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  • dontknowhowtobet
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    #1
    NBA = Stock Market [Why the NBA is rigged with proofs]
    • Yesterday the total line between Clippers and Detroit went down before the game to 196.5 and the game ended with 197 points exactly.
    • Also yesterday the total line between Houston and Dallas was 207.5 before the game end it ended with 208 points.
    • Also yesterday the total line between Golden State and Brooklyn was 207.5 and it ended with 206 points.
    • The total line between Toronto and Sacramento tonight was 208.5 and the game ended with 208 points.
    • The total line between Utah and Atlanta tonight was 192 and the game ended with 193 points.
    • In the 4th quarter between LA Lakers and Detroit the total line was 182.5 and the game ended with 182 points.


    What does it tell you?
    It tells you the NBA is rigged, it's not played naturally (but artificially) and technically betting on the NBA is the same as buying/selling stocks - which is not a bad thing - but just keep in mind somebody "controls" the outcome of the game.
  • A4K
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    • 10-08-12
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    #2
    Ahhhhhhh ha ha ha ha. Linesmakers use models to predict totals. You just happened to find a few games, in a short time span, where the game fell close to the number.

    Do some refs have biases? Absolutely, but to say it's completely rigged is laughable.
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    • jjgold
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      • 07-20-05
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      #3
      unreal

      great for middles if you can be lucky
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      • FlipsideRM
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        • 09-28-11
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        #4
        Also yesterday the total between Memphis-Minnesota was 192 and ended 220.
        Also yesterday the total between Pelicans-Knicks was 204 and ended 182.
        also yesterday the total between Celtic s-thunder was 212 and ended 185.
        also January 22nd 1985 the total between the Seattle sonics and Orlando Magic was 195 and ended 167
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        • dontknowhowtobet
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          #5
          Originally posted by FlipsideRM
          Also yesterday the total between Memphis-Minnesota was 192 and ended 220.
          Also yesterday the total between Pelicans-Knicks was 204 and ended 182.
          also yesterday the total between Celtic s-thunder was 212 and ended 185.
          also January 22nd 1985 the total between the Seattle sonics and Orlando Magic was 195 and ended 167
          When you try to make something rigged you don't make it 100% rigged, think about it.
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          • dontknowhowtobet
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            #6
            Originally posted by A4K
            You just happened to find a few games, in a short time span, where the game fell close to the number.
            6 out of 13 games within less than 48 hours - that's just not a sample...
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            • A4K
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              #7
              Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
              6 out of 13 games within less than 48 hours - that's just not a sample...
              Take a basic statistics course.
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              • unde0087
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                • 03-27-08
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                #8
                Dontknow, you need a break man, you are starting to freak us out
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                • dontknowhowtobet
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by unde0087
                  Dontknow, you need a break man, you are starting to freak us out
                  You don't need to be worried or freak out, I'm just spilling out the truth, there's nothing wrong with that.
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                  • TheMoneyShot
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                    • 02-14-07
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                    #10
                    It sucks when you aren't on the right side of the rig.

                    The most helpless feeling ever.

                    Like drowning.
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                    • existential
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                      • 07-21-14
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                      #11
                      you're not betting again are you?
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                      • Naz18
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                        • 09-10-09
                        • 4277

                        #12
                        Haha this guy is a clown....

                        Refs may have an influence in the games, but that has nothing to do with the actual point total. It would be pretty hard for them to get near the exact point total.
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                        • dontknowhowtobet
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by TheMoneyShot
                          It sucks when you aren't on the right side of the rig.

                          The most helpless feeling ever.

                          Like drowning.
                          Originally posted by existential
                          you're not betting again are you?
                          I'm not betting and not drowning ...
                          I just mentioned the facts above as part of observation I made on the NBA.
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                          • dontknowhowtobet
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Naz18
                            Haha this guy is a clown....

                            Refs may have an influence in the games, but that has nothing to do with the actual point total. It would be pretty hard for them to get near the exact point total.
                            So how do you explain this?

                            In the 4th quarter between LA Lakers and Detroit the total line was 182.5 and the game ended with 182 points.
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                            • unde0087
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
                              So how do you explain this?

