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  • frostno98
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    • 09-11-07
    • 9769

    #1
    Texans +3.5 verses Chiefs
    Still don't trust that game manager Alex Smith. I don't see even him doing anything against that Texans defense that is now fully solidify. The Chiefs did beat them in game 1, but the Texans are a much better team now. The Chiefs only beat two playoff teams during their 10 game winning streak, they beat the Broncos with a gimpy Manning and they beat the Steelers with Landry Jones. They have not been tested by a real playoff team in over 2 months.
  • Scorpion
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    • 09-04-05
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    #2
    Originally posted by frostno98
    Still don't trust that game manager Alex Smith..
    i dont trust him either

    hou +3.5
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    • existential
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      • 07-21-14
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      #3
      i would like the texans a lot more if they were lined +2.5 instead, concerned books are fishing for Texan money at current price
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      • R.P. McMurphy
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        • 06-15-12
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        #4
        Agree and it's still KC who haven't even won a playoff gm since we stormed Normandy I'm pretty sure KC a very tough team honestly to peg. I was absolutely spot on with these frauds couple years back with their b.s. gifted 9-0 start. But this year feels different for some reason. Yes it's an Andy Reid offense and Smith running it so about as vanilla a recipe as you can expect.

        Pretty well balanced on both sides and this defense unlike 2 years ago version everyone wanted to call the '85 Bears despite only looking good not great vs backups qb's is actually legit! Honestly haven't watched much of Houston this year I know that defense has been hot and they have a top 5 wideout in gm but KC also has Peters to counter Hopkins and should be healthier in pass rush dept this wk. It's at home and everyone taking KC so I'm thinking take the points or the under fg or 1h anyhow. Hard to either team topping 24 here at most being friendly with that probably.
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        • TwoWays
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          • 03-24-10
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          #5
          Frosty, why did u rail against posters in PT then post a pick. We are all human man. We hurt too
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          • wikkidinsane
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            • 05-30-10
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            #6
            Case Keenum bruh? NAW BRUHHHH
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            • existential
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              • 07-21-14
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              #7
              uh, Keenum plays for the Rams
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              • JayDr3am
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                • 05-06-14
                • 18260

                #8
                Originally posted by wikkidinsane
                Case Keenum bruh? NAW BRUHHHH
                wrong Quarterback... BRUH!
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                • beerman2619
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                  • 12-24-09
                  • 7752

                  #9
                  Brian Hoyer . Just don't see the texans doing much in this game. Chiefs are playing great football.
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                  • Calgunner23
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                    • 01-06-15
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                    #10
                    Anyone taking the under 40?
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                    • Goat Milk
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                      • 03-24-10
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                      #11
                      Tough game to bet

                      I'll take the Chiefs. Better defense, better offense, better special teams. If you can find a way to contain deandre hopkins the texans will struggle.

                      Chiefs are getting Justin Houston and Tamba Hali back. With Peters Eric Berry Johnson Abdullah, they have playmakers everywhere.
                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                      • grease lightnin
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                        • 10-01-12
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                        #12
                        Don't trust Smith, but trust Hoyer?
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                        • TheMoneyShot
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by existential
                          i would like the texans a lot more if they were lined +2.5 instead, concerned books are fishing for Texan money at current price
                          Game could easily land on 3. Vegas/offshore can't do anything about it. Houston +3.5 is a gift.
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                          • Goat Milk
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                            Game could easily land on 3. Vegas/offshore can't do anything about it. Houston +3.5 is a gift.
                            A gift? That means it should cover easily and you shouldn't be sweating out a 3 point loss.
                            Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                            • astro61200
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                              • 09-15-07
                              • 4843

                              #15
                              Chiefs by 9+.. You say the Texans are a lot better since week 1 but fail to mention the Chiefs are, also, a lot better.

                              You don't trust the "game manager" Alex Smith but trust the "game manager" Brian Hoyer?

                              Manning is washed up, he's done. Writing that beat down off as simply Manning being "gimpy" is laughable.

                              You say the Chiefs only beat 2 playoff teams during their 10-game winning streak but fail to mention the Texans only beat 1 playoff team the entire season (Bengals back on 11/17).

