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  • rpesi9955
    SBR MVP
    • 08-08-15
    • 1536

    #36
    Pats crush fins by 10 + my money says so.
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    • JameisBrady
      SBR MVP
      • 03-15-15
      • 1023

      #37
      Originally posted by survive
      Aren't you the one who said Cubs/Astros World Series was a great "value" bet? Guess you're not afraid to throw money away either...
      they both won their respective play-in games. You furious or nah?
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      • FlipsideRM
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 09-28-11
        • 10518

        #38
        You guys Are all dummies. Since when do the pats blow the fins out in any game, any year? These games are always close and dolphins usually win 1 of the match ups per year lately. This will be within 10 points the whole game, take the points. Sprinkle the moneyline
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        • thebestthereis
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-01-09
          • 11459

          #39
          Originally posted by FlipsideRM
          Better rbs, better overall WRs, d-line, special teams. Obviously the huge xfactor is Brady...
          Very true, for almost every team in the league vs New England. How has that gone the past decade? People will never get it.
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          • eaglesfan15
            SBR High Roller
            • 10-26-15
            • 204

            #40
            Originally posted by FlipsideRM
            You guys Are all dummies. Since when do the pats blow the fins out in any game, any year? These games are always close and dolphins usually win 1 of the match ups per year lately. This will be within 10 points the whole game, take the points. Sprinkle the moneyline
            I don't want to be an ass but the Dolphins aren't going to win unless Jesus shows up to coach them this weekend. Don't quite know why that's in your head on the ML. May as well take that money and flush it down the toilet. If you really want to put money on Dolphins try to find it at -8.
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            • FlipsideRM
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-28-11
              • 10518

              #41
              Originally posted by eaglesfan15
              I don't want to be an ass but the Dolphins aren't going to win unless Jesus shows up to coach them this weekend. Don't quite know why that's in your head on the ML. May as well take that money and flush it down the toilet. If you really want to put money on Dolphins try to find it at -8.
              Can you tell me the difference between +7.5 and +8 please, and why I should be searching to find 8? You make no sense.
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              • gauchojake
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 09-17-10
                • 34116

                #42
                If you don't know why 8 is better than 7.5 please watch This is Spinal Tap.
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                • FlipsideRM
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 09-28-11
                  • 10518

                  #43
                  Originally posted by gauchojake
                  If you don't know why 8 is better than 7.5 please watch This is Spinal Tap.
                  It's not better lol. 7 yes, 7.5 there is absolutely no difference unless you think the pats are going for 2 each time.

                  lets hear your reasoning
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                  • eaglesfan15
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 10-26-15
                    • 204

                    #44
                    Are you seriously asking why its better..? Why do I need to explain reasoning, its pretty clear cut...lol but let me put 2 and 2 together for you.

                    Several kickers have missed PAT's this year, why is that so unbelievable that it couldn't happen in Rainy conditions on a thursday night in NE? It may not be much difference but it certainly is one that half point has messed up quite a few of my friends in the past.

                    Look at it this way, if FINS are down 14 and score a TD and miss field goal its at 8. Poof, thanks for coming out better luck next time.
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                    • FlipsideRM
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 09-28-11
                      • 10518

                      #45
                      Originally posted by eaglesfan15
                      Are you seriously asking why its better..? Why do I need to explain reasoning, its pretty clear cut...lol but let me put 2 and 2 together for you since you can't yourself.

                      Several kickers have missed PAT's this year, why is that so unbelievable that it couldn't happen in Rainy conditions on a thursday night in NE? It may not be much difference but it certainly is one that half point has messed up quite a few of my friends in the past.

                      Look at it this way, if FINS are down 14 and score a TD and miss field goal its at 8. Poof, thanks for coming out better luck next time.
                      Lmfao oh god
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                      • eaglesfan15
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 10-26-15
                        • 204

                        #46
                        I'm not a huge fan of your ''I can't be wrong" tone in your postings which is why I got a little smart on the last post, but let me go ahead and ask if you were such a big fan of this play why the hell didn't you grab it when it was +9 up to +10 on some books? Another genius move right there.

                        ''Lets hear your reasoning''
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                        • blackHIPPY
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-01-14
                          • 3973

                          #47
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                          • survive
                            SBR MVP
                            • 01-08-11
                            • 2388

                            #48
                            Originally posted by JameisBrady
                            they both won their respective play-in games. You furious or nah?
                            Nah just pointing out how you're a hypocritical troll
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                            • RavensFan2k3
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 08-18-12
                              • 17378

                              #49
                              Originally posted by TheSchafe
                              Classic overreaction line. Pats by double digits.
                              It does feel exactly like that
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                              • rpesi9955
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-08-15
                                • 1536

                                #50
                                Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                Can you tell me the difference between +7.5 and +8 please, and why I should be searching to find 8? You make no sense.
                                I was really trying to understand this myself? 7.5-8 isn't that the same.........
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                                • POOLSIDE
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-06-14
                                  • 2839

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                  You guys Are all dummies. Since when do the pats blow the fins out in any game, any year?
                                  The last time these teams played, it was 41-13 Patriots. But you're right, they haven't blown them out since then.