                              In the 4th quarter between LA Lakers and Detroit the total line was 182.5 and the game ended with 182 points.
                              The refs can't make players miss shots or make shots. Like other people have said, yes they could influence a game by calling more fouls to help an over but they can't do it by themselves, you are talking about every player, every ref, every coach in those games coming together to hit an exact number? Conspiracy runs deep in this one it does
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                              • dontknowhowtobet
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by unde0087
                                The refs can't make players miss shots or make shots. Like other people have said, yes they could influence a game by calling more fouls to help an over but they can't do it by themselves, you are talking about every player, every ref, every coach in those games coming together to hit an exact number? Conspiracy runs deep in this one it does
                                Look here:

                                Play-by-play action for the Los Angeles Lakers vs. Detroit Pistons NBA game from November 15, 2015 on ESPN.


                                Andre Drummond loose ball foul (Roy Hibbert draws the foul) - 7 seconds remaining.

                                It's a difference of 10 freaking points (95-85), where is the need to foul coming from really?
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                                • FlipsideRM
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                                  • 09-28-11
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
                                  So how do you explain this?

                                  In the 4th quarter between LA Lakers and Detroit the total line was 182.5 and the game ended with 182 points.
                                  lol...how do we explain this? Books threw up a LIVE total on how the pace/game was being played and you have no other explanation than to say it's rigged because the LIVE line was correct? Not to mention that the total was no where near the original closing total that books put out.....

                                  saloon this shit
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                                  • dontknowhowtobet
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                    lol...how do we explain this? Books threw up a LIVE total on how the pace/game was being played and you have no other explanation than to say it's rigged because the LIVE line was correct? Not to mention that the total was no where near the original closing total that books put out.....

                                    saloon this shit
                                    Sir,
                                    Unlike you I am very persistent with the way I follow up on the NBA.
                                    You want a super proof that it's rigged? Here you go - watch this with the video:

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                                    • frugalgambler
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                                      #19
                                      Christ, have you actually watched a game in your life ? I can hardly imagine an idiot like Drummond receiving secret signals from the refs that he should foul at this precise moment, and then Hibbert or whoever the f.ck he fouled actually making both FTs on purpose. Anyhoo, there are plenty other conspiracy theories that are more likely to be true. E.g. you might be actually a product of an error in a humanoid assembly line, no offense intended. Or maybe none of this world is real, and you are living in a dream of a multidimensional supercomputer. Pick one, and don't forget a tinfoil hat.
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                                      • mikewlgm
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                                        • 04-04-15
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                                        #20
                                        completely rigged.....I don't believe that but I don't buy for a second that there hasn't been rigged games etc

                                        Does anyone believe Tim Donaghy was the only one?



                                        Sports gambling expert R. J. Bell, president of sports betting information site Pregame.com, tracked every game Donaghy worked from 2003 to 2007. He discovered that during the two seasons investigated by the NBA, the teams involved scored more points than expected by the Las Vegas sports books 57% of the time. In the previous two seasons, this only happened 44% of the time. According to Bell, the odds of such a discrepancy are 1 in 1,000, and there was "a 99.9% chance that these results would not have happened without an outside factor". He also found 10 straight games in 2007 in which Donaghy worked the game that the point spread moved 1.5 points or more before the tip—an indication that big money had been wagered on the game. The big money won every time—another indication that "something (was) going on". However, Bell suggested that there was no way anyone who wasn't in on the fix could have known that something was amiss about Donaghy's actions during a game; he said it would have been another year at the earliest before anyone could have caught on


                                        Thats nothing to laugh at if you bet on the nba
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                                        • FlipsideRM
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                                          • 09-28-11
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
                                          Sir,
                                          Unlike you I am very persistent with the way I follow up on the NBA.
                                          You want a super proof that it's rigged? Here you go - watch this with the video:

                                          http://www.gamblingstories.com/topic...ised-gamblers/
                                          So because the lakers made a layup with 3 seconds left when Dallas had won the game and didn't care to play defense the NBA is rigged. I've heard it all now...


                                          saloon this shit
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                                          • frugalgambler
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                                            • 05-30-13
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                                            #22
                                            Sure, some NBA games can be fixed, and some games probably have and will be fixed, but not in the way that dude described. This particular dude is nuts.
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                                            • mikewlgm
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                                              • 04-04-15
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                              So because the lakers made a layup with 3 seconds left when Dallas had won the game and didn't care to play defense the NBA is rigged. I've heard it all now...


                                              saloon this shit
                                              Hahahaha flipside shut the F**k up and go pick more losers
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                                              • dontknowhowtobet
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                                So because the lakers made a layup with 3 seconds left when Dallas had won the game and didn't care to play defense the NBA is rigged. I've heard it all now...


