Tyronn Lue wore out his starters, did not play his bench.

[Snowball]

The Splash Brothers only combined for 20 points, and Green had 16,
so how did Cleveland allow the Warrior bench to run away with the
game ? Bad coaching by Tyronn Lue.

Lue wore out his starters. Lue sat his talented bench except for
garbage minutes at the end. Lue forced an injured JR Smith
to play when his hand was blistered. How stupid can he be ?

Consider the differences in minutes in a big Cavs road win
(Game 5 at Toronto), with last night:

Richard Jefferson 20 minutes, last night 12.
Channing Frye 13, last night 7.
Mo Williams 12, last night 2.
Dahntay Jones 9, last night 2.
James Jones 12, last night 2.
Timofey Mosgov 12, last night 2.
Shumpert went up in minutes, was overplayed.
Dellavedova about the same.
Those 2 minutes above were useless and would have
been zero if the game was close at the end.

Ok so please explain to me why you leave JR Smith in the game
taking up 36 minutes when he scraped his hand on the floor
in the first quarter and was obviously worthless ?

How do you not play Channing Frye and the Joneses ?

How do you not give Mosgov minutes when he started all games against
the Warriors last year - and Bogut is eating up Love ?

Why didn't Mo Williams relieve Irving at point ?
Why did you overplay Shumpert who did nothing but
3 points in 17 minutes when you have better players sitting down ?

Why did you force your starters, who rallied back to take the LEAD
in the early 4th quarter, play 40 minutes of basketball against
a fast team whose pace is relentless and bench is eating you alive ?
Why ? Because your starters are burnt out and JR Smith has no hand.

Seriously how is this guy a coach ? What did he do in this game ?
He did not manage his team. He did not manage the flow.
He did nothing and has no idea how to utilize.

The Cavs have no chance to win a game if they don't use the bench
which is a very talented bench, because the Warriors and Steve Kerr
are not a team you can burn out your starters against.

[l7ustin]

Blatt would have won by DD

[jjgold]

CLEVE does not have the players to compete

lol you guys are so dumb

[lakerboy]

The excuses begin.

I told u the bench is all retreads.

[Eddy Munny]

Dellavedova is worthless off the bench imo. This guy is still basking in the residual glow of last year's 25 point fluke in the Finals.

Cavs would be better if they'd managed to keep Waiters and shipped Delly. I'd like Mo Williams to usurp Delly's minutes and see how that plays out... Honestly, does anybody really think there'd be some kind of dropoff?

I mean the Cavs problems in this series are far greater than anything this minor tweak could rectify, but it's something that could bolster the second unit. Unfortunately, Mo's probably rusty given he's only seen the floor during garbage time.

Agree Mosgov might be an asset in this series if the Cavs used him correctly. He was one of the few bright spots for the decimated Cavs in last year's Finals. But like Mo, Cleveland would have been wise to regularly work him into the rotation during the playoff run... probably too much of a crapshoot to dust him off now and expect positive returns.

[jjgold]

most players on Cleve could not make GSW team

Irving/LOve could not even start

[keed1]

spot on

CLEVE does not have the players to compete

lol you guys are so dumb

[Snowball]

The excuses begin.

I told u the bench is all retreads.

They didn't play last night.
Kind of hard to prove yourself sitting on the bench
while your starters die and one of them has no hand.

[lakerboy]

Cavs tt is 99 in game 2. Was 102 in game 1. The writing is on the wall. James will be on suicide watch.

[Ted Sheckler]

Good comparison.

You pick game 5 vs toronto, where this "talented" bench got big minutes. They only got big minutes because they were up by 30 at half and 40 in the 4th.


Cavs going to need to figure something out. Play Irving/Smith/Shumpert/Lebron/Love. Quit playing Thompson/Love together. Let Love play Bogut. Make Bogut sit at the 3 point line defending Love.

Get JR Smith going early on. 3 shots yesterday, I don't think he took a shot in the 1st quarter, which is just stupid.

