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  • Ra77er
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 06-20-11
    • 10969

    #36
    Originally posted by trobin31
    If I'm manager of Texas Rangers you MUST Start Yvonni Gallardo in the first game.

    2015 vs Toronto Blue Jays: 2-0; era 0.0000000; whip 0.805

    I believe at least 1 of those starts occurred in Toronto.

    If Texas can take game 1, they will clearly have the upper hand with Hamels in game 2. Then back to Texas possibly up a game or two. Bheurle sucks late in the season. He will get rocked. Estrada sucks period and was beneficiary of 5 run leads after 2 innings most games. He will get rocked. Dickey, who the fuk knows. I would take Holland and Perez any day over those 3 gas-bags. Maybe even colby lewis as rhp could have some success vs Jays. I don't think this is as slam dunk for the Jays as one might think.


    Good post, I see they are going with Gallardo GM 1
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    • I'm_Lucky
      SBR High Roller
      • 01-16-09
      • 143

      #37
      I'm not an expert in baseball, but as a lifelong Jays fan who has attended several games & watched pretty much every televised games this year, I'd advise anyone thinking of taking the Jays at a series price of -235 to seriously reconsider.

      Jays are a fastball hitting team... they struggle against pitchers who have a variety of pitches that mix it up, those who have late movement, and what baseball people like to refer to as "backward pitchers." This is the exact reason why Gallardo has had great success against the Jays this year: 2-0, 0.00 ERA. Essentially, the Jays can't hit against pitchers like Tanaka, Estrada, Ryu, etc. Hamels could easily win one for Texas as well. Lastly, Dickey will most likely be starting Game 3 and I don't trust that guy in any game... kunckleballers are an enigma, and quite honestly, I always worry when Dickey is on the mound cause I don't know which Dickey is going to show up - the guy that throws 8 scoreless innings giving up 4 hits, or the guy that gives up 6 runs in 1 inning.

      Should the Jays be favored in the series? Absolutely. But not at a price of -235... it's absurd and quite comical they are priced this high. If I wasn't rooting for the Jays, I'd probably make a small play on Texas. I'm hoping the Jays move onto the ALCS, but more importantly, I'm hoping Jacoby spent a great deal of time with the players in the film room on how to approach backward pitchers for the post-season.

      Just my 2 cents
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      • Regul8er
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-06-07
        • 10666

        #38
        Originally posted by KANSAS24
        TEXAS CAN HIT WITH THE BEST OF THEM,MARK MY WORD
        But hitting wise, Toronto is the best...and Texas doesnt hit with them. 😜
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        • mngambler
          SBR MVP
          • 08-01-11
          • 2890

          #39
          As already stated the series price is ridiculous, not worth -235...bet this one game by game
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #40
            Forget it

            Texas cannot win


            Minor league pitchers


            Overs a must
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            • Nick_U
              SBR Sharp
              • 08-26-11
              • 284

              #41
              This will be a close series. I'm a jays fan, and have made a TON of money on them this year. But I also kniw how good the Texas rangers are. Gallardo has the jays number as well, Texas might actually win game one. Also.... For you guys saying the rangers struggle against lefties, are you kidding me? They have smashed lefties ALL year, are you even watching? They lead in the league in runs against lefty pitching. Jays win in 5 is my guess.
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              • thetrinity
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-25-11
                • 22430

                #42
                Originally posted by jjgold
                Forget it

                Texas cannot win



                Minor league pitchers


                Overs a must
                all toronto fans right now
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                • hans83
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 08-31-15
                  • 125

                  #43
                  Toronto will kill hamels, Encarnacion 2 home runs, Donaldson 1 home run
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                  • PorkChop
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-18-08
                    • 8193

                    #44
                    I wouldnt so quick writing off Texas here.

                    Lineup can go hit for hit with Toronto, If Texas takes 1 from Price; they win series
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                    • Albert Poo Holes
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 06-30-15
                      • 75

                      #45
                      Game one decides a lot. If Gallardo can get a quality start (which he has done twice against toronto this year), best bullpen in AL second half of season, then world series MVP gets ball in game 2 against a righty who has made 4 starts this season. Then you go back to arlington where the rangers have been dominating. Lot of playoff experience and fight in rangers. All in all dont see why jays would be -235. Think a lot of the jays but these are probably the 2 best teams in the AL
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                      • KANSAS24
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-28-09
                        • 2492

                        #46
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        Forget it

                        Texas cannot win


                        Minor league pitchers


                        Overs a must
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                        • PorkChop
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-18-08
                          • 8193

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Albert Poo Holes
                          Game one decides a lot. If Gallardo can get a quality start (which he has done twice against toronto this year), best bullpen in AL second half of season, then world series MVP gets ball in game 2 against a righty who has made 4 starts this season. Then you go back to arlington where the rangers have been dominating. Lot of playoff experience and fight in rangers. All in all dont see why jays would be -235. Think a lot of the jays but these are probably the 2 best teams in the AL

                          Yup. It really comes down to Game 1. If Texas wins game 1, odds will drop right to even money on both side if not Texas -105/-115ish to win series.