                                                saloon this shit
                                                You're underestimating what happened there.
                                                Monta Ellis purposely lef the clock with a few seconds on, his teammate is asking on TV if we shouldn't guard and he says no and then all Dallas players just let this guy from the Lakers to score.

                                                You need to watch the video in that link - anyone who watches it would tell you it's rigged ... I can suggest to saloon your BS, because this proof is definitely not one.
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                                                • dontknowhowtobet
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                                  Sure, some NBA games can be fixed, and some games probably have and will be fixed, but not in the way that dude described. This particular dude is nuts.
                                                  Of course not all 100% of the games are rigged/fixed, and those are the types of games you might want to bet on actually.
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                                                  • mikewlgm
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                                                    • 04-04-15
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
                                                    You're underestimating what happened there.
                                                    Monta Ellis purposely lef the clock with a few seconds on, his teammate is asking on TV if we shouldn't guard and he says no and then all Dallas players just let this guy from the Lakers to score.

                                                    You need to watch the video in that link - anyone who watches it would tell you it's rigged ... I can suggest to saloon your BS, because this proof is definitely not one.
                                                    Flip side should saloon his account
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                                                    • FlipsideRM
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                                                      • 09-28-11
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by dontknowhowtobet
                                                      You're underestimating what happened there.
                                                      Monta Ellis purposely lef the clock with a few seconds on, his teammate is asking on TV if we shouldn't guard and he says no and then all Dallas players just let this guy from the Lakers to score.

                                                      You need to watch the video in that link - anyone who watches it would tell you it's rigged ... I can suggest to saloon your BS, because this proof is definitely not one.
                                                      Dude the shot clock was 3 seconds before the game clock. Most teams don't attempt a shot there...he didn't PUREPOSELY leave seconds on the clock, the shot clock ran out. And how do you know that's what the players were saying to each other lmao? Are you a lip reader when not losing money gambling?

                                                      You lost your wager on Dallas so it's gotta be rigged right? Saloon this shit
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                                                      • mikewlgm
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                                        Dude the shot clock was 3 seconds before the game clock. Most teams don't attempt a shot there...he didn't PUREPOSELY leave seconds on the clock, the shot clock ran out. And how do you know that's what the players were saying to each other lmao? Are you a lip reader when not losing money gambling?

                                                        You lost your wager on Dallas so it's gotta be rigged right? Saloon this shit
                                                        Don't be mean to floppy or he will block you like a b*tch....just FYI
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                                                        • frugalgambler
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                                                          #29
                                                          So you actually think the players are discussing with each other the projected total/ATS and who should score next in the garbage time ? Interesting. Don't forget your tinfoil hats.
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                                                          • FlipsideRM
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                                                            • 09-28-11
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                                            So you actually think the players are discussing with each other the projected total/ATS and who should score next in the garbage time ? Interesting. Don't forget your tinfoil hats.
                                                            Lmfao, seriously. Probably talking about what bitches they're going to fuk after the game not the 7.5 point spread
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                                                            • frugalgambler
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                                                              #31
                                                              Let's try be logical about this. What is the point of getting the actual total to be so close to the projected line ? If a game is fixed, would not you want to leave a cushion for your winning bet ?

                                                              Also, have you actually heard of statistics ? Or is this some mumbo-jumbo word for you ?
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                                                              • dontknowhowtobet
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                                                You lost your wager on Dallas so it's gotta be rigged right? Saloon this shit
                                                                News flash - I didn't have any bet on this game! (I said it myself in the link but I don't blame you if you can't bother reading it all, TLDR etc. etc.).
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                                                                • dontknowhowtobet
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                                                  So you actually think the players are discussing with each other the projected total/ATS and who should score next in the garbage time ? Interesting. Don't forget your tinfoil hats.
                                                                  Apparantely Monta Ellis did care a lot about the spread, he was also the one in charge of the ball all the times.
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                                                                  • mikewlgm
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by frugalgambler
                                                                    Let's try be logical about this. What is the point of getting the actual total to be so close to the projected line ? If a game is fixed, would not you want to leave a cushion for your winning bet ?
                                                                    Thats a good point
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                                                                    • frugalgambler
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Lotsa players try to score in garbage time to pad their stats. Deal with it or stop betting on spreads above ~5-6 points.
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