[theRIGisin]

Tyron lue does whatever lebron wants him to do. He isnt "coaching" this team at any capacity

[YouHave2outs]

last year it was that the Cavs were injured.

people saying it would be a much different series with Love and Irving.

people cannot give the Warriors their due no matter what, as they crush the Cavs with wave after wave of talent, superb cutting, passing, catching, finishing. each player like a piece in a well oiled machine.

sure Lue's gameplan was manure, but where were these threads before the series? It was all about how the Cavs would be a much different team this year, and the Warriors are overrated.

[INVEGA MAN]

he will be outcoached in this series but are we surprised by this

[Snowball]

Channing Frye was getting over 20 minutes a game until last night.
He can shoot just as good as JR Smith, if not better.
Mo Williams is a veteran PG, there is no reason why he shouldn't
back up Irving.
Mosgov is an effective Center, especially on rebounds.
Not much else to say. The Cavs have no chance if Lue wears down
his starters. He has one game to figure this out.

[keed1]

Channing Frye was getting over 20 minutes a game until last night.
He can shoot just as good as JR Smith, if not better.
Mo Williams is a veteran PG, there is no reason why he shouldn't
back up Irving.
Mosgov is an effective Center, especially on rebounds.
Not much else to say. The Cavs have no chance if Lue wears down
his starters. He has one game to figure this out.

-Dray and Barnes can shut down Frye
-Mo Williams cant guard Livingston
-Mosgov would get run off the floor

Your NBA knowledge is lacking.

[BuckyOne]

Let's not forget that JR Smith defended well - So, did Kyrie. They were busting their butt - The subs you are talking about - how did they do on defense when they were in there? It is like the Dutch kid with the finger in the dike - team works hard to to hold Curry & Thompson to 4 of 13 from 3pt fg's and the other guys step forward and do their job.

I don't know - Cleveland was doing something right for 3 quarters - then you are saying they ran out of gas. It's six of one half of a dozen of the other - you have the subs in for the first half and maybe, they are down by 20 at half time?

Cleveland needs to play defense to win these games - don't think you can come out and out gun the GSW?

[Snowball]

watch the Cavs win Sunday
on the backs of their bench
which everyone here says is bums.

[jjgold]

Cavs will lose by 20 points on Sunday it's a terrible mismatch

[IBetYou]

Dellavedova is worthless off the bench imo. This guy is still basking in the residual glow of last year's 25 point fluke in the Finals.

Cavs would be better if they'd managed to keep Waiters and shipped Delly. I'd like Mo Williams to usurp Delly's minutes and see how that plays out... Honestly, does anybody really think there'd be some kind of dropoff?

I mean the Cavs problems in this series are far greater than anything this minor tweak could rectify, but it's something that could bolster the second unit. Unfortunately, Mo's probably rusty given he's only seen the floor during garbage time.

Agree Mosgov might be an asset in this series if the Cavs used him correctly. He was one of the few bright spots for the decimated Cavs in last year's Finals. But like Mo, Cleveland would have been wise to regularly work him into the rotation during the playoff run... probably too much of a crapshoot to dust him off now and expect positive returns.

You're out of touch. Delly is one of their best players. Mo.Williams is a horrendous defender and a bigtime choker.

[IBetYou]

Delly reminds me so much of Derek Fisher; a hard-nosed defender/ clutch shooter/ good playmaker. People look at him and ask how can he be effective? He's too small to play the two, not explosive enough to play the 1. His coaches like him and that says it all.

[Ratzz]

The Splash Brothers only combined for 20 points, and Green had 16,
so how did Cleveland allow the Warrior bench to run away with the
game ? Bad coaching by Tyronn Lue.

Lue wore out his starters. Lue sat his talented bench except for
garbage minutes at the end. Lue forced an injured JR Smith
to play when his hand was blistered. How stupid can he be ?

Consider the differences in minutes in a big Cavs road win
(Game 5 at Toronto), with last night:

Richard Jefferson 20 minutes, last night 12.
Channing Frye 13, last night 7.
Mo Williams 12, last night 2.
Dahntay Jones 9, last night 2.
James Jones 12, last night 2.
Timofey Mosgov 12, last night 2.
Shumpert went up in minutes, was overplayed.
Dellavedova about the same.
Those 2 minutes above were useless and would have
been zero if the game was close at the end.

