Mass shooting in San Bernardino CA--up to 12 dead so far

[JIBBBY]

They are both from Pakistan descent and one was here on Viiisa.. These were Muslims and I'm sure you can only spin this attack one way even though it hasn't been stated yet.. A terrorist attack in the name of Alla, Muhammad Islamic extreme crap.... Isis is even praising them on the internet for this attack.

Glad they were both shot and killed.. They had a crazy arsenal though.. Dammn!!!

[pimike]

Remember guys Global Warming and no jobs are the reason this activity happened yesterday.








oh wait this prick had a job, actually a decent job... That theory dead.

Oh wait it has to be just global warming then. REALLY some people will believe anything. Its time people understand there are evil people in this world and to make excuses for there evil only emboldens them.

If we have to cure Global Warming first I can assure you the radicals will take over the country first. Global Warming is a theory, Global Terrorism is a fact.

wake up people!

[ACoochy]

Guys, even after telling him he's on ignore (and him knowing i cant read what he is saying) this is the mentality we are dealing with here...

Nuff said

[ACoochy]

Remember guys Global Warming and no jobs are the reason this activity happened yesterday.








oh wait this prick had a job, actually a decent job... That theory dead.

Oh wait it has to be just global warming then. REALLY some people will believe anything. Its time people understand there are evil people in this world and to make excuses for there evil only emboldens them.

If we have to cure Global Warming first I can assure you the radicals will take over the country first. Global Warming is a theory, Global Terrorism is a fact.

wake up people!

I don't get it mikey...

I mean scientists go to university and train in their field of expertise for several years in the same way a doctor does but do we ever dismiss what the doctor tells us about our health??

We all know what can happen if we ignore our GP's advice (ie we get sicker). Same thing is applying to earth at present ie its getting warmer.

And just think how much methane and carbon dioxide the perma frosts will release once the ice melts in the arctic?

I hear its a 50% rise in both but hey because we cant see it then of course it doesn't exist right??

People are so selective in hearing what they want to hear.

[DwightShrute]

[Mr KLC]

I don't get it mikey...

I mean scientists go to university and train in their field of expertise for several years in the same way a doctor does but do we ever dismiss what the doctor tells us about our health??

We all know what can happen if we ignore our GP's advice (ie we get sicker). Same thing is applying to earth at present ie its getting warmer.

And just think how much methane and carbon dioxide the perma frosts will release once the ice melts in the arctic?

I hear its a 50% rise in both but hey because we cant see it then of course it doesn't exist right??

People are so selective in hearing what they want to hear.

I heard the opposite of this in the 70's with the settled science of a new Ice Age around the corner. Then the 80's brought the dawn of the chlorofluorocarbons. Then the 90's brought full scale global warming. Then the 2000's brought climate change. Excuse me while I become "skeptical".

[ACoochy]

My point is you and brokedick fukk point whore Janitor Jayvegas in these threads flaming, trolling, and offering zero solutions every time something like this happens

Seems like you're always on the edge of your chair hoping the perpetrators are the fat white trash KKK dumbfukk 0.5% of Americans that euros relish stereotyping every US citizen as

White, black, blue, green, Christian, Muslim, etc it is all just as fukked up and needs to stop

Guns are an issue here but there is no black and white solution...only gray. Banning guns completely won't work, and things certainly can't remain the same

You seem like a fairly intelligent guy but the constant flaming gets old

Hey, you wanted multiculturalism pal you got multiculturalism...

Nobody said it would be a smooth transition but you lot were sold on the $$$ and skills a lot of these people bought in in the beginning (same as my country but we were smart in banning high powered weapons and monitoring the rest).

Only reason the gun debate is grey is because people choose it to be. Everyone has an agenda but surely Obama has a mechanism where he can override congress (didn't Bush jnr do that a couple of times I believe for Iraq or something similar??) and begin changes that would help restore civil cohesion??

Or does that only apply in times of war?? Ironic cos you are at war with yourselves at present...

Its sad to say but almost anything is a better solution than the current situation...

Mass murders EVERY DAY...Nobody can say that's an acceptable outcome...

[brooks85]

"Mass murders EVERY DAY...Nobody can say that's an acceptable outcome..."

or a true one.. lol

Remember guys Global Warming and no jobs are the reason this activity happened yesterday.








oh wait this prick had a job, actually a decent job... That theory dead.

Oh wait it has to be just global warming then. REALLY some people will believe anything. Its time people understand there are evil people in this world and to make excuses for there evil only emboldens them.

