Billy Donovan

tsty · 05-29-16, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Well done tsty you're very impressive. Would they win game 7 with you on the sidelines?

All I'm saying is that come game time the coach is irrelevant for plays. The only thing they do is manage egos.

I would have multiple rings too if I got to coach Duncan/MJ/Kobe..

lakerboy · 05-29-16, 01:23 PM

Westbrook could have gotten to the line every time.

IBetYou · 05-29-16, 01:40 PM

Leadership is crucial, and the leader on pretty much every team in the league is the coach. Whatever he says filters down every level below, so I don't know how you can say that's not important. Look no further than the Warriors; they didn't change much besides the coach.

tsty · 05-29-16, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by IBetYou

Leadership is crucial, and the leader on pretty much every team in the league is the coach. Whatever he says filters down every level below, so I don't know how you can say that's not important. Look no further than the Warriors; they didn't change much besides the coach.

are you serious right now? most of the time the leader is the best player on the team

What was the difference between the warriors being "coachd" by kerr vs walton? nothing

I would of coachd the warriors to 73 wins too lmao

The true leader of the warriors is the donkey ainec

lakerboy · 05-29-16, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by tsty

are you serious right now? most of the time the leader is the best player on the team

What was the difference between the warriors being "coachd" by kerr vs walton? nothing

I would of coachd the warriors to 73 wins too lmao

The true leader of the warriors is the donkey ainec

He was talking about Marc jackson.

IBetYou · 05-29-16, 02:40 PM

you've got a lot to learn kid, a LOT TO LEARN

IBetYou · 05-29-16, 02:43 PM

Westbrook & Durant are the stars of the Thunder, but what role do they play in the development of Adams/ Roberson? Not much is the answer. Westbrook & Durant manage only themselves. Donovan is effectively running the program.

IBetYou · 05-29-16, 02:50 PM

larkerboy is right, although it's Mark Jackson. Marc Jackson was the power forward.

tsty · 05-29-16, 03:02 PM

yes that's all well and good guys but we were talking about game time..

then you guys switched it up to prove your point..

when you are talking about out coaching someone then that involves game time ey not how you developed your role players

which involves other ppl tbh

IBetYou · 05-29-16, 03:14 PM

Coaching by definition is preparation. Both teams prepare all season for this season defining game coming up.

existential · 05-29-16, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by cryptocap

guys OKC played a great game...their bench was better than GS...here is the flat out truth...3 ball...warriors shot almost 48 percent *KLAY...and westbrook n durant bricked so many attempts trying to just cut the game off down the stretch...what they needed to do was get tough, move the ball and force golden state to slow them down by fouling and getting to the line...they will make that adjustment and be able to beat GS even if they shoot lights out...its just math

their bench only outscored GS's bench by 1 point. it could've been a much larger difference had Kanter got more than 11 mins. and that's solely on Donovan.

existential · 05-30-16, 10:04 PM

Kanter only 9 mins so far despite an efficient 8 pts, 4 boards, and a block in that time

Donovan clueless

jjgold · 05-30-16, 10:08 PM

GSW has too many players

Outmatched thats all

CanuckG · 05-30-16, 10:13 PM

All the morons chiming in earlier saying he is a top coach

IBetYou · 05-30-16, 10:15 PM

yeah but stats aren't everything. Kanter is a renowned stat stuffer but a weak link on defense. They overpaid for him.

IBetYou · 05-30-16, 10:18 PM

Adams is the only one on that Thunder frontline worth that kind of money

existential · 05-30-16, 10:22 PM

unfortunately for Thunder fans, Donovan went full retard in Games 6 & 7. is he a terrible coach? no. but these were painfully obvious mistakes to those who understand basketball.

decides to go small in 2H of Game 6 and for most of Game 7 - who does that against Warriors?

was truly bizarre watching Adams and Kanter just sitting there looking at each other on the bench with that "WTF?" look.

ah well, Warriors better shot at beating Cavs than OKC due to home court plus better decision makers on court and sidelines. the kunts better win or i'll be pissed.

existential · 05-30-16, 10:26 PM

Game 7 mins:

Kanter - 9
Adams - 26

only 35 mins played out of possible 96 mins total. seriously, who does that?.. especially for the ton of money invested?

stackz125 · 05-30-16, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

All the morons chiming in earlier saying he is a top coach

Now same morons saying he's the worst.

