Yeah because I tailed you thinking you actually knew wtf you were talking about even after I kept saying Baylor was gonna win. Fuk me right? Weren't you the same guy on MSU -3.5 this weekend as well? Too many gimmes that you're always on the wrong side of. Clemson +3.5 is a joke, as they win straight up. But do what you do.
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FlipsideRMSBR Posting Legend
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The GiantSBR Posting Legend
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#37Flipper, don't even bother arguing with Kraken.
Once he pulls out the checkmate maneuver, it's game over, motherfukker.
He hasn't gone to that move since early 2013, and the poster he used it on hasn't been heard since.
In other words, watch your back.Comment -
MoneyLineDawgSBR Posting Legend
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#38Oklahoma wins by 7+....Clemson has had a ton of trouble lately against poor ACC teams and will not be in death valley at night against a real team
Softest undefeated team I've seen in a while.....underdogs to the 4 seed for a reasonComment -
The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#39well, I guess that about wraps it up.
So, to conclude:
You come at me because I actually lost a bet, god forbid. Turns out you lost the same bet. But not only did you lose, but you tailed me. Then you come at me for losing on my MSU play. Im sure you haven't lost two plays in your life timeagain, you're very young, green behind the ears, you tail other players and you're a $10 bettor.
its probably better that you don't try and talk shit Flipper.Comment -
FlipsideRMSBR Posting Legend
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#40well, I guess that about wraps it up.
So, to conclude:
You come at me because I actually lost a bet, god forbid. Turns out you lost the same bet. But not only did you lose, but you tailed me. Then you come at me for losing on my MSU play. Im sure you haven't lost two plays in your life timeagain, you're very young, green behind the ears, you tail other players and you're a $10 bettor.
its probably better that you don't try and talk shit Flipper.Comment -
The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#41
That was in the midst of the the NBA playoffs, and Lakerboy challenged me to a capping contest. The only team I bet on or against was the OKC Thunder, and I ended up over 30 units up
And Flipper is on my ass about 6 units
Kids these days
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The GiantSBR Posting Legend
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#42i cant believe you remember that.
That was in the midst of the the NBA playoffs, and Lakerboy challenged me to a capping contest. The only team I bet on or against was the OKC Thunder, and I ended up over 30 units up
And Flipper is on my ass about 6 units
Kids these days
Dont even realize Giant that I walked uphill both waysComment -
The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#43
A lot of guys playing the "Big Game Bob" angle, but he's won a NC, nine big 12 championships, two BCS wins in the last 5 years, etc...
Baker Mayfield separates this OU team from previous years, add in those two RB's, and that gives them the edge in this game.
Their D has given up points but every D in the Big 12 gives up points, their high power offenses are going to scoreComment -
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FlipsideRMSBR Posting Legend
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#45Sorry krak, I've been way too fired up on forumville lately, winning been going to my head. We can agree to disagree on this one. Good luckComment -
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#46Flip we're good. All fams have quarrels, it probably won't be our last. You're good peeps
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The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#48Because teams don't care about BCS winsComment -
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#49Well, that was . . . stupid.Comment -
charcoalbbqSBR High Roller
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#50Its bed time kids.Comment -
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#51One year OU covers its bowl game by 30.5 against Bama and the next year OU loses its bowl game by 40.5 points ATS against Clemson, and you think motivation has nothing to do with it. Okay, it's your money.Comment -
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#53
RB Roy Finch
RB Brennan Clay
C Gabe Ikard
WR Jalen Saunders
WR Jaz Reynolds
TE Brannon Green
RG Bronson Irwin
On Defense, they lost 4/11 starters to the NFL draft
They lost 7/11 starters on offense, 4/11 starters on Defense, and you think motivation was the main factor to them getting clubbed by Clemson last yearThey lost half of their starters
Answer me this, if it was purely motivation, why did OU go 10-3 in 2013, and 8-5 in 2014? Were they unmotivated for the entire season? Or was it that they just weren't as good in 2014?
