Clinton vs trump live debate thread...tremendous event

[thetrinity]

The markets responded positively to the debates because it is clear to anyone with a brain that Hillary is qualified and prepared, while Donald is a blathering blow-hard idiot that didn't even prepare for the debate.

And then the market gains moderated because investors are realizing based on on-line polls and user comments that the American public is too stupid to realize that Donald is completely unqualified.

But hey, the establishment has had it's hand in the cookie jar for too long and people are so pissed they are willing to cut their nose off to spite their face.

C'est la vie

So people with a brain get more of a say? Really doesn't make much sense your argument.

[thetrinity]

Money is smart. People (collectively) are fukking stupid.

People are the voters though, they are going to decide it, not some football teams.

[thetrinity]

I should say voters in swing states will decide it.

[grease lightnin]

So people with a brain get more of a say? Really doesn't make much sense your argument.

Um..... I think you misunderstood my post. I don't know what to say other than read it again.... slowly.

[grease lightnin]

People are the voters though, they are going to decide it, not some football teams.

What the hell are you talking about? Football teams?

[lakerboy]

Hilary D+
Donald F

Donald had a YUGE opportunity to destroy Hilary on the emails and didn't take it...soooo disappointed in him. Hilary got in a couple good punches but displayed the typical NE Liberal Elitist personality that us in the Flyover States despise. Lester hold was an absolute abortion and should be executed immediately. Trump was clearly suffering frm a cold which left his stamina and Hilary health issues a non-starter.

Expectations going into the Debate...
Hilary B+/A-
Trump C-

I think when you consider expectations this was a statistical tie.

I can understand why some Americans won't vote for Trump. I cannot fathom why anyone who truly loves this country would ever even consider casting a vote for Hilary....sickening. If you hate The Donald, vote for Gary Johnson or stay at home.

Holt executed? Lmao that was funny.

[thetrinity]

Um..... I think you misunderstood my post. I don't know what to say other than read it again.... slowly.

To me, your argument sounds nice but contradicts itself. Like you are fading the public hence my football reference.

[brooks85]

More opportunities than I can remember to tear down hillary last night but trump ****** up. She brought up his tax returns and he replied about the 30k emails when he should have said something about the speeches to goldman sachs she won't release.

When she said many successful business people have never had to declare bankruptcy for their business he should have asked her to name some because she would have panicked and given stupid examples like Mark Cuban and Zuckerberg.

When she said trickle down economics caused the GFC that was comical and completely false. Obviously she is counting on the rkellys of the world to believe it and I'm sure they will.


When she went into denial about NAFTA he shouldn't have let it go. When they talked about minorities he should of brought up the fact her and bill ended up putting more of them in jail.

[grease lightnin]

To me, your argument sounds nice but contradicts itself. Like you are fading the public hence my football reference.

No. What I was saying is that investors underestimate the stupidity of the American public. Just like Brexit

[thetrinity]

More opportunities than I can remember to tear down hillary last night but trump ****** up. She brought up his tax returns and he replied about the 30k emails when he should have said something about the speeches to goldman sachs she won't release.

When she said many successful business people have never had to declare bankruptcy for their business he should have asked her to name some because she would have panicked and given stupid examples like Mark Cuban and Zuckerberg.

When she said trickle down economics caused the GFC that was comical and completely false. Obviously she is counting on the rkellys of the world to believe it and I'm sure they will.


When she went into denial about NAFTA he shouldn't have let it go. When they talked about minorities he should of brought up the fact her and bill ended up putting more of them in jail.

B I N G O

Looked like a raw politician last night.

I did think he got her on NAFTA though.

[thetrinity]

No. What I was saying is that investors underestimate the stupidity of the American public. Just like Brexit

Fair enough, but if they are investors they should be smart enough to know that, that's what I was saying.

[kyhawk]

Clinton wins the election. End of story.
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[Russian Rocket]

B I N G O

Looked like a raw politician last night.

I did think he got her on NAFTA though.

I think it's a good thing, that he looked like a raw politician, because most people that vote for him, don't want him to be or sound like a politician period.
He did let her of the hook easily last night though...and only he knows why. Maybe he was unprepared, overwhelmed or maybe it's all part of his strategy.

I guess only time will tell.

[grease lightnin]

Fair enough, but if they are investors they should be smart enough to know that, that's what I was saying.

Individually, investors are wrong all the time. But investors in the collective sense are THE MARKET, and thereby, are ALWAYS correct. They just change their mind alot.

[thetrinity]

I think it's a good thing, that he looked like a raw politician, because most people that vote for him, don't want him to be or sound like a politician period.
He did let her of the hook easily last night though...and only he knows why. Maybe he was unprepared, overwhelmed or maybe it's all part of his strategy.

I guess only time will tell.

True, could have been a rope a dope type deal. She's still a small favorite to win at this point IMO, nothing really changed.

[jjgold]

Trump was not aggressive enough

He was too nice

[thetrinity]

Individually, investors are wrong all the time. But investors in the collective sense are THE MARKET, and thereby are ALWAYS correct. They just change their mind alot.

I'm sure most have positions on Trump when he was a huge dog weeks ago anyways. Pretty hard to lose on politics IMO. This is the first time I've seen a surprise line move this whole cycle, that's all.

[Russian Rocket]

True, could have been a rope a dope type deal. She's still a small favorite to win at this point IMO, nothing really changed.

Yeah nothing changed at all. Some squares pounded Clinton ML, because she didn't die on stage. While Trump's supporters thought that he acted more human-like on stage.