                              Also, I don't really see how you can say the Texans are much better. They did handle the Jags with no problem, but before that they got a terrible Titans team without their starting QB. The week before that they got a mediocre Colts team without their starting QB, and their backup playing "gimpy". The week before that they were steamrolled by the Patriots at home, and lost to the Bills on the road the week before that.

                              Fail to see how you write off the Chiefs because of a "game manager" QB and beating a playoff team with a "gimpy" QB but then laud the Texans who have a worse "game manager" QB and have been beating teams who are using their backup QBs.

                              Also, the Bengals have went longer without a playoff win.

                              Chiefs 23, Texans 13
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                              • frostno98
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                                • 09-11-07
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                                #16
                                And that's why the Texans will win my friend, their defense is so good they can do it with a 3rd stringer off the street. The Chiefs will be exposed, they haven't beaten real competition all season. That defense is overrated beating a bunch of scrub teams. Their best win was against Peyton playing with one leg. When Peyton had two legs the Chiefs got beat down after being up by 14 points at home.
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                                • JMon
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                                  • 12-11-09
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                                  #17
                                  Anyone looked into how teams do historically going into the playoffs on a 9+ winning streak? Trends are met to be broken, but still quite amazing.
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                                  • astro61200
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                                    • 09-15-07
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by frostno98
                                    And that's why the Texans will win my friend, their defense is so good they can do it with a 3rd stringer off the street. The Chiefs will be exposed, they haven't beaten real competition all season. That defense is overrated beating a bunch of scrub teams. Their best win was against Peyton playing with one leg. When Peyton had two legs the Chiefs got beat down after being up by 14 points at home.
                                    Your reasoning makes no sense. Every reason you give to go against KC can be said, more so, for the Texans. Very very flawed thinking. Again, you try to use the fact KC only beat 2 current playoff teams during the streak, but ignore the fact the Texans have only beaten one all season (compared to KC's 3). You ignore the fact that the Texans have beat up on all ready bad teams forced into using their backup QB's but lost to anyone above .500 over the past 2 months.

                                    The Texans may win, but using your logic is just stupid.

                                    Originally posted by JMon
                                    Anyone looked into how teams do historically going into the playoffs on a 9+ winning streak? Trends are met to be broken, but still quite amazing.
                                    Per ESPN of the last 9 teams to take a 10+ streak into the playoffs, 3 have won the Super Bowl
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                                    • Snowball
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                                      • 11-15-09
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                                      #19
                                      Either one of these teams will lose the next round
                                      without Jamaal Charles and Arian Foster it's a junk game
                                      nobody can get a good handle on it.. blackjack.
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                                      • JayDr3am
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                                        • 05-06-14
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                        Don't trust Smith, but trust Hoyer?
                                        lol well said, youre really trusting the "home dog theory" at this point..
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                                        • JayDr3am
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                                          • 05-06-14
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                                          #21
                                          hoyer is just as talented as alex smith.. yeah i said it.
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                                          • JMon
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                                            • 12-11-09
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by astro61200
                                            Your reasoning makes no sense. Every reason you give to go against KC can be said, more so, for the Texans. Very very flawed thinking. Again, you try to use the fact KC only beat 2 current playoff teams during the streak, but ignore the fact the Texans have only beaten one all season (compared to KC's 3). You ignore the fact that the Texans have beat up on all ready bad teams forced into using their backup QB's but lost to anyone above .500 over the past 2 months.

                                            The Texans may win, but using your logic is just stupid.



                                            Per ESPN of the last 9 teams to take a 10+ streak into the playoffs, 3 have won the Super Bowl
                                            This is good trivia. I only went back as far as 2003 Patriots as the last one. Who are the other two?

                                            But what I was getting at in my post is since 2003, team with a winning streak of 9+ going into the playoffs are 1-14 ATS (yet 7-8 SU). Average line going was -6.5. SU winner won on average by .13 points.

                                            Funny only one dog in this role, if someone can game the team, year, who they played and outcome = 200 points.
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                                            • Arky
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                                              • 12-09-11
                                              • 1107

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by JMon
                                              This is good trivia. I only went back as far as 2003 Patriots as the last one. Who are the other two?

                                              But what I was getting at in my post is since 2003, team with a winning streak of 9+ going into the playoffs are 1-14 ATS (yet 7-8 SU). Average line going was -6.5. SU winner won on average by .13 points.