BigDofBA · 05-30-16, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by existential

unfortunately for Thunder fans, Donovan went full retard in Games 6 & 7. is he a terrible coach? no. but these were painfully obvious mistakes to those who understand basketball.

decides to go small in 2H of Game 6 and for most of Game 7 - who does that against Warriors?

was truly bizarre watching Adams and Kanter just sitting there looking at each other on the bench with that "WTF?" look.

ah well, Warriors better shot at beating Cavs than OKC due to home court plus better decision makers on court and sidelines. the kunts better win or i'll be pissed.

Agreed. You're not going to beat the Warriors at their own game. They have the two best shooters in the world. When OKC looked dominant in this serious, they were letting the big fellas eat.

Ra77er · 05-31-16, 01:05 AM

Big men should not be playing man to man on perimeter shooters...as much as that Ibaka foul sucked, God gave him that talent to protect the rim. Everyone is scrambling to figure out how to beat GS formula when the best thing is to play to your own strengths. If you are going to invest in big men then you should put them in positions to succeed within a system. I'm assuming the superstars are dictating the team vision nowadays and that alone spells disaster. Coaches need to be allowed to coach and corporate should back them up in total harmony. No idea if Billy has that support or if he isn't comfortable utilizing that type of talent or if he is being overruled by players egos either they were 1 game away from the finals so it shouldn't take too many adjustments. (assuming kd stays)

Git Lo · 05-31-16, 01:17 AM

You guys can armchair coach all you want. Give credit to GS
-Guys like Roberson and Waiters couldn't hit shots in a big game.
-Warriors got contributions from everyone
-Curry + Klay is too deadly.
-People still sleep on Curry's skills its crazy
-Enes Kanters is weak, led the league in offensive rebounding and put up monster FT and FG% stats in the regular season but is weak. Most people don't get this but will continue to blame it on the coach.
-Best team in the regular season league won 3 in a row when it came down to it
-If your still fading GS this late in the season you won't get this either

jjgold · 05-31-16, 01:26 AM

I thought he did a great job this year

INVEGA MAN · 05-31-16, 01:30 AM

They burn out in the 4th quarter because Westbrook & Durant play 46minutes a game & curry & Thompson play 40 minutes

existential · 05-31-16, 01:36 AM

OKC needs a legit starting SG and a proven backup PG. Roberson is a good defender, rebounder, and athlete, but can't shoot. he's a legit playoff rotational guy though. Payne has looked ok in spots backing up Westbrook, but can't shoot either and didn't get any meaningful playoff mins.

OKC was essentially only 7-deep for the playoffs and that included Waiters (who should be nothing more than a 9th or 10th guy for an elite roster). so we're really only talking about 6-deep trustworthy guys when you think about it.

too many people keep saying that OKC is so loaded, but they really aren't. just look at all these guys wasting roster spots..

Mohammed
Collison
Singler
Foye
Morrow

and again, some would be inclined to include Waiters and Payne on that list too.

lakerboy · 05-31-16, 01:56 AM

OKC needed 3 point shooters. Even 1 good one would have helped. Russell Westbrook is a terrible shooter. He should not be allowed to take 3's. He laughs at curry's defence but I bet curry laughs at his 3point jokes. No matter what anyone says if okc kept harden they would have won a title by now.

existential · 05-31-16, 02:09 AM

Durant really isn't either, barely shot 30% on 3's. even worse, he dramatically increased his 3-pt attempts in the last 3 games of the series proving that he's not exactly the most cerebral guy either.

lakerboy · 05-31-16, 02:11 AM

Agreed

BigDofBA · 05-31-16, 06:49 AM

OKC gave the effort but they just didn't hit the shots they needed to.

Durant and Westbrook had no choice but to try to do it themselves last night. No one was making plays.

The Warriors made slightly more plays. Give them credit.

As for Harden, OKC tried to sign him. They offer him a huge deal but it was only four years. Houston offered five.

OKC probably wouldn't have gotten Adams had they kept Harden.

IBetYou · 05-31-16, 08:25 AM

Bit too much over-analysis on here. Warriors won because the splash brothers made numerous step-back threes over the contest. No one else does this in the NBA. It's not like they were over Kanter either -Adams & Ibaka move their feet pretty well.