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  • cutter341975
    SBR MVP
    • 09-09-13
    • 2306

    #1
    ATL Hawks.....are TERRIBLE..ATS..staying away from -6.5
    Hawks Suck against the spread...but I'm taking all the value I can get by taking the UNDER...for the 1st half and the Full Game....SU the Hawks are also a good value....stay away from the -6.5 ATL....perhaps consider taking BOSTON at +6.5?
  • wantitall4moi
    SBR MVP
    • 04-17-10
    • 3063

    #2
    I dont post here much anymore but wanted to say youre completely wrong.

    Hawks are 46-35-2 ATS this year and 23-12-1 ATS as a 5 or more point favorite.

    That being said I thought Boston would be the east finals representative in the finals.

    But still doesnt discount that what you said is laughably incorrect.
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    • louielouie
      SBR MVP
      • 06-06-13
      • 3149

      #3
      They were also 20 units profit ATS last year overwhelmingly the best team ATS in the league, and the best team ATS during a season for the past 10 seasons tracked -- so basically the opposite of what you just barfed onto the forum
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      • cutter341975
        SBR MVP
        • 09-09-13
        • 2306

        #4
        Originally posted by wantitall4moi
        I dont post here much anymore but wanted to say youre completely wrong.

        Hawks are 46-35-2 ATS this year and 23-12-1 ATS as a 5 or more point favorite.
        ONLINE
        04/19/2016
        12:31 AM
        [Ticket #: 256790280] PARLAY (8 TEAMS)
        04/19/2016 @ 06:15 PM NBA [524] ATL HAWKS -6.5 -110
        04/19/2016 @ 08:35 PM NBA [526] SA SPURS -18.5 -105
        04/20/2016 @ 06:05 PM NBA [528] MIA HEAT -5-105
        04/20/2016 @ 07:05 PM NBA [530] CLE CAVALIERS -10.5 -105
        04/20/2016 @ 09:35 PM NBA [532] LA CLIPPERS -8.5 -110
        04/21/2016 @ 06:05 PM NBA [533] OKC THUNDER -8-105
        04/21/2016 @ 06:35 PM NBA [535] TOR RAPTORS -1-110
        04/21/2016 @ 06:35 PM NBA [535] TOTAL o193-110
        (TOR RAPTORS vrs IND PACERS)
        3.43 658.57
        ONLINE
        04/19/2016
        05:00 PM
        [Ticket #: 256871943] STRAIGHT BET
        04/19/2016 @ 06:15 PM NBA [1524] 1H ATL HAWKS -3.5 -115
        7.30 6.35
        ONLINE
        04/19/2016
        05:01 PM
        [Ticket #: 256872057] STRAIGHT BET
        04/19/2016 @ 06:05 PM NBA [3524] 1Q ATL HAWKS -2-120
        7.62 6.35
        ONLINE
        04/19/2016
        05:01 PM
        [Ticket #: 256872183] STRAIGHT BET
        04/19/2016 @ 06:05 PM NBA [4524] 2Q ATL HAWKS -1.5 -110
        6.99 6.35
        ONLINE
        04/19/2016
        05:03 PM
        [Ticket #: 256872537] STRAIGHT BET
        04/19/2016 @ 06:15 PM NBA [524] TOTAL u206-110
        (BOS CELTICS vrs ATL HAWKS)
        8.90 8.09
        ONLINE
        04/19/2016
        05:06 PM
        [Ticket #: 256873284] STRAIGHT BET
        04/19/2016 @ 06:15 PM NBA [1524] TOTAL u99-105
        (1H BOS CELTICS vrs 1H ATL HAWKS)
        6.85 6.52
        ONLINE
        04/19/2016
        05:08 PM
        [Ticket #: 256873596] STRAIGHT BET
        04/19/2016 @ 06:05 PM NBA [6524] 4Q ATL HAWKS -1-115
        7.30 6.35
        ONLINE
        04/19/2016
        05:09 PM
        ok..
        [Ticket #: 256873772] STRAIGHT BET
        04/19/2016 @ 06:15 PM NBA [524] TOTAL u206.5 -110
        (BOS CELTICS vrs ATL HAWKS)
        4.95 4.50
        That being said I thought Boston would be the east finals representative in the finals.