Ok so please explain to me why you leave JR Smith in the game
taking up 36 minutes when he scraped his hand on the floor
in the first quarter and was obviously worthless ?

How do you not play Channing Frye and the Joneses ?

How do you not give Mosgov minutes when he started all games against
the Warriors last year - and Bogut is eating up Love ?

Why didn't Mo Williams relieve Irving at point ?
Why did you overplay Shumpert who did nothing but
3 points in 17 minutes when you have better players sitting down ?

Why did you force your starters, who rallied back to take the LEAD
in the early 4th quarter, play 40 minutes of basketball against
a fast team whose pace is relentless and bench is eating you alive ?
Why ? Because your starters are burnt out and JR Smith has no hand.

Seriously how is this guy a coach ? What did he do in this game ?
He did not manage his team. He did not manage the flow.
He did nothing and has no idea how to utilize.

The Cavs have no chance to win a game if they don't use the bench
which is a very talented bench, because the Warriors and Steve Kerr
are not a team you can burn out your starters against.

agreed. Frye 20 min, minimum for victory. Frye underused since arrival.
Lue 110% sold on continuous Big 3. mistake. uses spices. pick up flavor.
disrupt defensive schemes. McRae also underused. rookie. great one.

[Snowball]

agreed. Frye 20 min, minimum for victory. Frye underused since arrival.
Lue 110% sold on continuous Big 3. mistake. uses spices. pick up flavor.
disrupt defensive schemes. McRae also underused. rookie. great one.

right, so what do we do about it ?
skip the next game.
how can we trust Lue to coach correctly ?
we can't. it's depressing.

[keed1]

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/06/warriors-cavaliers-game-1-kyrie-irving

i dont need this article to prove my point, but thought it might get through to you guys. Kyrie defense is horrible

[Ratzz]

right, so what do we do about it ?
skip the next game.
how can we trust Lue to coach correctly ?
we can't. it's depressing.

adjustments will be made. do not leave ship. kerr got pass last year. played 60% of opponent.
Lue learning quick. Game 2 victory.

[keed1]

adjustments will be made. do not leave ship. kerr got pass last year. played 60% of opponent.
Lue learning quick. Game 2 victory.

How? everyone just makes bold proclamations but offer no solution to how

[IBetYou]

LeBron has come out and said they will have a better game plan for game 2 -warning shots for Lue already

[JayDr3am]

The Splash Brothers only combined for 20 points, and Green had 16,
so how did Cleveland allow the Warrior bench to run away with the
game ? Bad coaching by Tyronn Lue.

Lue wore out his starters. Lue sat his talented bench except for
garbage minutes at the end. Lue forced an injured JR Smith
to play when his hand was blistered. How stupid can he be ?

Consider the differences in minutes in a big Cavs road win
(Game 5 at Toronto), with last night:

Richard Jefferson 20 minutes, last night 12.
Channing Frye 13, last night 7.
Mo Williams 12, last night 2.
Dahntay Jones 9, last night 2.
James Jones 12, last night 2.
Timofey Mosgov 12, last night 2.
Shumpert went up in minutes, was overplayed.
Dellavedova about the same.
Those 2 minutes above were useless and would have
been zero if the game was close at the end.

Ok so please explain to me why you leave JR Smith in the game
taking up 36 minutes when he scraped his hand on the floor
in the first quarter and was obviously worthless ?

How do you not play Channing Frye and the Joneses ?

How do you not give Mosgov minutes when he started all games against
the Warriors last year - and Bogut is eating up Love ?

Why didn't Mo Williams relieve Irving at point ?
Why did you overplay Shumpert who did nothing but
3 points in 17 minutes when you have better players sitting down ?

