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this happened because of bad judgment and it's just funny to me how people on sbr are so quick to judge without the full details... let's see what exactly happened before making judgments? i would like to hear both sides of the story, not just one. then i'll make my judgment.
i mean people are accusing the cop for not being able to distinguish between different black people but the passenger black woman couldn't even tell the difference between a hispanic and a chinese. so there's just a lot of stereotyping and hypocrisy everywhere you look.Comment -
oh and kermit, you should watch top gun, titanic, and avatar. they're all good movies.Comment -
woops.looks like Castile may have robbed a convenience store, didn't have a permit to carry
from the county, (perhaps at all), there was no 4-year old in the car, and his gun was
right next to his fingers, he was in the driver's seat.
Confirmed – Philando Castile Was an Armed Robbery Suspect – False Media Narrative Now Driving Cop Killings…
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Can someone answer a simple question? Where is the footage from the cops body camera in Minnesota?
Why is the whole country at war based on what some 2 dollar crack whore has to say on Facebook??Comment -
the robber and philando castile doesn't look the same to me. just look at the sideburns. the robber doesn't have any.Comment -
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When Philando Castile saw the flashing lights in his rearview mirror the night he got shot, it wasn't unusual. He had been pulled over at least 52 times in recent years in and around the Twin Cities and given citations for minor offenses including speeding, driving without a muffler and not wearing a seat belt.
He was assessed at least $6,588 in fines and fees, although more than half of the total 86 violations were dismissed, court records show.
Was Castile an especially bad driver or just unlucky? Or was he targeted by officers who single out black motorists like him for such stops, as several of his family members have alleged?
The answer may never be known, but Castile's stop for a broken tail light Wednesday ended with him fatally shot by a suburban St. Paul police officer, and Castile's girlfriend livestreaming the chilling aftermath.
The shooting has added a new impetus to a national debate on racial profiling; a day after Castile died, a black Army veteran killed five officers in Dallas at a demonstration over Castile's killing and another fatal police shooting, in Louisiana.
The Castile video "is pretty horrific," said Gavin Kearney, who in 2003 co-authored a report to the Minnesota Legislature on racial profiling in the state. "There are things we don't know about it. But we know there are certain assumptions and biases — whether explicit or implicit — about black men that affect how police officers interpret their actions. And we know white drivers are less likely to be pulled over."
Court records dating to 2002 show Castile, a 32-year-old school cafeteria supervisor, averaged more than three traffic stops per year and received citations for misdemeanors or petty misdemeanors.
Many charges were dismissed, but Castile pleaded guilty to some, mostly for driving after his license was revoked and driving with no proof of insurance. However, those two charges also were the most frequently dismissed, along with failing to wear a seat belt.
The records show no convictions for more serious crimes.
No recent information is available on the racial breakdown of drivers stopped or ticketed by police in Falcon Heights, the mostly white suburb where the shooting occurred, or in other Minnesota towns. Minnesota is not among the handful of states that require police to keep such data.
But in 2001, the Legislature asked for a racial profiling study and it fell to Kearney, then at the Institute on Race & Poverty at the University of Minnesota Law School, to conduct it. His study, using information supplied voluntarily by 65 law enforcement jurisdictions in the state, found a strong likelihood that racial and ethnic bias played a role in traffic stop policies and practices. Overall, officers stopped minority drivers at greater rates than whites and searched them at greater rates, but found contraband in those searches at lower rates than whites.
The analysis found the pattern was more pronounced in suburban areas. In Fridley, New Hope, Plymouth, Sauk Rapids and Savage combined, blacks were stopped about 310 percent more often than expected.
The St. Anthony Police Department, which employs the officer who shot Castile, did not participate in the study. St. Anthony officials have not commented on Castile's stop since shortly after the shooting.
