How FantasyGate Differs from Bookies betting at other Sportsbooks

[SBR Natalie]

How FantasyGate Differs from Bookies betting at other Sportsbooks


Interesting report. What do you lot make of the recent fantasy sports betting scandal? What I want to know is HOW has the DraftKings employee not lost his job over this ordeal, is it because the company would look even worse that this flew under their radar?

[shaunovery]

Differs a huge deal , I'd rather be a bookie than a fantasy player , in bookmaking you know the lines being punted and can bet accordingly , but in fantasy just because you can see % of players picked doesn't mean you know what's happening on the field ,

[daneblazer]

"Use the promo code: fukk"- ghenghis

[Optional]

The loss of confidence could be enough to seriously stunt the whole sector.

[SBR Natalie]

Differs a huge deal , I'd rather be a bookie than a fantasy player , in bookmaking you know the lines being punted and can bet accordingly , but in fantasy just because you can see % of players picked doesn't mean you know what's happening on the field ,

Of course a fair amount of luck necessary but are you suggesting the DraftKings employee did not have a huge advantage over the rest of the field?

[SBR Natalie]

The loss of confidence could be enough to seriously stunt the whole sector.

That's what I'm thinking. Why bother playing against a diluted field when you at least know where you stand trying to beat a bookie on a straight up wager or wagers?

[Trident]

The loss of confidence could be enough to seriously stunt the whole sector.

In the first half of the 2015 MLB season, 91 percent of DFS player profits were won by just 1.3 percent of players.

Sooner or later the smaller players are going to wake up and realize they are getting fleeced.

[daneblazer]

Problem is everyone thinks they are good at fantasy sports.

Shitty poker players have been getting fleeced and paying rake for years and that hasn't stopped them from playing, redepositing, and thinking they are great.

[Vegas39]

Problem is everyone thinks they are good at fantasy sports.

Shitty poker players have been getting fleeced and paying rake for years and that hasn't stopped them from playing, redepositing, and thinking they are great.

Thats it they see the commercials claiming average Joe won millions and think they will

[High3rEl3m3nt]

Stakes are too huge and many sport markets need DFS to be relevant. What they should realize is that they need gamblers too. This is not going anywhere and DFS players are addicted to the action every bit as much as we are. They have more highs and lows because they have stakes in so many different games and even the games they aren't involved in, because you are fading players as much as you are hoping that yours get the job done.

[Goat Milk]

That's what I'm thinking. Why bother playing against a diluted field when you at least know where you stand trying to beat a bookie on a straight up wager or wagers?

What advantage did he have, I don't get it?

Frequently before fanduel games, I call out pretty accurately the % of players that will take that player. Last week, I told my friends that Karlos Williams would be the highest owned player by far. It's also pretty easy to call which guys are not going to be owned much (like less than 5%) because people that play fanduel and draftkings are knee jerk reactors. They look to see who did well the previous weeks and they also look at stats (as in X team gives up the most points to TEs and then they will select that TE).

Pretty simple to anticipate the %'s if you ask me...

[High3rEl3m3nt]

It's DFS and sports gamblers that are going to tune into a minny twolves game against the knicks. The rest of the country could care less.

[Vegas39]

It's DFS and sports gamblers that are going to tune into a minny twolves game against the knicks. The rest of the country could care less.

So thats who watches Leafs/ Coyote games

[TheMoneyShot]

Fantasy is the perfect option for the wannabee sportsaholic.

Everyone knows in the business world... when you market something... you're going to get the die hards naturally. The key is converting the indecisive player to donate to your business. FD DK has already accomplished this goal.

If you can't convert that indecisive player to donate to your business... your business won't go anywhere fast.



As to this "inside job"...... it was eventually going to happen.

[High3rEl3m3nt]

yep, it's us and them lol.

People play the lottery and know that they have zero shot. People aren't going to change their behavior once they experienced DFS and got their gamble on, insider trading or not.

