn't they? They pay nothing except to people who buy points down and this will encourage people to do that in the future and pay more juice

How does it feel to be perfect?

t-wizzle · 10-09-16, 10:53 PM

Goduke

ChuckyTheGoat · 10-10-16, 03:30 AM

Laker's point is actually a good one. My only Q, which way would they go?

* If they go to -7.5, do they get too much NYG +7.5?

* If they go to -6.5, do they get too much GBay -6.5?

...I tend to think they lose quite a bit if they had used either 6.5 or 7.5.

tony_come · 10-10-16, 05:27 AM

Not true. We won

RavensFan2k3 · 10-10-16, 06:06 AM

I bought the hook and fell asleep when I thought it was over only to wake up and see I won lol

RGG · 10-10-16, 06:33 AM

That way people who pushed bet double on MNF.

thetrinity · 10-10-16, 06:35 AM

Better than being slammed on one side.

t-wizzle · 10-10-16, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

Laker's point is actually a good one. My only Q, which way would they go?

* If they go to -7.5, do they get too much NYG +7.5?

* If they go to -6.5, do they get too much GBay -6.5?

...I tend to think they lose quite a bit if they had used either 6.5 or 7.5.

Lol chucky. Why would anyone buy up to 7.5 or down to 6.5?

sportsfan9698 · 10-10-16, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Why?

You pose that question with some preconceived notion that this industry is a game and we are all puppets. They don't decide anything. The wagering market is massive, and the volume of wagers DICTATES the closing line. No one sportsbook nor a meeting in a smokey back room decides who covers and who loses. The 100's of millions of dollars wagered dictated a -7 spread, and any book that decides to step out of that balance makes a decision to become a player and not the book. That is how books go out of business.

The game on primetime pushed, it happens

Bostongambler · 10-10-16, 07:47 AM

The New York faithful would of hammered the 7.5 I presume.

BuckyOne · 10-10-16, 09:53 AM

All I know is most of the books follow on air to the big boys. Until such time as they are forced to be bookmakers with the previous run of results. Maybe, in some parts of the the country the action was splitting. If somebody breaks away and deals 6 1/2 or 7 1/2 I think they get a lot of action on middle shots - a lot.

Last night - if somebody goes 6 1/2 and the rest of the marketplaces stays at 7 - do you rock it for a big bet and then get a good juice cover. I can see somebody going to 6 1/2 with - like 125 on the juice?

lakerboy · 10-10-16, 10:05 AM

Guys thinking too much.

Books knew the game would land on 7.

BigdaddyQH · 10-10-16, 10:37 AM

This was the 2nd game to push on the line. It is not that uncommon.

terpkeg · 10-10-16, 11:14 AM

Bookmaker went to 6.5 momentarily before kicked but then moved right back

Itsamazing777 · 10-10-16, 11:19 AM

they have the vig

sportsfan9698 · 10-10-16, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

This was the 2nd game to push on the line. It is not that uncommon.

I know this, and serious people in this business know this. Sadly most in these forums like to theorize about conspiracies and fixes with their tin foil hats.

KVB · 10-10-16, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by sportsfan9698

You pose that question with some preconceived notion that this industry is a game and we are all puppets. They don't decide anything. The wagering market is massive, and the volume of wagers DICTATES the closing line. No one sportsbook nor a meeting in a smokey back room decides who covers and who loses. The 100's of millions of dollars wagered dictated a -7 spread, and any book that decides to step out of that balance makes a decision to become a player and not the book. That is how books go out of business.

The game on primetime pushed, it happens

The books routinely take positions and the markets are often not as efficient as even many successful long term bettors believe.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3050399-equal-action-right-action-lol-didnt-read.html

lolz_69 · 10-10-16, 11:34 AM

Laker has point. They could have made bank with GB -7.5. Giants put on a shitshow last time on national tv. Even sharps would be wary of backing them at that number

KVB · 10-10-16, 11:36 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Guys thinking too much.

Books knew the game would land on 7.

Nothing is for certain but it wasn't that surprising to some, depending on the metrics being used to analyze the markets...

Originally posted by KVB

...look for the Packers to win by the TD, or maybe more...

CanuckG · 10-10-16, 11:38 AM

It was 7.5 early in the week so some sharps won on NYG

triplecrown333 · 10-10-16, 11:48 AM

books make the most money on pushes, all prop bets lose or push, make a killing on reverses and parlays, so yeah a push is good for books...

trytrytry · 10-10-16, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by triplecrown333

books make the most money on pushes, all prop bets lose or push, make a killing on reverses and parlays, so yeah a push is good for books...

what prop bets lose on a push? parlay odds are better for the player the smaller the number of teams included so reducing parlays is not good for books either.