        But still doesnt discount that what you said is laughably incorrect.
        ok...
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        • cutter341975
          SBR MVP
          • 09-09-13
          • 2306

          #5
          Originally posted by wantitall4moi
          I dont post here much anymore but wanted to say youre completely wrong.

          Hawks are 46-35-2 ATS this year and 23-12-1 ATS as a 5 or more point favorite.
          ok....
          That being said I thought Boston would be the east finals representative in the finals.

          here you go....
          Atlanta Hawks 48-34-0 27-14-0 21-20-0 41-39-2 21-19-1 20-20-1 38-43-1 19-22-0 19-21-1
          But still doesnt discount that what you said is laughably incorrect.
          ok.....
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          • cutter341975
            SBR MVP
            • 09-09-13
            • 2306

            #6
            Originally posted by cutter341975
            ok.....
            wait this is better....
            Straight-Up Against The Spread Over/Under
            Team Total Home Away Total Home Away Total Home Away
            Atlanta Hawks 48-34-0 27-14-0 21-20-0 41-39-2 21-19-1 20-20-1 38-43-1 19-22-0 19-21-1
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            • Ghenghis Kahn
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-02-12
              • 19734

              #7
              is that the right score? boston scored 3 points in 6 minutes? that has to be some type of playoffs record. that's hard to do...
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              • cutter341975
                SBR MVP
                • 09-09-13
                • 2306

                #8
                Originally posted by ghenghis kahn
                is that the right score? Boston scored 3 points in 6 minutes? That has to be some type of playoffs record. That's hard to do...
                awesome!
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                • NardVa
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 10-02-07
                  • 8325

                  #9
                  Celtics are done. Hawks up by 20. This time there is no come back. Hawks are gone sweep Boston. Brad Stevens is in over his head. Back to back 0-4 playoff exits.
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                  • cutter341975
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-09-13
                    • 2306

                    #10
                    Originally posted by NardVa
                    Celtics are done. Hawks up by 20. This time there is no come back. Hawks are gone sweep Boston. Brad Stevens is in over his head. Back to back 0-4 playoff exits.
                    loving my UNDER..and Quarters bets/half bets
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                    • NardVa
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 10-02-07
                      • 8325

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                      is that the right score? boston scored 3 points in 6 minutes? that has to be some type of playoffs record. that's hard to do...
                      Brad Stevens is a horrible playoff coach. 4 games last year and 2 this year have all been disaster.
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                      • louielouie
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-06-13
                        • 3149

                        #12
                        Is this a mikefan style reverse jinx thread?
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                        • lakerboy
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-02-09
                          • 94379

                          #13
                          Originally posted by NardVa
                          Brad Stevens is a horrible playoff coach. 4 games last year and 2 this year have all been disaster.
                          Really? They were pretty competitive vs the cavs last year.

                          They lost bradley. Btw boston is a shit team only looking good cause of Stevens coaching. Very few nba coaches would have gotten this squad into the playoffs.
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                          • jtoler
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 12-17-13
                            • 30967

                            #14
                            Obviously dont know what youre talking about just spouting off, you couldnt be more wrong about their ats.
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                            • cutter341975
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-09-13
                              • 2306

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jtoler
                              Obviously dont know what youre talking about just spouting off, you couldnt be more wrong about their ats.
                              Straight-Up Against The Spread Over/Under
                              Team Total Home Away Total Home Away Total Home Away
                              Atlanta Hawks 48-34-0 27-14-0 21-20-0 41-39-2 21-19-1 20-20-1 38-43-1 19-22-0 19-21-1
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                              • Booya711
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                                • 12-20-11
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                                #16
                                so many fades here
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                                • cutter341975
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-09-13
                                  • 2306

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jtoler
                                  Obviously dont know what youre talking about just spouting off, you couldnt be more wrong about their ats.
                                  it would be like flipping a coin.....
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                                  • pavyracer
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-12-07
                                    • 82840

                                    #18
                                    How does Paul Millsap's schlong feel deep in OP's ass?
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                                    • cutter341975
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-09-13
                                      • 2306

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by jtoler
                                      Obviously dont know what youre talking about just spouting off, you couldnt be more wrong about their ats.
                                      wonder if yall can even read
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                                      • cutter341975
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-09-13
                                        • 2306

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                                        I dont post here much anymore but wanted to say youre completely wrong.

