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  • daneblazer
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    • 09-14-08
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    #1
    Angels should trade Mike Trout
    Pretty compelling argument here...cant say I disagree

    For the last week or so, the Angels have been pretty vague about what’s going on with Garrett Richards. He missed a start due to “fatigue” and “dehydration”, but they hadn’t given any real indicators…


    And that reality prompts the obvious question: is it time to think about trading Mike Trout?
    You never want to be in a position where you’re potentially thinking about trading one of the greatest players of all time. The Angels should want Mike Trout to retire having worn only their jersey, and go into the Hall of Fame as a lifelong Angel. When you have a +10 win player, you should want to take advantage of his greatness and put a winner around him.
    But the Angels have tried that, and thanks to some bad decisions that have long-term consequences — the Albert Pujols contract still has another $140 million left after this season — it’s not entirely clear that the team can actually do that. Their farm system isn’t just the worst in baseball; it’s the worst that anyone can remember in some time. If the Angels keep Mike Trout, and just keep trying to surround him with decent free agents while trying to build back up the prospect base, there’s a pretty good chance they’ll be a 75 win team for the remainder of his contract, and then they’ll have to convince him to re-sign another contract with a franchise that spent six years failing to provide him with adequate support.
    Maybe Trout just loves the Angels so much that he’d do that. But wallowing around .500 for a few years for the hope that Trout eventually chooses to pass on joining teams with better rosters and more money for the right to stay with a team that wasted his prime seems like a bad bet. And if they make that bet and then he still leaves, then all they’ll have done is put off the inevitable, while squandering the ability to rebuild the franchise entirely in the meantime.
    It’s not a decision the Angels want to be faced with, but Richards injury should force them to at least consider the possibility that the best path forward for the franchise is to blow this thing up. Trading Mike Trout would not only bring back an incredible return in young talent — imagine the package the Dodgers could put together — but would also allow the team to admit that it’s time to pivot, focusing on loading up with as many young players as possible, spending big on international free agency and the draft instead of throwing $15 to $20 million at another pitcher at the end of his career who might not be good enough to help anyway.
    This isn’t a foolproof plan, of course. Teams have traded away superstars to enter rebuilding cycles, only to see the young players they load up on all fail, and have ended up without a present or a future. Trading Trout isn’t so obviously the right move that the team should just take any offer on the table. Maybe Billy Eppler and his staff can figure out how to spend that $40 million effectively this winter, putting a winner around Trout instead of trying to build one without him.
    But at this point, with 2016 likely another lost year and 2017’s ability to bounce back being put into question as well, it’s time for the Angels to at least start thinking about what a Mike Trout trade would look like. And if the Dodgers or Red Sox want to overwhelm them with a crazy package of young talent, then they should at least have that discussion.
    The Angels were already on the tipping point, needing some things to go their way in order to justify their continued attempts at contention. Losing Richards is a significant blow not just because of how good he is, but because of how fragile the Angels hopes were. At this point, without their ace, the Angels should also start thinking about what life might look like without Mike Trout.
  • jjgold
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    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    well they are medico ire most years with him

    Pitching wins not hitting

    He has terrible value if you give him huge money
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    • Jeffie
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      • 04-06-12
      • 3428

      #3
      Originally posted by jjgold
      well they are medico ire most years with him

      Pitching wins not hitting

      He has terrible value if you give him huge money
      Angels wouldn't have won 50 games last year without him. But I do agree pitchers are key to winning games and angels just lost their only good starter. And weaver can barely throw the ball 80 mph now.
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      • jjgold
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        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        I would trade him and get great young arms and young prospects
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        • Chi_archie
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          • 07-22-08
          • 63172

          #5
          won't happen though unless their fire their current GM

          because for him to go ahead and trade maybe a top 10 all time talent in Baseball because they can't win with the horrible horrible farm system and horrible free agent contracts (Pujols) he is admitting that he ****** it all up. and he'd get fired anyways.