If we have to cure Global Warming first I can assure you the radicals will take over the country first. Global Warming is a theoryponzi scheme, Global Terrorism is a fact.

wake up people!

there we go, that's better

[brooks85]

I don't get it mikey...

I mean scientists go to university and train in their field of expertise for several years in the same way a doctor does but do we ever dismiss what the doctor tells us about our health??

We all know what can happen if we ignore our GP's advice (ie we get sicker). Same thing is applying to earth at present ie its getting warmer.

And just think how much methane and carbon dioxide the perma frosts will release once the ice melts in the arctic?

I hear its a 50% rise in both but hey because we cant see it then of course it doesn't exist right??

People are so selective in hearing what they want to hear.

lol I knew it and as I said exactly why he is incapable of understanding why he is wrong. This very logic here; just like an untrained child.

[ACoochy]

I heard the opposite of this in the 70's with the settled science of a new Ice Age around the corner. Then the 80's brought the dawn of the chlorofluorocarbons. Then the 90's brought full scale global warming. Then the 2000's brought climate change. Excuse me while I become "skeptical".

Because we knew as much then as we do now right and progress is probably just a fallacy in your eyes

Be sceptical all you want. The proof is in the numbers and they say the earth is the hottest its ever been since records began...

[JIBBBY]

364 mass shootings reported in the US in this last year.. 4 or more people shot and killed is considered a mass shooting.. That's a mass shooting every day here in America.. This is not good...

Global warming is real but like guns I think little can be done.. I guess We'll all freeze in an ice age or get shot in a mass shooting one day. Make preparations now gents..

[Mr KLC]

Hey, you wanted multiculturalism pal you got multiculturalism...

Nobody said it would be a smooth transition but you lot were sold on the $$$ and skills a lot of these people bought in in the beginning (same as my country but we were smart in banning high powered weapons and monitoring the rest).

Only reason the gun debate is grey is because people choose it to be. Everyone has an agenda but surely Obama has a mechanism where he can override congress (didn't Bush jnr do that a couple of times I believe for Iraq or something similar??) and begin changes that would help restore civil cohesion??

Or does that only apply in times of war?? Ironic cos you are at war with yourselves at present...

Its sad to say but almost anything is a better solution than the current situation...

Mass murders EVERY DAY...Nobody can say that's an acceptable outcome...

"Anything is better than what we have now." "We have to do something." I hear this every day for years. "Thing" is a very generic word. We say that our candidates need to give specific plans. Well, its about time our president did the same "thing".

[brooks85]

Because we knew as much then as we do now right and progress is probably just a fallacy in your eyes

Be sceptical all you want. The proof is in the numbers and they say the earth is the hottest its ever been since records began...

lol

364 mass shootings reported in the US in this last year.. 4 or more people shot and killed is considered a mass shooting.. That's a mass shooting every day here in America.. This is not good...

Global warming is real but like guns I think little can be done.. I guess We'll all freeze in an ice age or get shot in a mass shooting one day. Make preparations now gents..

when you got some proof let us know. Until then you sound ridiculous and no offense but a sucker considering it is a fact global warming is a made up ponzi scheme.

[Mr KLC]

Because we knew as much then as we do now right and progress is probably just a fallacy in your eyes

Be sceptical all you want. The proof is in the numbers and they say the earth is the hottest its ever been since records began...

And 30 years from today, we'll know more than we know now. Will science tell us then that it is settled that oxygen is a pollutant that will blow up the Earth if we build too many campfires? The thing is we have had settled science for my entire lifetime that changes every decade. I'll move from "skeptical to "bullshit".

[ACoochy]

"Anything is better than what we have now." "We have to do something." I hear this every day for years. "Thing" is a very generic word. We say that our candidates never give a specific plan. Well, its about time our president did the same "thing".

That's because you've chosen to become so numb to these kinds of human tragedies that its just "business as usual" when in reality most of the developed world is almost nothing like this...

Don't you find it at least a little ironic that the constitution is helping destroy the very society upon which it intended to build??

[Mr KLC]

This is the question I've always had about the "climate change" theory. What is the actual average temperature that the planet is supposed to be at, and please give me a 50 year time span that the stewards of this Earth have kept it exactly at that temperature with no fluctuation.

[Mr KLC]

That's because you've chosen to become so numb to these kinds of human tragedies that its just "business as usual" when in reality most of the developed world is almost nothing like this...

Don't you find it at least a little ironic that the constitution is helping destroy the very society upon which it intended to build??

I don't attribute it to the Constitution. I attribute it more to the change in family and social values over the last century.