                                  28-0, 27-17, 41-13. Those are the final scores of the last three Pats/Fins games in Foxboro.
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                                  • rpesi9955
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-08-15
                                    • 1536

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by eaglesfan15
                                    Are you seriously asking why its better..? Why do I need to explain reasoning, its pretty clear cut...lol but let me put 2 and 2 together for you.

                                    Several kickers have missed PAT's this year, why is that so unbelievable that it couldn't happen in Rainy conditions on a thursday night in NE? It may not be much difference but it certainly is one that half point has messed up quite a few of my friends in the past.

                                    Look at it this way, if FINS are down 14 and score a TD and miss field goal its at 8. Poof, thanks for coming out better luck next time.
                                    I understand the point just do not get the reasoning? Good luck to all.
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                                    • POOLSIDE
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-06-14
                                      • 2839

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                      It's not better lol. 7 yes, 7.5 there is absolutely no difference unless you think the pats are going for 2 each time.

                                      lets hear your reasoning
                                      I just won on Monday night with Arizona -7.5 and they won by 8. So yes, there is a difference.
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                                      • paco
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 05-07-09
                                        • 62873

                                        #54
                                        Pats are going undefeated
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                                        • DOM-Ganador
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 05-30-12
                                          • 4479

                                          #55
                                          Pats allowed 2 soft 4Q backdoor covers in a row.
                                          If you HAVE to bet this game, taking 8 or more seems like the more likely outcome.

                                          ML would have to be +1000 for me to put a centavo on it.
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                                          • DOM-Ganador
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-30-12
                                            • 4479

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by paco
                                            Pats are going undefeated
                                            PACO my friend.....

                                            I know the schedule allows for that possibility, just don`t see any team that is 14-0 , and locked into playoff position running the table.
                                            Last time they did it, it didn`t work out too well.
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                                            • JameisBrady
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-15-15
                                              • 1023

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by survive
                                              Nah just pointing out how you're a hypocritical troll
                                              not really...comparing a +6300 bet containing implied winners for the wildcard play-in games that had also not been played yet versus a +300 dead wager betting on the Patriots to lose at home....I essentially gave the board 2 winners while OP is giving 0 with the phins ML bet. You're not too bright.


                                              Originally posted by DOM-Ganador
                                              Pats allowed 2 soft 4Q backdoor covers in a row.
                                              If you HAVE to bet this game, taking 8 or more seems like the more likely outcome.

                                              ML would have to be +1000 for me to put a centavo on it.
                                              statistically, you would need the ML to be around +1500 for it to be EV
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                                              • eaglesfan15
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 10-26-15
                                                • 204

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by rpesi9955
                                                I understand the point just do not get the reasoning? Good luck to all.
                                                not sure if troll or...?

                                                17 teams have missed PAT's this year. Please don't tell me it's not viable to happen in some games.

                                                Regardless since he was so high on this play taking it at 7.5 was a horrible decision lmao. It was +10 in some places come Monday? If your going to go with something risky take it at the peak points. I'll geek if Pats when by like 8-10 lol.
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                                                • FlipsideRM
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-28-11
                                                  • 10518

                                                  #59
                                                  Line never was more than 8 at 5Dimes of heritage, this is my team i was looking for lines right when popped. and there's no difference between 7.5 and 8 unless you want to play the "what if they miss an extra point down 14" game.

                                                  sit back and watch the fins cover boys. Good luck to ya.
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                                                  • eaglesfan15
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 10-26-15
                                                    • 204

                                                    #60
                                                    Well the line was definitely went higher than 8 elsewhere, did you have the option to buy the half point? I'm just not getting it man. I'm not trying to be an ass anymore lol I don't care in just saying.

                                                    Best of Luck to you. I've got Pats teased to +5 and I'm considering ML as well.
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                                                    • FlipsideRM
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-28-11
                                                      • 10518

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by eaglesfan15
                                                      Well the line was definitely went higher than 8 elsewhere, did you have the option to buy the half point? I'm just not getting it man. I'm not trying to be an ass anymore lol I don't care in just saying.

                                                      Best of Luck to you. I've got Pats teased to +5 and I'm considering ML as well.
                                                      No dude why the penetrate would I buy a half point when the line is already above 7. Something's not clicking in your brain. 8 is not a penetrating key number, maybe in Mars or Pluto but I'm not buying off 7.5. Jesus everyone here is dumb as a box of rocks I swear.