It was not immediately clear how much money governments in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area generate from traffic violations. A U.S. Department of Justice investigation following the 2014 police shooting death of Michael Brown, a black, unarmed 18-year-old, in Ferguson, Missouri, found law enforcement efforts were focused on generating revenue for that city. Most of the tickets and fines were going to blacks.
Castile's girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, a passenger in the car, said the two officers who stopped them said the vehicle had a broken tail light. She said one of the officers shot him "for no apparent reason" after he reached for his ID.
Valerie Castile said she thinks her son "was just black in the wrong place." Minnesota Gov.Mark Dayton said he did not believe it would have happened to a white motorist.
The officer who shot Castile, Jeronimo Yanez, is Latino. His lawyer, Thomas Kelly, said Saturday that his client reacted to the fact that Castile had a gun, not his race, though Kelly would not discuss what led Yanez to initiate the traffic stop.
"Police understand the concerns about choices made about who gets stopped and what happens when they get stopped," said Darrel Stephens, executive director of the Major Cities Chiefs Association.
But the statistics can't simply be attributed to racial bias among police.
"When people call the police, they provide a description of somebody engaged in a crime. The police respond to those descriptions," said Stephens, a former Charlotte, North Carolina, police chief. "That counts for part of the disproportionality that we see in those numbers."
Last year, the President's Task Force on 21st Century Policing recommended police departments collect and analyze demographic data on all stops, searches and seizures.
Nationally, 13 percent of black drivers were pulled over at least once in 2011, compared with 10 percent of the white drivers, according to a survey by the U.S. Justice Department's Bureau of Justice Statistics.
The survey shows 68 percent of black drivers considered the stops legitimate compared with 84 percent of white drivers.
The precise reasons why certain motorists are pulled over more than others are difficult to identify, said Lorie Fridell, an associate professor of criminology at the University of South Florida, who trains police departments through a program called Fair and Impartial Policing.
"Our implicit biases are most likely to impact us when we're facing ambiguous situations," Fridell said. "A person reaching into a pocket is ambiguous. If I, as a white, middle-aged woman, reach into my pocket most people aren't going to experience fear. For a black male with dreadlocks, that ambiguous action would produce fear in many people."
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Associated Press writers Jason Keyser in Chicago and Sadie Gurman in Minneapolis and AP data journalists Meghan Hoyer in Washington and Larry Fenn in New York contributed to this report. Johnson reported from Chicago.
Comment - By CARLA K. JOHNSON AND STEVE KARNOWSKI, ASSOCIATED PRESS
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No, I do know..
Know all about tatted up chicks that smoke Newports, throw their kid in the back seat of a ride with a gun in it...
Youd have to be on crack to start videotaping shit after guns go off instead of making sure your child was ok...
She's worse than a $2 crack whore...Comment -
Stopped 52 Times by Police: Was It Racial Profiling?
What I found most unbelievable about his driving offenses was that he was stopped around 20 times and had a revoked license and no insurance.
I could never figure out how people can just casually continue to keep right on driving with a suspended license and not go to jail for it. I would be scared as shit trying to drive without a license and maybe even get into an accident that wasn't my fault and get popped for illegal driving.Comment -
Castle was a crip. Pics on his facebook throwing up signs wearing blue everything, and he belonged to the crip facebook group.
Has it even been verified that he was licensed to carry? The only thing I have seen about that is the local sherriff's dept tweeting that he did not have one through them...Comment -
What does him being a crip have to do w anything
what does him having a chl have to do w anything
stop being a piece of shit greaser you're better than thatComment -
They gonna shoot your ass grease and Ima be right here saying
well looks like he was in a biker gang. Here's a pic of him at a hootenanny with the bumblefuck, pa night riders
does anyone have proof that he had a license to carry?
nvm the fact that nobody should be shot for a bs reason like a suspended license or busted taillight or looking like a suspect, fukk even if he was the one to rob the place, that is not a reason to die. But yea continue tryna add buts to this and justify it, fukk boy.Comment -
I think body cameras with audio and video recording are an absolute necessity in law enforcement....think about it every place you go has cameras EXCEPT the penetrating police of all things....the ones whose job is encountering criminal activity and arresting ppl for it and of course sometimes shooting them....I mean if the local McD's or KFC needs security cameras to prevent crime then certainly a guy encountering criminals for a living needs one.