Thats what I thoughtLast edited by The Kraken; 12-07-15, 02:47 AM.Comment -
fried cheeseSBR MVP
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#54thats a weird stat to put out since a one game difference prebowl between regular seasons isnt much and can easily be variance/home advantage. they played tcu at home one year and away the next year. but they went 11-2 anyways in 2013. yes oklahoma can beat bama by 14 if they get 5 turnovers. yes they can lose to clemson by 34 when they give up 5 turnovers. to draw any conclusion from games that you have such a large turnover differential is idiotic. ill go out on a limb and say that if anyone is +5 in turnovers this year they will cover the spread.Comment -
The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#55I agree with your post and would only add that it doesn't negate what I've said, Of course Oklahoma had a +5 TO adv against Alabama and a -5 against Clemson, they were actually good in 203, and barely average in 2014 due to the fact that they lost half of their starters from 2013 to 2014. They were 11-2, my fat fingers dont type well on a phoneuComment -
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#56What does any other season have to do with this season? What Oklahoma or Clemson did a year or two years ago doesn't mean anything. Fact is Clemson has the best qb in this matchup, and it isn't close. The argument that Clemson will lose because they barely beat UNC is also dumb, at least they won all the games they were supposed to win, not drop a game to a team that was a double digit dog. Plus, if you want to go that route how about OU barely beating Baylor with their 3rd string qb, and TCU was a 2 point conversation from beating OU with 90% of their offense not even playing a snap. I waited all season for Clemson to wet the bed like they always do, FSU usually puts them away when they play and I thought for sure they would get upset down the stretch but they didnt. This should be a good game but if I was to give a team an edge I would give it to Clemson. Watson will be the best player on that field when they meet. I think he makes the plays that win it.Comment -
fried cheeseSBR MVP
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#57neither of those teams were that much better where 5 turnovers is anything but extremely lucky. the thing ou has going for them is that knight is not starting at qb anymore. but looking at the stats in the texas game they just got outplayed they werent unlucky. clemson had a much tougher schedule against starting qbs. oklahoma doesnt really have any good wins if you take out games with backup qbs. tcu woulda owned em if it was backup vs backup the whole game and their team is crap without their qb and wr (6 points better than kansas at home with equal turnovers). im taking clemson ml. but maybe the big 12 is tough we shall see.Comment -
The KrakenBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#58neither of those teams were that much better where 5 turnovers is anything but extremely lucky. the thing ou has going for them is that knight is not starting at qb anymore. but looking at the stats in the texas game they just got outplayed they werent unlucky. clemson had a much tougher schedule against starting qbs. oklahoma doesnt really have any good wins if you take out games with backup qbs. tcu woulda owned em if it was backup vs backup the whole game and their team is crap without their qb and wr (6 points better than kansas at home with equal turnovers). im taking clemson ml. but maybe the big 12 is tough we shall see.
2014 Sooners were 8-5, and lost 11 starters
yet, there wasn't much difference?
I can agree that the TO's were a result of variance, and the outcomes were influenced by those TO's, but they're also a result of one team being significantly better than the other. This years team more closely resembles the 2013 team, with a huge upgrade at QBComment -
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#59What does any other season have to do with this season? What Oklahoma or Clemson did a year or two years ago doesn't mean anything. Fact is Clemson has the best qb in this matchup, and it isn't close. The argument that Clemson will lose because they barely beat UNC is also dumb, at least they won all the games they were supposed to win, not drop a game to a team that was a double digit dog. Plus, if you want to go that route how about OU barely beating Baylor with their 3rd string qb, and TCU was a 2 point conversation from beating OU with 90% of their offense not even playing a snap. I waited all season for Clemson to wet the bed like they always do, FSU usually puts them away when they play and I thought for sure they would get upset down the stretch but they didnt. This should be a good game but if I was to give a team an edge I would give it to Clemson. Watson will be the best player on that field when they meet. I think he makes the plays that win it.Comment -
fried cheeseSBR MVP
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#602013 Sooners were 11-2
2014 Sooners were 8-5, and lost 11 starters
yet, there wasn't much difference?