                                        Hawks are 46-35-2 ATS this year and 23-12-1 ATS as a 5 or more point favorite.

                                        That being said I thought Boston would be the east finals representative in the finals.


                                        Straight-Up Against The Spread Over/Under
                                        Team Total Home Away Total Home Away Total Home Away
                                        Atlanta Hawks 48-34-0 27-14-0 21-20-0 41-39-2 21-19-1 20-20-1 38-43-1 19-22-0 19-21-1
                                        But still doesnt discount that what you said is laughably incorrect.
                                        winning 2 more games ATS than losing ATS..must be fing AWESOME!! (in ur mind)
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                                        • wantitall4moi
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-17-10
                                          • 3063

                                          #21
                                          You might want to find a better database, that one is crap even the worst one on the net is better than that one




                                          49-34 (3.58, 59.0%)
                                          42-39-2 (0.04, 51.9%) avg line: -3.5


                                          26-10 (8.97, 72.2%)
                                          21-14-1 (0.75, 60.0%) avg line: -8.2

                                          22-8 (7.60, 73.3%)
                                          17-12-1 (-0.52, 58.6%) avg line: -8.1
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                                          • cutter341975
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-09-13
                                            • 2306

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                                            You might want to find a better database, that one is crap even the worst one on the net is better than that one

                                            http://killersports.com/nba/query_matrixNBA Against the Spread Rankings at VegasInsider.com ...

                                            <cite class="_Rm" style="color: rgb(0, 102, 33); font-style: normal; font-size: 14px;">www.vegasinsider.com/nba/against-the-spread/</cite>



                                            NBA Against the Spread Rankings provided by VegasInsider.com, along with ...Atlanta Hawks, 48-34-0, 27-14-0, 21-20-0, 41-39-2, 21-19-1, 20-20-1, 38-43-1 ......thats where I got it from..if its wrong..its wrong



                                            49-34 (3.58, 59.0%)
                                            42-39-2 (0.04, 51.9%) avg line: -3.5


                                            26-10 (8.97, 72.2%)
                                            21-14-1 (0.75, 60.0%) avg line: -8.2

                                            22-8 (7.60, 73.3%)
                                            17-12-1 (-0.52, 58.6%) avg line: -8.1
                                            thats where I got it from
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                                            • cutter341975
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-09-13
                                              • 2306

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by cutter341975
                                              thats where I got it from
                                              if its wrong...fair enough
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                                              • jtoler
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                                                • 12-17-13
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by cutter341975
                                                it would be like flipping a coin.....
                                                My bad, I eat crow on this one, you are right. I was going by what guy had posted saying their ats was 46-35 when thats more like their SU record. My bad for this one, although I wouldnt call that horrible still, that means the book has them about pegged right, most teams ats are around .500, the horrible teams are usually the big public teams everyone like to bet on that are overpriced.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
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                                                  #25
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                                                  • cutter341975
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-09-13
                                                    • 2306

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jtoler
                                                    My bad, I eat crow on this one, you are right. I was going by what guy had posted saying their ats was 46-35 when thats more like their SU record. My bad for this one, although I wouldnt call that horrible still, that means the book has them about pegged right, most teams ats are around .500, the horrible teams are usually the big public teams everyone like to bet on that are overpriced.
                                                    understood..thanks for "eating crow"....I eat it often too
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                                                    • wantitall4moi
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-17-10
                                                      • 3063

                                                      #27
                                                      You need about 5 databases to have a 'fair' estimate then you have to hand check any that are 2pt or less ATS losseswins to see how the lines moved. Obviously the numbers I posted in my first response were against best available, against worst available they lose 3 or 4 games overall (from my numbers) and 2 as a 5 pt or more fav.

