SO NFL tonight GIANTS or WNT ??

[Underdog5229]

giants straight up in a low scoring under the number game

[Hot Jerry]

I be happy to double my money here [ Gman] - I don't need +money on ML !! This is just fine with me and few other smart guys in here !!

[The Hat]

Vikings UGLY!

[Mako-SBR]

Giants played Vikes in MN Week 16 last year and lost 49-17...That was without Bradford of course.

Such a rough bet, want to take NYG and the points but man...scary

[sportsfan9698]

Giants played Vikes in MN Week 16 last year and lost 49-17...That was without Bradford of course.

Such a rough bet, want to take NYG and the points but man...scary

I have to ask you why? Because you like the Giants, you are a fan of the team? If you like to win you should want to take the Vikes

Vikes record for 3 games this season + 16 games last year... 16-3 ATS

You want to take the Gmen.... okay

[astrodomer]

I never take the G men... but I have them tonight!

[Mako-SBR]

I have to ask you why? Because you like the Giants, you are a fan of the team? If you like to win you should want to take the Vikes

Vikes record for 3 games this season + 16 games last year... 16-3 ATS

You want to take the Gmen.... okay

Because no AP and Bradford can't continue his pace. And despite the craziness from their fans, no the Vikes aren't winning 12 or even 11 games this year. Losses will occur at some point.

Also, Terrance Newman will get absolutely blown up by either Cruz OR OBJ, that mismatch is huge with either.

The Vikes pass rush has to win the game for them, literally it's entirely on their shoulders.

Points are points though, will play if I can get +5. Won't buy the hook to get it and likely won't play if +4.5.

WNT looks good at the moment.

[RRNJ13]

Eli Apple	CB	Hamstring	Did Not Participate In Practice	Doubtful
Olivier Vernon	DE	--	Full Participation in Practice	--
Marshall Newhouse	T	Calf	Did Not Participate In Practice	Out
Darian Thompson	S	Foot	Did Not Participate In Practice	Out
Nat Berhe	S	Concussion	Did Not Participate In Practice	Out
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie	CB	Groin	Did Not Participate In Practice	Questionable
Rashad Jennings	RB	Thumb	Limited Participation in Practice	Questionable
Robert Thomas	DT	Illness	Did Not Participate In Practice	Out

So who is playing defense? I like Bradford to hit some big shots Im taking the over

[Mako-SBR]

So who is playing defense? I like Bradford to hit some big shots Im taking the over

Bradford never hits "big shots", he's like the dink and dunk world record holder. Passes over 10 yards keep this guy up at night.

The over isn't a bad call though, Giants def is horrid, and Min DBs will get demolished by Cruz or OBJ, whomever is singled. You might have convinced me...

[MikeyD323]

If you guys prefer the lesser team on the road in a hostile environment.... okay go for it

I like the far better team at home

If it was a far better team at home the line would be -6.5 - 7

[pavyracer]

Bradford doesn't need to beat the Giants. Giants will beat themselves.

[tony_come]

I received a text to take Minnesota

I also received a text to take nyg

What should I do? Fukk!!

[RRNJ13]

[QUOTE=MikeyD323;26336974]If it was a far better team at home the line would be -6.5 - 7[/QUOT Just a fishy line with all the giant injuries Evryone backing Minnesota I like the over if the giants win it won't be 17 -13 it will be 27 -24 put a gun to my head I take Minnesota ML this has Giant backdoor comeback cover all over it

[sportsfan9698]

Because no AP and Bradford can't continue his pace. And despite the craziness from their fans, no the Vikes aren't winning 12 or even 11 games this year. Losses will occur at some point.

Also, Terrance Newman will get absolutely blown up by either Cruz OR OBJ, that mismatch is huge with either.

The Vikes pass rush has to win the game for them, literally it's entirely on their shoulders.

Points are points though, will play if I can get +5. Won't buy the hook to get it and likely won't play if +4.5.

WNT looks good at the moment.

Since now the line has dropped to 3.5 I guess your +5 is a dream that will not come true. I just feel a bit foolish for jumping on -4.5 last night... but not at all worried about it.

[Mako-SBR]

Since now the line has dropped to 3.5 I guess your +5 is a dream that will not come true. I just feel a bit foolish for jumping on -4.5 last night... but not at all worried about it.

Ha, yes, just saw. I think I'm going with the squarish over though, 42 is out there now, more tempting.

[HockeyRocks]

5Dimes has Mn at -3.5 now...What's up with that?

[pavyracer]

5Dimes has Mn at -3.5 now...What's up with that?

It means there is a lot of public money on Giants.