I can agree that the TO's were a result of variance, and the outcomes were influenced by those TO's, but they're also a result of one team being significantly better than the other. This years team more closely resembles the 2013 team, with a huge upgrade at QB
i dont see how getting outgained by alabama and winning by 14 when you are +4 in turnovers shows that you are significantly better.Comment -
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#61
Clemson has holes too, and their offense can go to sleep sometimes, but it's a pretty evenly matched game that I would have Clemson as a slight favorite of 2.5 pts. Oklahoma is easily the most overrated club going into the playoffs. Everyone thinks they're something special, they're not. They're a good team, but that's all, and certainly they have problems. And Stoops clubs haven't exactly risen to the occasion the last 3 times they played in a national title/BCS game. In fact, they were beaten pretty handily every time.
And by the way, what "poor" ACC team did Clemson have trouble with lately? Only tight game they had in the ACC was against Louisville on the road, and that was in September. Unless you call FSU a "poor" team and a 10 pt win a "ton of trouble".Comment -
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#62Taking the points with ClemsonComment -
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#63Clemson will win this. The better team and that defense is really good. Not even second guessing. I just like winning money so taking them,better all around. Those running backs wont run all over that clemson defense and quarterback better as well.Comment -
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#64Couple things to consider
OU the better team, by a significant margin
Overrated Clemson barely beat an overated NC team
Clemson beat OU by like 45 last year in a bowl gamerevenge factor?
I say OU wins by 4, 35-31
Then they will play Alabama who they've beaten the last 3 times they've played
Boomer Sooner, bitches
Clemson is about to run into a buzzsaw
This OU team reminds me of the 2001 team that won the NC, Baker Mayfield better than Josh Heupel
OU probably has the best 1-2 running back tandem in collegw football, i wouldn't be surprised if both rush for over 100 yards against ClemsonComment -
FlipsideRMSBR Posting Legend
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#65Oklahoma's a real team? You obviously didn't watch them play a lot this year if you believe that. They are real bad in the secondary, and their offense won't be as effective against a team that can actually tackle (this isn't Oklahoma St. or Baylor or Kansas, or Texas Tech, or any of the other powder puff defenses they played). Watching them almost blow a 17 pt lead in the 4rth quarter to a near dead TCU team without their star quarterback and star receiver and going nowhere against a crippled TCU defense that everyone drives on was all I needed to see. And don't get me started on the Texas or Tennessee games.
Clemson has holes too, and their offense can go to sleep sometimes, but it's a pretty evenly matched game that I would have Clemson as a slight favorite of 2.5 pts. Oklahoma is easily the most overrated club going into the playoffs. Everyone thinks they're something special, they're not. They're a good team, but that's all, and certainly they have problems. And Stoops clubs haven't exactly risen to the occasion the last 3 times they played in a national title/BCS game. In fact, they were beaten pretty handily every time.
And by the way, what "poor" ACC team did Clemson have trouble with lately? Only tight game they had in the ACC was against Louisville on the road, and that was in September. Unless you call FSU a "poor" team and a 10 pt win a "ton of trouble".Comment -
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#68Clemson ML for me....much better defense.Comment -
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#69Here's a list of the starting Sr's OU lost from 2013 to 2014
RB Roy Finch
RB Brennan Clay
C Gabe Ikard
WR Jalen Saunders
WR Jaz Reynolds
TE Brannon Green
RG Bronson Irwin
On Defense, they lost 4/11 starters to the NFL draft
They lost 7/11 starters on offense, 4/11 starters on Defense, and you think motivation was the main factor to them getting clubbed by Clemson last yearThey lost half of their starters
Answer me this, if it was purely motivation, why did OU go 10-3 in 2013, and 8-5 in 2014? Were they unmotivated for the entire season? Or was it that they just weren't as good in 2014?
Thats what I thoughtLast edited by M.W.; 12-08-15, 12:07 AM.Comment -
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#70im taking Clem mlComment
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