                                                      They are a hot action team, generally dont see that much difference from best to worst for a single team. A couple others are habitually 'bad' and Atl is one of them. Makes for some OK middle shots (but so many chances it is almost not worth it.

                                                      But even so 1 or 2 games over .500 still doesnt make them 'terrible' and in the subset of a 5 or more pt favorite you cant make them a loser ATS even with the worst possible number.

                                                      Lakers are a terrible ATS team (but they have been for 15 years), Bulls, 76ers OKC and Cle would be borderline terible.
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                                                      • cutter341975
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-09-13
                                                        • 2306

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jtoler
                                                        My bad, I eat crow on this one, you are right. I was going by what guy had posted saying their ats was 46-35 when thats more like their SU record. My bad for this one, although I wouldnt call that horrible still, that means the book has them about pegged right, most teams ats are around .500, the horrible teams are usually the big public teams everyone like to bet on that are overpriced.

                                                        BTW...best of luck to ya'..on your bets.....I'm running 3/4 on the ATL game right now...got the UNDER..the 1st quarter...and the -3.5 half....(lost the 2nd quarter)
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                                                        • jtoler
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                                                          • 12-17-13
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by cutter341975
                                                          BTW...best of luck to ya'..on your bets.....I'm running 3/4 on the ATL game right now...got the UNDER..the 1st quarter...and the -3.5 half....(lost the 2nd quarter)
                                                          Good luck Cutter, hope that parlay cashes for ya, I try to do that type thing daily myself with a couple 5 dollar bets.
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                                                          • cutter341975
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-09-13
                                                            • 2306

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by wantitall4moi
                                                            You need about 5 databases to have a 'fair' estimate then you have to hand check any that are 2pt or less ATS losses to see how the lines moved. Obviously the numbers I posted in my first response were against best available, against worst available they lose 3 or 4 games overall (from my numbers) and 2 as a 5 pt or more fav.

                                                            They are a hot action team, generally dont see that much difference from best to worst for a single team. A couple others are habitually 'bad' and Atl is one of them. Makes for some OK middle shots (but so many chances it is almost not worth it.



                                                            But even so 1 or 2 games over .500 still doesnt make them 'terrible' and in the subset of a 5 or more pt favorite you cant make them a loser ATS even with the worst possible number.
                                                            ok, "fair enough"...at basically .500 ATS..I don't feel comfortable with that....however, ATL's SU record is pretty "legit"
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                                                            • cutter341975
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-09-13
                                                              • 2306

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by jtoler
                                                              Good luck Cutter, hope that parlay cashes for ya, I try to do that type thing daily myself with a couple 5 dollar bets.

                                                              Much aprreciated!....I get "a lil excited" at times....but I am hopeful we can ALL make money (small change)...or (BIG)
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                                                              • Ballin24
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 03-06-14
                                                                • 715

                                                                #32
                                                                hawks will choke they are chokers and have been doing so all year as you saw in game 1.

                                                                Celtics +1100 ML Live is what I hit along with spread of +14.5.

                                                                They will come back OP
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                                                                • cutter341975
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-09-13
                                                                  • 2306

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Ballin24
                                                                  hawks will choke they are chokers and have been doing so all year as you saw in game 1.

                                                                  Celtics +1100 ML Live is what I hit along with spread of +14.5.

                                                                  They will come back OP
                                                                  Very nice spread!!! GL!
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                                                                  • pavyracer
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                                    • 82840

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Ballin24
                                                                    hawks will choke they are chokers and have been doing so all year as you saw in game 1.

                                                                    Celtics +1100 ML Live is what I hit along with spread of +14.5.

                                                                    They will come back OP
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                                                                    • cutter341975
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-09-13
                                                                      • 2306

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
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