          but yeah for them to have any shot at winning their need to sell everything off they can, and Trout can actually restock them with young talent
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          • pavyracer
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            • 04-12-07
            • 82839

            #6
            They need to fire the manager first. Team underperforming with superior talent. Why should they trade their best player because their manager sucks?
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            • Chi_archie
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              • 07-22-08
              • 63172

              #7
              Originally posted by pavyracer
              They need to fire the manager first. Team underperforming with superior talent. Why should they trade their best player because their manager sucks?

              they don't have talent... that is the point

              they over paid for old washed up has beens
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              • pavyracer
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                • 04-12-07
                • 82839

                #8
                Originally posted by Chi_archie
                they don't have talent... that is the point

                they over paid for old washed up has beens
                I meant fire the GM who signed the players. Not the team manager (coach).
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                • VegasPlayer
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                  • 07-27-09
                  • 3676

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                  I meant fire the GM who signed the players. Not the team manager (coach).
                  GM quit last year
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                  • packerd_00
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                    • 05-22-13
                    • 17811

                    #10
                    What teams would have the pitchers to package up for a player of Trouts calibre.
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                    • mohye1980
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                      • 01-25-14
                      • 2363

                      #11
                      Originally posted by packerd_00
                      What teams would have the pitchers to package up for a player of Trouts calibre.
                      Dodgers
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                      • Ralphie Halves
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                        • 12-13-09
                        • 4507

                        #12
                        Originally posted by packerd_00
                        What teams would have the pitchers to package up for a player of Trouts calibre.
                        You're looking more at who has the pitching prospects. Dodgers for example, aren't trading Kershaw for anybody.

                        That being said, Dodgers would still be the best bet here. Loaded with young arms. Twins not far back.
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                        • Mr KLC
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                          • 12-19-07
                          • 31097

                          #13
                          If they trade Trout, nobody comes to the home games. This team is starting to look like it is in the mold of the old Giants teams that did nothing with Barry Bonds in the lineup.
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                          • pavyracer
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                            • 04-12-07
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by packerd_00
                            What teams would have the pitchers to package up for a player of Trouts calibre.
                            Braves have a lot of great players in the minors.
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                            • Jowframs
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                              • 08-10-09
                              • 5128

                              #15
                              Get Rid Of The Idiot MGR
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                              • packerd_00
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                                • 05-22-13
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                Braves have a lot of great players in the minors.
                                Originally posted by Ralphie Halves
                                You're looking more at who has the pitching prospects. Dodgers for example, aren't trading Kershaw for anybody.

                                That being said, Dodgers would still be the best bet here. Loaded with young arms. Twins not far back.


                                Originally posted by mohye1980
                                Dodgers
                                Good suggestions guys.

                                Rangers aswelll are another team with the strong farm system that could probably make a competitive offer . I guess the Dodgers would be the best option just given the way they spend money and the media exposure is second to none.
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                                • funnyb25
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                                  • 07-09-09
                                  • 39663