[ACoochy]

And 30 years from today, we'll know more than we know now. Will science tell us then that it is settled that oxygen is a pollutant that will blow up the Earth if we build too many campfires? The thing is we have had settled science for my entire lifetime that changes every decade. I'll move from "skeptical to "bullshit".

If not for progress you wouldn't have the nice cars you drive today. The nice house you live in. A life expectancy that's more than 10 years older than what it was 30 years ago. Why you choose not to highlight those traits but choose others??

Selective processing is inhibitive to growth KLC man and you seem like a smart guy...

We all cant be bible/koran thumpers to take to a machine gun when someone does something to progress the whole that we don't agree with...

People who take that stuff literally are a greatest threat to global safety than global warming (and I like the fact you use the word global warming instead of climate change. Keeping it real. I respect that)...

[daneblazer]

Guys firedaround 75 shots at cops...cops fired back 350 rounds at them

[JIBBBY]

Going wiki on ya.. Global Warming - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

I don't think we would be having world summit meetings on Global Warming if it was all complete bullshit..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_U...nge_Conference Just my take...

The global population is growing and polluting more then ever before.. China is a waste tank that is polluting... Those toxins only go up into our atmosphere.. Common sense fellas tells us something has to give eventually.. I think it's a good idea to cut back on polluting anyway if possible, I see no harm in that... I'm not driving a Prius or hugging a tree either.. Just common sense..

Climate change is real and has been proven just for the record.... Ice caps are melting faster then ever.. Proven..

[JIBBBY]

Guys firedaround 75 shots at cops...cops fired back 350 rounds at them

Superior fire power works every time...

[ACoochy]

This is the question I've always had about the "climate change" theory. What is the actual average temperature that the planet is supposed to be at, and please give me a 50 year time span that the stewards of this Earth have kept it exactly at that temperature with no fluctuation.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GISSTemperature/giss_temperature2.php

Down the bottom of the page is where the most up to date data begins over a 120 year period since 1880.

Look at it for yourself. There's been a sharp increase since 1980. That's NASA saying this too...

Im sure if you ask any citizen of a small island nation that's been wiped out because of melting ice and rising sea levels they'll tell you its all made up as well...

[ACoochy]

Going wiki on ya.. Global Warming - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming

I don't think we would be having world summit meetings on Global Warming if it was all complete bullshit..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_U...nge_Conference Just my take...

The global population is growing and polluting more then ever before.. China is a waste tank that is polluting... Those toxins only go up into our atmosphere.. Common sense fellas tells us something has to give eventually.. I think it's a good idea to cut back on polluting anyway if possible, I see no harm in that... I'm not driving a Prius or hugging a tree either.. Just common sense..

Climate change is real and has been proven just for the record.... Ice caps are melting faster then ever.. Proven..

China and India but at least even they are beginning to admit that it exists and are producing greenhouse emission reduction targets.

Did you see Beijing recently after several days where they shutdown industry for the national celebrations of the communist party??

The air actually looked clean and you could see for miles whereas ordinarily its covered in a thick dense smog...

Was amazing to see the transformation and benefit to environment that just a few days of not using coal could do...

[Mr KLC]

If not for progress you wouldn't have the nice cars you drive today. The nice house you live in. A life expectancy that's more than 10 years older than what it was 30 years ago. Why you choose not to highlight those traits but choose others??

Selective processing is inhibitive to growth KLC man and you seem like a smart guy...

We all cant be bible/koran thumpers to take to a machine gun when someone does something to progress the whole that we don't agree with...

People who take that stuff literally are a greatest threat to global safety than global warming (and I like the fact you use the word global warming instead of climate change. Keeping it real. I respect that)...

There is advancement, I'll give you that. We've gone from telegraph, to radio, to TV, to Cable, to Internet. The advancement in the medical field is quite real in life expectancy (as you stated), and in procedures we could have never dreamed of. The climate is totally different though. These scientists have been all over the board from one side of the spectrum to the other, and I guarantee you they will have a new theory in 10 years which will be settled again in their eyes then.

[Mr KLC]

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Fea...mperature2.php
Down the bottom of the page is where the most up to date data begins over a 120 year period since 1880.

Look at it for yourself. There's been a sharp increase since 1980. That's NASA saying this too...

Im sure if you ask any citizen of a small island nation that's been wiped out because of melting ice and rising sea levels they'll tell you its all made up as well...

That doesn't answer my question. What is the actual temperature supposed to be? How do we know that maybe the Earth has been cooler than it should have been, and its just now going back toward its normal temperature now? Why is the temperature going up higher now when we have better technology to supposedly keep it low? If progress is so important, I would think that we would have seen a higher uptick in the early 1900's than today.