It definitely will be a tough task for the American public to decide between a rookie politician and a failed politician come November elections.

[grease lightnin]

I'm sure most have positions on Trump when he was a huge dog weeks ago anyways. Pretty hard to lose on politics IMO. This is the first time I've seen a surprise line move this whole cycle, that's all.

I was referring to capital markets

[pilebuck13]

More opportunities than I can remember to tear down hillary last night but trump ****** up. She brought up his tax returns and he replied about the 30k emails when he should have said something about the speeches to goldman sachs she won't release.

When she said many successful business people have never had to declare bankruptcy for their business he should have asked her to name some because she would have panicked and given stupid examples like Mark Cuban and Zuckerberg.

When she said trickle down economics caused the GFC that was comical and completely false. Obviously she is counting on the rkellys of the world to believe it and I'm sure they will.


When she went into denial about NAFTA he shouldn't have let it go. When they talked about minorities he should of brought up the fact her and bill ended up putting more of them in jail.

Reason being there is dirt on both sides trump was avoiding a mud slinging match...it was obvious Lester holt was hammering trump with the hot topic questions and asked zero to Clinton....minute trump brings up the Goldman speeches she brings up the New York time interviews and so on same shit
Back and forth

[thetrinity]

Yeah nothing changed at all. Some squares pounded Clinton ML, because she didn't die on stage. While Trump's supporters thought that he acted more human-like on stage.

It definitely will be a tough task for the American public to decide between a rookie politician and a failed politician come November elections.

I think Trump already has the sick of politician crowd, he needs some of the other people who are hesitant to go with something new. But you could be right about him holding back, leaving his gun with some bullets. Not what I would have done though.

[Russian Rocket]

I think Trump already has the sick of politician crowd, he needs some of the other people who are hesitant to go with something new. But you could be right about him holding back, leaving his gun with some bullets. Not what I would have done though.

Yeah me too.

[khicks26]

It is your fault. It's everyones. Once people realize that our society will be better

Fair enough, now WTF do we do?

[khicks26]

More opportunities than I can remember to tear down hillary last night but trump ****** up. She brought up his tax returns and he replied about the 30k emails when he should have said something about the speeches to goldman sachs she won't release.

When she said many successful business people have never had to declare bankruptcy for their business he should have asked her to name some because she would have panicked and given stupid examples like Mark Cuban and Zuckerberg.

When she said trickle down economics caused the GFC that was comical and completely false. Obviously she is counting on the rkellys of the world to believe it and I'm sure they will.


When she went into denial about NAFTA he shouldn't have let it go. When they talked about minorities he should of brought up the fact her and bill ended up putting more of them in jail.

Yeah he sucked & was scared shitless. Talked in circles & lost his train of thought many many many times. Must be a massive let down for all you Trump clowns. Your boy shit the bed against one of the worse opponents. Maybe he should prepare next time instead of going with his gut.

[ByeShea]

Trump was not aggressive enough

He was too nice

Everyone who is for Hillary thinks she dominated.

Everyone who is for Trump thinks he didn't do enough.

Fact is, Trump did well to stay (relatively) calm. She hit him with everything, didn't destroy him, and gained no new voters. Trump won because the slow burn continues.

Of course I might be wrong - maybe America will take Hillary at her word that she will net 10 million new jobs while Trump will shed 3 1/2 million jobs. That claim is so stupid that no one, not right or left, even talks about it.

Oh and another thing, Assange isn't finished.

[khicks26]

[Russian Rocket]

Of course I might be wrong - maybe America will take Hillary at her word that she will net 10 million new jobs while Trump will shed 3 1/2 million jobs. That claim is so stupid that no one, not right or left, even talks about it.

I totally agree - that was the most pathetic thing she said last night.

[rkelly110]

You guys bust on Hillary as a career politician compared to Trump. Trump doesn't have new ideas, he's rehashing
old ones. (copying)

Tax breaks (Reagan) do nothing but add to the deficit. Economy is doing fine with the tax structure we have now.
Stop and frisk (NY) has already been deemed unconstitutional.
Immigration. It was build a wall, now it's to continue with what we've been doing.

That's what bullshitters do. Copy and make you think it's their ideas.

[Russian Rocket]

I really hope that the next debate will be a bit more like this:

[Russian Rocket]

Economy is doing fine with the tax structure we have now.

[khicks26]

As for all the polls the Trump clowns keep pushing. I would compare that to voting for the MLB All-Star game. The faithful rushing to protect their superstar.

[rkelly110]

Everyone who is for Hillary thinks she dominated.

Everyone who is for Trump thinks he didn't do enough.

Fact is, Trump did well to stay (relatively) calm. She hit him with everything, didn't destroy him, and gained no new voters. Trump won because the slow burn continues.

Of course I might be wrong - maybe America will take Hillary at her word that she will net 10 million new jobs while Trump will shed 3 1/2 million jobs. That claim is so stupid that no one, not right or left, even talks about it.

Oh and another thing, Assange isn't finished.

Clinton News Network talked about it this morning. If neither candidate does anything about jobs, 7 million will
be added. If Hillary does do something, 3 million will be added. So, it's better to leave it alone.

[khicks26]

I really hope that the next debate will be a bit more like this:

LOL

[rkelly110]

I really hope that the next debate will be a bit more like this:

Trumps small hands.

[Russian Rocket]

Trumps small hands.

...ironically it perfectly matches the size of your brain