Why did you force your starters, who rallied back to take the LEAD
in the early 4th quarter, play 40 minutes of basketball against
a fast team whose pace is relentless and bench is eating you alive ?
Why ? Because your starters are burnt out and JR Smith has no hand.

Seriously how is this guy a coach ? What did he do in this game ?
He did not manage his team. He did not manage the flow.
He did nothing and has no idea how to utilize.

The Cavs have no chance to win a game if they don't use the bench
which is a very talented bench, because the Warriors and Steve Kerr
are not a team you can burn out your starters against.

well said snowball. alot of these idiots didnt realize that. kerr just simply out coached lue.

[Eddy Munny]

You're out of touch. Delly is one of their best players. Mo.Williams is a horrendous defender and a bigtime choker.

Delly reminds me so much of Derek Fisher; a hard-nosed defender/ clutch shooter/ good playmaker. People look at him and ask how can he be effective? He's too small to play the two, not explosive enough to play the 1. His coaches like him and that says it all.

You think Dellavedova is one of their best players??? If that is in fact the case, then the Cavs should get swept.

Mo Williams isn't anything special at this point in his career, but Delly brings almost nothing to the table to spur the second unit. I'll give him that maybe he's an adequate defender at times, but even that's just grasping at straws.

I disagree that he's a playmaker and please don't call him a "clutch shooter." It's a stretch to even call him a shooter. For an NBA guard, I'd confidently saw he's below average in that department. His shooting motion has that little hitch in it and most of the time the ball comes off flat, drawing iron more than net. He gets quite a few open looks when he's on the floor, and he doesn't seem to do much with it.

Let's face it... when Delly is on the floor, Cleveland is just biding their time, waiting for Irving to catch his breath so he can get back out there and provide another scoring threat for the Cavs.

I'm not trying to hate on the guy, and Cleveland's problems in this matchup go beyond him, but Delly isn't to the Cavs what Derek Fisher was to the Lakers... that's absurd. Livingston and Barbosa are both spark plugs off the bench for Golden State. Delly is just a guy.

[DUBnation]

So they lost because they didn't play James Jones, Mozgov, Williams, Frye, and Dahntay Jones enough? You're comparing their minutes last night to a 40 point home blowout victory. Don't think any of them are averaging more than 5 minutes a game in the Playoffs other than Frye, there's a reason for that.

[Snowball]

So they lost because they didn't play James Jones, Mozgov, Williams, Frye, and Dahntay Jones enough? You're comparing their minutes last night to a 40 point home blowout victory. Don't think any of them are averaging more than 5 minutes a game in the Playoffs other than Frye, there's a reason for that.

Frye was the MOST underutilized, but Shumpert was overutilized
and this was not a normal game because JR Smith injured his hand
sliding it on the floor. The announcers said it was blistered and we
could see him grabbing it out of pain. He should have been pulled out.
Also Mosgov played last year against Warriors. He did quite well and
is a great blocker and rebounder. A better coach would not have let
his starters get back from a 13-point deficit to take the lead only to
lose control and be crushed out of fatigue and bad planning.

Everyone acts like it was a blowout and forget the Cavs took the lead
a few times. I expect the Cavs to be better adjusted and have a better
plan in Game 2, but I won't bother adding a single bet on the game
because I don't trust the coach right now. If he gives me a reason to
trust him in Game 2 then I may back them in Cleveland. we'll see.

[rm18]

you have to be joking about playing jones,s they arr not even nba players

[Snowball]

you have to be joking about playing jones,s they arr not even nba players

[thetrinity]

Guy is over his head, another case of LeBron wanting his guy in there.

Bench is garbage anyways.

Warriors bench is 10 times better.

[YouHave2outs]

Delly reminds me so much of Derek Fisher; a hard-nosed defender/ clutch shooter/ good playmaker. People look at him and ask how can he be effective? He's too small to play the two, not explosive enough to play the 1. His coaches like him and that says it all.

Cavs need to run a 7 man rotation to have any chance. I wouldn't remove delli from the pine for a single second.

[jtoler]

Was wondering why Frye only played 7 minutes, he could have cut some of those double digit leads in half himself.