[ACoochy]

There is advancement, I'll give you that. We've gone from telegraph, to radio, to TV, to Cable, to Internet. The advancement in the medical field is quite real in life expectancy (as you stated), and in procedures we could have never dreamed of. The climate is totally different though. These scientists have been all over the board from one side of the spectrum to the other, and I guarantee you they will have a new theory in 10 years which will be settled again in their eyes then.

I agree with all but that last bit as credible scientists have pretty much been in unison in their opinions of global warming for the past 35 years or so now but hey maybe they will realise that they've been using the wrong instrumentaion or something and that their data is corrupt.

The longer time goes on though the more id doubt that...

[ACoochy]

That doesn't answer my question. What is the actual temperature supposed to be? How do we know that maybe the Earth has been cooler than it should have been, and its just now going back toward its normal temperature now? Why is the temperature going up higher now when we have better technology to supposedly keep it low? If progress is so important, I would think that we would have seen a higher uptick in the early 1900's than today.

Sounds like your throwing darts...

Just asked the Pacific island nations who had been around for thousands of years before the concept of global warming had been conceived...

Now where are they? Oh that's right underwater...

[Grits n' Gravy]

Why does Saudi Arabia always get a pass when this shit happens. They are the money men and behind the scenes people helping extremist groups get big. Oh I almost forgot....we do too much business with them. What's some dead people when there are dollars to be made? Look at the bigger picture people.

[ACoochy]

Why does Saudi Arabia always get a pass when this shit happens. They are the money men and behind the scenes people helping extremist groups get big. Oh I almost forgot....we do too much business with them. What's some dead people when there are dollars to be made? Look at the bigger picture people.

Gritzer gets it

[Slick Lizard]

A ban on firearms will never work here. I don't care which way you slice it up, it will never work. I consider myself an honest, law abiding American but if someone comes for my guns, they will meet the business end of them. I will not give up my guns because the real criminals that intend harm will not give theirs up and I will be left defenseless. If the government ever decides to forcibly take the firearms of its citizens, a civil war will erupt and taking the weapons by force is the only way you will be sure to rid the country of them.

I want just one of you geniuses who think a ban on guns will work to explain how to get it done.

[GunShard]

A ban on firearms will never work here. I don't care which way you slice it up, it will never work. I consider myself an honest, law abiding American but if someone comes for my guns, they will meet the business end of them. I will not give up my guns because the real criminals that intend harm will not give theirs up and I will be left defenseless. If the government ever decides to forcibly take the firearms of its citizens, a civil war will erupt and taking the weapons by force is the only way you will be sure to rid the country of them.

I want just one of you geniuses who think a ban on guns will work to explain how to get it done.

I like to see a state vote for a ban on guns but people who already own guns can keep their current guns. You just can't buy any new guns after this law passes.

How Colorado and Washington voted for legalized marijuana. I like to see a state ban guns and see how the murder rate adjusts.

[JIBBBY]

A ban on firearms will never work here. I don't care which way you slice it up, it will never work. I consider myself an honest, law abiding American but if someone comes for my guns, they will meet the business end of them. I will not give up my guns because the real criminals that intend harm will not give theirs up and I will be left defenseless. If the government ever decides to forcibly take the firearms of its citizens, a civil war will erupt and taking the weapons by force is the only way you will be sure to rid the country of them.

I want just one of you geniuses who think a ban on guns will work to explain how to get it done.

Stricter gun laws is where it's at and not taking away guns could work.. For example:

1) If you are in possession of any firearm and it's not registered, you automatically get 5 years in prison period..

2) If you're a felon in possession of a firearm for any reason you get 20 years in prison period..

3) A firearm used and not fired in any crime you automatically get LIFE in prison with parole..

4) You use a fire arm in a crime you get life without parole or death..

I'd be on board with that in every State.. Might make the criminals, terrorists and thugs think twice before packing or purchasing an illegal fire arm.. Stiffer guns laws in every State would certainly help...

[ACoochy]

I like to see a state vote for a ban on guns but people who already own guns can keep their current guns. You just can't buy any new guns after this law passes.

How Colorado and Washington voted for legalized marijuana. I like to see a state ban guns and see how the murder rate adjusts.

Only way you'll ever get that is at a federal level.

At least then the states would have little choice BUT to fall into line...

As the saying goes there is no I in TEAM...

[jjgold]

The loser Obama talking about gun control and not terrorism

He continues to protect Muslims

[JIBBBY]

The loser Obama talking about gun control and not terrorism

He continues to protect Muslims

Agreed I don't like that about Obama at all... Call a spade a spade Obama..