                                              Funny only one dog in this role, if someone can game the team, year, who they played and outcome = 200 points.
                                              I think one anomaly here is that KC is coming into the wild card round with a 10 game winning streak. You would think a team with a 10 game win streak would probably be skipping the wild card round.... And that begs the question - how many teams have gone into the wild card round with an 8 (or 10) game winning streak?

                                              Don't know the answer to your question although Teddy Covers brings up a similar point in this video (skip to 2:10 if you don't want to watch the entire video). His research shows that teams having an 8 game win streak or more entering the playoffs are 0-13 ATS since 2004. So, possibly the answer to your trivia question is in the year 2003? I'll let someone else that needs the points figure it out....
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                                              • cankid
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                                                • 08-22-08
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                                                #24
                                                im looking at houston and the under, gluck this weekend and thx for posting
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                                                • hans83
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                                                  • 08-31-15
                                                  • 125

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Arky
                                                  His research shows that teams having an 8 game win streak or more entering the playoffs are 0-13 ATS since 2004. So, possibly the answer to your trivia question is in the year 2003? I'll let someone else that needs the points figure it out....
                                                  0-13? thats sick
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                                                  • blackHIPPY
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                                                    • 10-01-14
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                                                    #26
                                                    like houston as well
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                                                    • PREMOSIX
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                                                      • 01-17-12
                                                      • 477

                                                      #27
                                                      Chiefs are my best bet of weekend
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                                                      • RavensFan2k3
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                                                        • 08-18-12
                                                        • 17378

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by PREMOSIX
                                                        Chiefs are my best bet of weekend
                                                        Same. People talking about they don't trust Smith, but then bet Hoyer. Just let them lose their money
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                                                        • BayArea888
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 02-03-11
                                                          • 870

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by R.P. McMurphy
                                                          Agree and it's still KC who haven't even won a playoff gm since we stormed Normandy I'm pretty sure KC a very tough team honestly to peg. I was absolutely spot on with these frauds couple years back with their b.s. gifted 9-0 start. But this year feels different for some reason. Yes it's an Andy Reid offense and Smith running it so about as vanilla a recipe as you can expect.

                                                          Pretty well balanced on both sides and this defense unlike 2 years ago version everyone wanted to call the '85 Bears despite only looking good not great vs backups qb's is actually legit! Honestly haven't watched much of Houston this year I know that defense has been hot and they have a top 5 wideout in gm but KC also has Peters to counter Hopkins and should be healthier in pass rush dept this wk. It's at home and everyone taking KC so I'm thinking take the points or the under fg or 1h anyhow. Hard to either team topping 24 here at most being friendly with that probably.
                                                          Man was that hard to read...
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                                                          • jjgold
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                                                            • 07-20-05
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                                                            #30
                                                            Defense wins

                                                            Its a good angle
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                                                            • DavieVegas
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                                                              • 12-02-11
                                                              • 838

                                                              #31
                                                              LOL You guys don't trust Alex Smith who rarely turns the ball over but you trust Brian Hoyer with having 2 or 3 concussions already this year? LOL. I'd rather roll with the hot team here because KC is dangerous if they can score points. I think KC beats denver next also and go to the afc championship game. Has a shot to be in the super bowl if they can keep scoring points. There defense gets Tamba Hali back as well from what I am reading.
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                                                              • Booya711
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                                                                • 12-20-11
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                                                                #32
                                                                I'm all over the Chiefs here..they completely bury the Texans
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                                                                • 44 Mag
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                                  Don't trust Smith, but trust Hoyer?
                                                                  Smith does just enough to win games. They don't put the game on his shoulders, he is not Brady or Big Ben. He does pass for a lot of yardage, but he doesn't turn it over much. So his defense doesn't worry too much about him. And, he can give you something with his legs when needed. Hoyer, please, this is the ONLY team to make the playoffs using 4 different QB's.
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                                                                  • 44 Mag
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
                                                                    Same. People talking about they don't trust Smith, but then bet Hoyer. Just let them lose their money
                                                                    MY MAN !!!! Comes through. Good stuff Raven.
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                                                                    • Booya711
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      And this fukking guy is a bronco homer so he doesn't want the chiefs to win anyway....just another clown at SBR
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