Buddy Hield Draft Stock Soaring

seaborneq · 02-22-16, 07:58 PM

He is a great shooter. Probably not tall enough to play the 2. Cat quick skills. Doesn't seem uber athletic either. I've never seen the kid dunk

El Nino · 02-22-16, 10:05 PM

He's very average/below average at the NBA level. NCAAB hoops so watered down. This draft is weak. Hield comes off ball screens and can shoot the 3. He doesn't pass well, doesn't play D, doesn't create his own shot. Tweener size wise. Don't buy in, he's a black Jimmer.

DOM_Toretto · 02-22-16, 10:12 PM

I know Hield is having an impressive season, but explain to me how it's more impressive than what Valentine is doing?

Off the top of my head, it's like 25/2/5 vs 20/7/8 averages. Valentine nearing a tripple double avg and plays better defense. Valentine also plays 1/2/3 positions.

MoMoneyMoVaughn · 02-22-16, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by DOM_Toretto

I know Hield is having an impressive season, but explain to me how it's more impressive than what Valentine is doing?

Off the top of my head, it's like 25/2/5 vs 20/7/8 averages. Valentine nearing a tripple double avg and plays better defense. Valentine also plays 1/2/3 positions.

Never said it was the most impressive season. Just sayingHis draft stock has shot from a late second rounder to a likely lottery pick. While Valentine was projected to be undrafted last season, he has remained right in the middle of the first round pretty much all of this season.

DOM_Toretto · 02-22-16, 10:24 PM

MoMo you're right about the draft stocks

But everyone (espn, writers, etc) has penciled in Hield for POY, when I think it's much more of a neck-and-neck race with Denzel

t-wizzle · 02-22-16, 10:26 PM

Dom you're biased. Hield has had the better year. On top of that he didn't miss 2-3 weeks like Valentine.

MoMoneyMoVaughn · 02-22-16, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by DOM_Toretto

MoMo you're right about the draft stocks

But everyone (espn, writers, etc) has penciled in Hield for POY, when I think it's much more of a neck-and-neck race with Denzel

I agree that Hield should not be a shoe-in for POY. Valentine are Hield are easily the two best players in power conferences. Valentine's Offensive rating edges hield's by almost 3 full points. Hield has had his best games in blowouts whereas Valentine has played very strong in very close games. Not sure that should mean that much as it should be looked at in a vacuum. My guess is whoever shines more in the post season will be able to elevate themselves above the other.

funnyb25 · 02-22-16, 11:58 PM

Twizzler is correct here...cant sit out for 2-3 weeks and get POY...doesnt happen

DOM_Toretto · 02-23-16, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Dom you're biased. Hield has had the better year. On top of that he didn't miss 2-3 weeks like Valentine.

Maybe I am biased.

But explain how Hield has had the better year - other than not getting injured?

t-wizzle · 02-23-16, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by DOM_Toretto

Maybe I am biased.

But explain how Hield has had the better year - other than not getting injured?

6 more points per game and 50% from the field and from 3-point range. The missed time for Valentine seals the deal.

unde0087 · 02-23-16, 09:46 AM

Now if he could talk so anyone could understand what the fuk he is saying in his interviews

DOM_Toretto · 02-23-16, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

6 more points per game and 50% from the field and from 3-point range. The missed time for Valentine seals the deal.

With Valentine's 5 more assists per game, he is 'responsible' for at least 34 ppg while Hield would be 'responsible' for at least 29 ppg.

Buddy shooting 50% FG (49% from 3)
Denzel shooting 47% FG (45% from 3)

Buddy Assist to TO ratio of 0.7
Denzel Assist to TO ratio of 2.7

And as MoMo mentioned, Valentine has been clutch in 'big games' - kind of a subjective measurement.

El Nino · 02-23-16, 10:40 AM

Strength of Schedule is in OU's favor as well. #9th hardest in the country vs. MSU's 65th. Valentine will get votes, but Hield will win.