Let's hope that DFS is the "gateway drug" that I think it is.

[sshz]

Here's the low down as it's being reported:

The employee that won the $350,000 had an advantage because he could see what % of people played on certain players i.e. Julian Eddleman was on 31% of every ticket making him a "no play" because so many people used him. It's been analyzed that the big winners win because they are using 2-4 players on a ticket that happen to have great games and are on fewer than 1% (or even less) of the overall entries. It's a huge advantage to know such things ahead of time.

I pulled all my money out of DK yesterday....they asked why and I straight out told them. The N.Y. General Attorney has given both DK and FD til 10/15 (I think) to report all employee winnings are both sites. That's when the shit will REALLY hit the fan......

[High3rEl3m3nt]

People weren't detoured by high stakes players that roll out 100's of lineups and crushed it.

[Chong Wizard]

Forget being able to see the percentages... They can also see the line ups of the top 1% of winning players on their site... Just have to copy them.

[Auto Donk]

and do not think for a minute this is the first time these f'n scammers have done this....

sshz hits it on the head as to why it is such a huge advantage to pick a contrarian player or two who's apt to put up big numbers vs. the horse everyone else is riding on..........

[jjgold]

fantasy for suckers

Please stamp it on your head if you play

[Vegas39]

fantasy for suckers

Please stamp it on your head if you play

really no different than those people that buy lottery tickets each week

[Goat Milk]

Here's the low down as it's being reported:

The employee that won the $350,000 had an advantage because he could see what % of people played on certain players i.e. Julian Eddleman was on 31% of every ticket making him a "no play" because so many people used him. It's been analyzed that the big winners win because they are using 2-4 players on a ticket that happen to have great games and are on fewer than 1% (or even less) of the overall entries. It's a huge advantage to know such things ahead of time.

I pulled all my money out of DK yesterday....they asked why and I straight out told them. The N.Y. General Attorney has given both DK and FD til 10/15 (I think) to report all employee winnings are both sites. That's when the shit will REALLY hit the fan......

But aren't those (rough) percentages pretty obvious pre-game? It's just common sense....

[Goat Milk]

Isn't it pretty obvious that roughly 30% of fan duel will take Leveon Bell this week on MNF against the Chargers? I mean I can almost guarantee that it will be around 30%....

[ericool007]

never won a single dollar at FD or DK's something seemed fishy about it i think you would have better chance playing slots.

[jjgold]

never won a single dollar at FD or DK's something seemed fishy about it i think you would have better chance playing slots.

yes

[JoeyBagels]

No!

[combination lock]

If I was a bookie I would never kick out winning players

[Ra77er]

Does anyone have that employees number? I think we have time to get at least one more week in there thanks in advance!

[Goat Milk]

Does anyone have that employees number? I think we have time to get at least one more week in there thanks in advance!

just name the player and i'll give you a rough percentage. seriously.

[combination lock]

So what if they "ban employees" from playin.... they'll jus sign their buddies up! Haha

[jjgold]

basically your at a massive disadvantage like the stock market

all the insiders make money off the suckers

Do not be a sucker

[Optional]

just name the player and i'll give you a rough percentage. seriously.

That might be easy but can you name 2 or 3 players with only 1% ownership that might score ok?

[shaunovery]

Of course a fair amount of luck necessary but are you suggesting the DraftKings employee did not have a huge advantage over the rest of the field?

Yes agreed a unfair advantage , but still no guarantee of winning

[Optional]

Yes agreed a unfair advantage , but still no guarantee of winning

Doesn't need to be a guaranteed winner each week but how much edge is needed to consistently scoop profits out of the system without much real long term risk of losing?

Not a big edge needed I'd guess.

[shaunovery]

Doesn't need to be a guaranteed winner each week but how much edge is needed to consistently scoop profits out of the system without much real long term risk of losing?

Not a big edge needed I'd guess.

Everyone looking for a edge