The argument from states is the 1000 bucks or whatever it costs for purchase and storage of body cameras and their footage is too high....well if that's the case how do they keep buying brand new fleets of cruisers to drive around in.
Think of the cost savings....if the officer involved in the Michael Brown shooting had video of this convenience store robbing thug attacking and resisting it might have not only saved taxpayer money but an entire neighborhood from being looted/burned under the guise of a "protest"....I mean we've got EXTREMELY convincing video evidence of Michael knocking over a convenience store right before the shooting that is useful in understanding his mindset but for some reason some little St Louis convenience store has great security cameras which tell the whole story clear as day but law enforcement doesn't have ANYTHING...I mean not even a dashcam or anything? This is St Louis not rural Kansas ffs
Just keep in mind a new fleet of these every 3 or 4 years is affordable:
But this is unaffordable:
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I have had a license for more than 25 years and I drive faster than Earnhardt at Daytona. I was only pulled over 3 times in my life.
How come Philanderer got pulled over 52 times and he was 10 years younger than me?
This is racial profiling.Comment -
Or maybe the police are familiar with him(which I would imagine they are) and consistently see him driving and they know it is being done illegally because they just pulled him over a week earlier and he didn't have a license. I could see if he was just pulled over 20 times for stupid shit like a bake light out, bad muffler, etc. But the fact that he has been nailed so many times driving with a revoked license is making me think otherwise. Maybe there is a reason why he isn't supposed to be driving.Comment -
I was responding to JJ's post:
Maybe I should have quoted it. But I do want to know all the facts. They will all come out in the wash anyway.we do not even know if he was a criminal ..some reports says he was and it is why he actually got pulled over although some say he was totally innocent ..we will never know
BlackHIPPY you have a chip on your shoulder.Comment -
I just can't get over how many times a person can get popped for driving with a suspended license and no insurance and continue to just drive. Not just this Castile guy, but many others as well.Comment -
One of my dad's friend's has a loser son a few years younger than me and he has been caught 5 times driving without a license in the last couple years. We can't figure out how he isn't in jail. Every time he gets caught, he gets more time added to his suspension. I don't think he can drive legally again until like 2020.Comment -
What's your ride pavy....I drove a Dodge Neon pos for years and NEVER got pulled over...I upgraded cars and suddenly I get pulled over all the time...I was a teenager then early 20s and drove as reckless as penetrate in that Neon (I called it the purple people eater bc it was a purple pos) and NO ONE pulled me over suddenly I drive a decent car and it's like I'm public enemy #1...I got pulled over TWICE in one day in Texas once.
If a black guy rolls by in a Lexus he's getting pulled over...you can call that racial profiling if you want but it is what it is....if you're a drug dealer you need to buy a used Dodge Neon....you will get rich....if you drive a Lexus you'll be in jail in a month.
Lexus is #1 statistically for getting pulled over....if you buy a Lexus it is assumed you are either a doctor/lawyer/criminal and if you roll by in one with a sideways ballcap and tats the first 2 just got eliminatedComment -
I have had many cars and bikes in my lifetime B. Fastest ones were the Mitsubishi 3000 GT and the Suzuki Hayabusa.Comment -
Nice...I've rented a couple different sports cars but have never owned one...I drive a 2013 Nissan Maxima SV which is nothing great but enough to get me pulled over like I rob banks for a living. I also recommend renting sports cars if you're needing to rent a car at any point (especially vacation of course)....I fuckin redline the shit out of em...penetrate the transmission or engine life I've only got the car for a few days so I'm in a nonstop drag race.Comment