[Time is Money]

Eli Apple	CB	Hamstring	Did Not Participate In Practice	Doubtful
Olivier Vernon	DE	--	Full Participation in Practice	--
Marshall Newhouse	T	Calf	Did Not Participate In Practice	Out
Darian Thompson	S	Foot	Did Not Participate In Practice	Out
Nat Berhe	S	Concussion	Did Not Participate In Practice	Out
Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie	CB	Groin	Did Not Participate In Practice	Questionable
Rashad Jennings	RB	Thumb	Limited Participation in Practice	Questionable
Robert Thomas	DT	Illness	Did Not Participate In Practice	Out

So who is playing defense? I like Bradford to hit some big shots Im taking the over

There's legit one defensive starter in there and that's the safety. DRC is playing.

[Time is Money]

It means there is a lot of public money on Giants.

Slight edge to Vikings but it's close to a 50/50 split.

[Underdog5229]

Only way the vikes stay close is because of that defense

[sportsfan9698]

Slight edge to Vikings but it's close to a 50/50 split.

You are reading this incorrectly. Percentage of bets has nothing to do with $$ wagered.

For 6 days the $$ drove the line up (generally associated with "sharp" money). And now in the late hours, the $$ is coming in for NYG and driving it down (generally associated with recreational players). Those are the facts.

Does not mean you can read much into that... "sharps" go broke and pick losers just as much as the recreational players. You need to find other indicators to find winners on a statistical basis

[pavyracer]

Only way the vikes stay close is because of that defense

If I give you my address would you send me the moonshine you are drinking right now? Must be top of the line.

[sportsfan9698]

Only way the vikes stay close is because of that defense

Wow you actually think the Giants are the better team. Okay no problem. I'm a new poster here I don't want to piss anybody off... but if the Vikings dominate will you admit they are far better? Please don't come back and blame the refs or something silly.

BOL to you Underdog.

[pavyracer]

Wow you actually think the Giants are the better team. Okay no problem. I'm a new poster here I don't want to piss anybody off... but if the Vikings dominate will you admit they are far better? Please don't come back and blame the refs or something silly.

BOL to you Underdog.

I think he is saying it would have been a blowout for Giants if it wasn't for Vikings defense..because Giants blew out their last four opponents. They broke the scoreboards.

[Da Manster!]

Bradford doesn't need to beat the Giants. Giants will beat themselves.

good post, re malaka!...

[Da Manster!]

I be happy to double my money here [ Gman] - I don't need +money on ML !! This is just fine with me and few other smart guys in here !!

Hot Jerry!...we disagree on this one, my friend!......although I'm not releasing it as a "nail it, pound it" play, I feel extra good about taking the Vikes tonight...why?...because you didn't say GIANTS TO THE MOON!!!...GIANTS TO THE MOON!!!...

[The Hat]

I don't see Manning finishing this game

[The Hat]

Points are points though, will play if I can get +5. Won't buy the hook to get it and likely won't play if +4.5.

HOW is half a point between 4.5 and 5 enough to keep you from NOT playing???

[Bbfromgpt]

It means there is a lot of public money on Giants.

56% on Minn

[The Hat]

56% on Minn

that's quantity of bets, not volume of cash, correct?

[OTL]

For 6 days the $$ drove the line up (generally associated with "sharp" money). And now in the late hours, the $$ is coming in for NYG and driving it down (generally associated with recreational players). Those are the facts.

That's flawed logic. Not everyone who bets late is a rec player. Lots of sharps, arbers, and betting syndicates wait for line movement in their favour before they pounce. Joe Q public making small wagers is not what drives major line movement.

[sportsfan9698]

That's flawed logic. Not everyone who bets late is a rec player. Lots of sharps, arbers, and betting syndicates wait for line movement in their favour before they pounce. Joe Q public making small wagers is not what drives major line movement.

I'm partially right, and you are as well. The point I was trying to make (and you did not include with the quote) was that you cannot derive much of anything out of all of this. Trust me I have tried for decades. I finally learned it all means nothing and the numbers are provided to make the average player think they are smart and gaining an advantage. This industry DOES NOT expose anything that will give you an advantage.

[sportsfan9698]

Hell nowadays you can find interviews with sportsbook managers that will tell you flat out where the sharp money is going... and I don't think they are lying at all. End of the day, it is of no advantage.

[The Hat]

who cares about sharp money unless you're strictly going to follow (and play) the sharp money 100% of the time. Otherwise, you'll drive yourself crazy trying to pick when to follow sharp money plays

[Da Manster!]

I'm on the Vikes (-4) as well...I mean seriously can you trust a QB like Eli against one of the top defense in the NFL?!!...even my skins defense which sucks absolute donkey ass and is rated near the bottom of the NFL in every defensive statistical category picked him off three times last week!...just remember, if you are taking the G-Men and the points tonight, this is your QB....

I tried to warn you guys!...