                                  #17
                                  Trout waiting to go to the Phillies...guy tweets about Philly sports daily....
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                                  • packerd_00
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                                    • 05-22-13
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                                    #18
                                    Wouldn't he want to go to a team with a legitimate shot at a title.But hey you may end up being right,who knows.
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                                    • funnyb25
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                                      • 07-09-09
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by packerd_00
                                      Wouldn't he want to go to a team with a legitimate shot at a title.
                                      Phils will be contenders again soon...
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                                      • packerd_00
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                                        • 05-22-13
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by funnyb25
                                        Phils will be contenders again soon...
                                        Velasquez the guy they just got off of Houston has been stellar.
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                                        • funnyb25
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                                          • 07-09-09
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by packerd_00
                                          Velasquez the guy they just got off of Houston has been stellar.
                                          They got a few solid young arms, and they have a healthy offense....they just need a little more time and to gain some constancy..Big names will want to go there if they are willing to pay them
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                                          • packerd_00
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                                            • 05-22-13
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by funnyb25
                                            They got a few solid young arms, and they have a healthy offense....they just need a little more time and to gain some constancy..Big names will want to go there if they are willing to pay them
                                            Trout would be a hell of an addition to any team.
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                                            • funnyb25
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                                              • 07-09-09
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by packerd_00
                                              Trout would be a hell of an addition to any team.
                                              check out his twitter every now and then... he loves philly...lol
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                                              • funnyb25
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                                                • 07-09-09
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                                                #24
                                                It pains me to say this too....born and raised and currently reside 20 min from Angels Stadium.. long time Angels fan here... but we are wasting his prime...and with our pitching and garbage hitting, we aint going anywhere soon...so its the smart move for him to get out....
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                                                • trobin31
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                                                  • 01-09-14
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                                                  #25
                                                  Baseball is just as much about making money & marketing as it is winning, including selling tickets, primetime TV games and merchandise. Trout fulfills x, y & z. Even if you trade him and get a nice payoff of young prospects, it's unlikely they can make you the same money as trout over the long term. I agree trading Trout and even Garrett Richards is prolly best route to win in the future. But, not always about winning despite what they want you to believe.
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                                                  • funnyb25
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                                                    • 07-09-09
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                                                    #26
                                                    but im not sure that Trout would be the best for the phils with all the personal emotional investment he has there...
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                                                    • funnyb25
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                                                      • 07-09-09
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by trobin31
                                                      Baseball is just as much about making money & marketing as it is winning, including selling tickets, primetime TV games and merchandise. Trout fulfills x, y & z. Even if you trade him and get a nice payoff of young prospects, it's unlikely they can make you the same money as trout over the long term. I agree trading Trout and even Garrett Richards is prolly best route to win in the future. But, not always about winning despite what they want you to believe.
                                                      totally agree, thats why it remains a shit show
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                                                      • packerd_00
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                                                        • 05-22-13
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by funnyb25
                                                        check out his twitter every now and then... he loves philly...lol
                                                        Yeah I will mate.
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                                                        • VegasPlayer
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                                                          • 07-27-09
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by trobin31
                                                          Baseball is just as much about making money & marketing as it is winning, including selling tickets, primetime TV games and merchandise. Trout fulfills x, y & z. Even if you trade him and get a nice payoff of young prospects, it's unlikely they can make you the same money as trout over the long term. I agree trading Trout and even Garrett Richards is prolly best route to win in the future. But, not always about winning despite what they want you to believe.
                                                          Originally posted by funnyb25

                                                          totally agree, thats why it remains a shit show
                                                          Angels, Dodgers, Lakers, Clips, Duck, Kings, and Rams Soon - All capitalizing on huge SoCal market.
                                                          No need to win.
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                                                          • funnyb25
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                                                            • 07-09-09
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by VegasPlayer
                                                            Angels, Dodgers, Lakers, Clips, Duck, Kings, and Rams Soon - All capitalizing on huge SoCal market.
                                                            No need to win.
                                                            im a fan of 3 of those teams...lol
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                                                            • funnyb25
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                                                              • 07-09-09
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by funnyb25
                                                              im a fan of 3 of those teams...lol

                                                              will give you 10 betpoints if u guess the 3...i already gave you 1... i should be pro by wednesday, but will do 2 a day until then....
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                                                              • VegasPlayer
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                                                                • 07-27-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by funnyb25
                                                                im a fan of 3 of those teams...lol
                                                                Yea, I follow them cause they're all on TV here with the exception of the Dodgers
                                                                Feel like I'd be better off watching paint dry some times....
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                                                                • packerd_00
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by funnyb25
                                                                  will give you 10 betpoints if u guess the 3...i already gave you 1... i should be pro by wednesday, but will do 2 a day until then....
                                                                  Lakers and Kings.
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                                                                  • VegasPlayer
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                                                                    • 07-27-09
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Clips and Rams
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                                                                    • packerd_00
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Was I right funnyb.
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