                                                      Let me put it to you in laymen terms since u do not understand. ANYTHING ABOVE 7 IS GOOD IN THIS GAME.
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                                                      • survive
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-08-11
                                                        • 2388

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by JameisBrady
                                                        not really...comparing a +6300 bet containing implied winners for the wildcard play-in games that had also not been played yet versus a +300 dead wager betting on the Patriots to lose at home....I essentially gave the board 2 winners while OP is giving 0 with the phins ML bet. You're not too bright.
                                                        Your +6300 was a dead wager too man...you could've just taken both teams to win their play in game without losing the World Series prop, like me.
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                                                        • LittleLarryY
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 09-13-11
                                                          • 122

                                                          #63
                                                          For what it's worth, I actually see this game as a close one and I agree that -4 is a good line for this game.

                                                          With that being said, there is absolutely no way in hell I'd throw down on a MIA ML.

                                                          Good luck.
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                                                          • LittleLarryY
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 09-13-11
                                                            • 122

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by survive
                                                            Your +6300 was a dead wager too man...you could've just taken both teams to win their play in game without losing the World Series prop, like me.
                                                            Guys, you're both right.

                                                            +6300 was good value at the time. If they both win the play-in games then the value drops significantly.
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                                                            • eaglesfan15
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 10-26-15
                                                              • 204

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                                              No dude why the penetrate would I buy a half point when the line is already above 7. Something's not clicking in your brain. 8 is not a penetrating key number, maybe in Mars or Pluto but I'm not buying off 7.5. Jesus everyone here is dumb as a box of rocks I swear.

                                                              Let me put it to you in laymen terms since u do not understand. ANYTHING ABOVE 7 IS GOOD IN THIS GAME.
                                                              Your dumber than I thought kid. You buy the extra .5 because what is it an extra -20? That extra bit you pay which isn't sh.. could be the difference between a winner and a loser It's not about it being extremely unlikely, it's about you increasing your chance to win while only slightly decreasing your payout.


                                                              And how do you say 8 isn't a possible number dummy. Did you watch the Monday night game? Your not too bright up there mathematically or on the gambling side so maybe you won't understand this post.
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                                                              • FlipsideRM
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 09-28-11
                                                                • 10518

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by eaglesfan15
                                                                Your dumber than I thought kid. You buy the extra .5 because what is it an extra -20? That extra bit you pay which isn't sh.. could be the difference between a winner and a loser It's not about it being extremely unlikely, it's about you increasing your chance to win while only slightly decreasing your payout.


                                                                And how do you say 8 isn't a possible number dummy. Did you watch the Monday night game? Your not too bright up there mathematically or on the gambling side so maybe you won't understand this post.
                                                                Man youre obviously new. There's things called KEY numbers in betting football. The original line is already adding the .5 to the KEY NUMBER of 7!! Which means I cover if they win by a touchdown. Games landing on 8 almost virtually never happens.

                                                                I get what you are trying to say but you dont understand the key number factors. If this line was Miami +7, I might buy the half to get to +7.5, but since I'm already there, there is no point of me buying off 7.5.

                                                                Do you get it yet?
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                                                                • paint777
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 10-28-15
                                                                  • 3

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Miami has not proved anything yet...
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                                                                  • LittleLarryY
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 09-13-11
                                                                    • 122

                                                                    #68
                                                                    What is it? Something like 3.5% of games end in an 8 point margin? I think your OK with the +7.5 Flip. With that being said, you are sticking to your guns a little to hard on this one. I wouldn't say you should necessarily buy it to 8, but you should have shopped for +8.
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                                                                    • FlipsideRM
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-28-11
                                                                      • 10518

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by LittleLarryY
                                                                      What is it? Something like 3.5% of games end in an 8 point margin? I think your OK with the +7.5 Flip. With that being said, you are sticking to your guns a little to hard on this one. I wouldn't say you should necessarily buy it to 8, but you should have shopped for +8.
                                                                      What im saying is the 8 is penetrating irrelevant. If I lose this bet it won't be landing on 8, it will be by double digits.

                                                                      Like you just said 3.5% it lands on 8, non factor. if the slim chance it lands on 8 so be it, i'm not paying -125 for it when im already holding 7.5, stupid.
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                                                                      • LittleLarryY
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 09-13-11
                                                                        • 122

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                                                        What im saying is the 8 is penetrating irrelevant. If I lose this bet it won't be landing on 8, it will be by double digits.

                                                                        Like you just said 3.5% it lands on 8, non factor. if the slim chance it lands on 8 so be it, i'm not paying -125 for it when im already holding 7.5, stupid.
                                                                        It is 3.5% relevant. Or roughly 1 in 30. Or roughly 1 every two weeks of games. So, it happens.

                                                                        I'm definitely with you though, the juice isn't worth it. Again, you should be just fine at 7.5.

                                                                        Good luck man. I like the Fins +7.5. I cannot endorse the ML pick though. Please reconsider.
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