                          Might as well take them +235 now.
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                          • NardVa
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-02-07
                            • 8325

                            #48
                            Forget the series bet, take Texas for game 1. Same value.
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                            • dalogester
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-02-13
                              • 1088

                              #49
                              Jays vs royals. Both teams are superior
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                              • rattlemonkey
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 08-20-11
                                • 106

                                #50
                                Makes way more sense to take them at -230 for first game. And if they lose, since you think they win series, get a better value on series bet. Imo.
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                                • l7ustin
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-09-08
                                  • 3914

                                  #51
                                  all of you people saying texas has no chance are the same clowns saying they couldnt even get the 2nd wild card. guess what bitches? they won the al west
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                                  • lakerboy
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 04-02-09
                                    • 94379

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                    Texas in 3 games

                                    Thanks
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                                    • dalogester
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-02-13
                                      • 1088

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by lakerboy
                                      Thanks
                                      Omg we have a prophet!!! Didn't realize winning the first game means you won the series. Welp better take that money and parlay the next game gayboy.
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                                      • KANSAS24
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-28-09
                                        • 2492

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by KANSAS24
                                        TEXAS CAN HIT WITH THE BEST OF THEM,MARK MY WORD
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                                        • Ra77er
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 06-20-11
                                          • 10969

                                          #55
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                                          • pavyracer
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 04-12-07
                                            • 82727

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                            Toronto hasn't won a playoff game for 22 years. Texas is battle tested and with a superior coach. I see them with the advantage on a 50/50 series.
                                            2-0 Texas
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                                            • AribaAriba
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-03-09
                                              • 2922

                                              #57
                                              The fa gooot jinxed my team. Great job bud for pickig a -235 fav.
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                                              • alamo
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 02-21-09
                                                • 7131

                                                #58
                                                Jays have been awful.
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                                                • knucklecurve
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 09-09-15
                                                  • 79

                                                  #59
                                                  and they are favored in game 3
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                                                  • Luckycharms2012
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-07-12
                                                    • 2422

                                                    #60
                                                    I don't care what anyone says but STEVENASH, you are the biggest kiss of death on SBR. Jinxed my team with your bullshit.
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #61
                                                      These games can go either way

                                                      It comes down to big hits and they cannot get any
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                                                      • dfish
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-17-10
                                                        • 2730

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by I'm_Lucky
                                                        I'm not an expert in baseball, but as a lifelong Jays fan who has attended several games & watched pretty much every televised games this year, I'd advise anyone thinking of taking the Jays at a series price of -235 to seriously reconsider.

                                                        Jays are a fastball hitting team... they struggle against pitchers who have a variety of pitches that mix it up, those who have late movement, and what baseball people like to refer to as "backward pitchers." This is the exact reason why Gallardo has had great success against the Jays this year: 2-0, 0.00 ERA. Essentially, the Jays can't hit against pitchers like Tanaka, Estrada, Ryu, etc. Hamels could easily win one for Texas as well. Lastly, Dickey will most likely be starting Game 3 and I don't trust that guy in any game... kunckleballers are an enigma, and quite honestly, I always worry when Dickey is on the mound cause I don't know which Dickey is going to show up - the guy that throws 8 scoreless innings giving up 4 hits, or the guy that gives up 6 runs in 1 inning.

                                                        Should the Jays be favored in the series? Absolutely. But not at a price of -235... it's absurd and quite comical they are priced this high. If I wasn't rooting for the Jays, I'd probably make a small play on Texas. I'm hoping the Jays move onto the ALCS, but more importantly, I'm hoping Jacoby spent a great deal of time with the players in the film room on how to approach backward pitchers for the post-season.

                                                        Just my 2 cents
                                                        You should post more often
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                                                        • KANSAS24
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-28-09
                                                          • 2492

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                                          These games can go either way

                                                          It comes down to big hits and they cannot get any
                                                          GO BACK AND READ YOUR EARLIER POST
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                                                          • KANSAS24
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-28-09
                                                            • 2492

                                                            #64
                                                            ITS ALL OVER NOW TEXAS WILL MOVE ON
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                                                            • Shortstop
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 01-02-09
                                                              • 27281

                                                              #65
                                                              Not looking good!!!


                                                              Perhaps the Jays will win 3 straight???
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                                                              • lakerboy
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-02-09
                                                                • 94379

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by dalogester
                                                                Omg we have a prophet!!! Didn't realize winning the first game means you won the series. Welp better take that money and parlay the next game gayboy.

                                                                what was that loser?
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                                                                • str
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-12-09
                                                                  • 11720

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by I'm_Lucky
                                                                  I'm not an expert in baseball, but as a lifelong Jays fan who has attended several games & watched pretty much every televised games this year, I'd advise anyone thinking of taking the Jays at a series price of -235 to seriously reconsider.

                                                                  Jays are a fastball hitting team... they struggle against pitchers who have a variety of pitches that mix it up, those who have late movement, and what baseball people like to refer to as "backward pitchers." This is the exact reason why Gallardo has had great success against the Jays this year: 2-0, 0.00 ERA. Essentially, the Jays can't hit against pitchers like Tanaka, Estrada, Ryu, etc. Hamels could easily win one for Texas as well. Lastly, Dickey will most likely be starting Game 3 and I don't trust that guy in any game... kunckleballers are an enigma, and quite honestly, I always worry when Dickey is on the mound cause I don't know which Dickey is going to show up - the guy that throws 8 scoreless innings giving up 4 hits, or the guy that gives up 6 runs in 1 inning.

                                                                  Should the Jays be favored in the series? Absolutely. But not at a price of -235... it's absurd and quite comical they are priced this high. If I wasn't rooting for the Jays, I'd probably make a small play on Texas. I'm hoping the Jays move onto the ALCS, but more importantly, I'm hoping Jacoby spent a great deal of time with the players in the film room on how to approach backward pitchers for the post-season.

                                                                  Just my 2 cents

                                                                  Here is my 2 cents.

                                                                  Your post is a breath of fresh air.

                                                                  Not because you are right or wrong, we don't know yet. It's because it is solid reasoning and fact.

                                                                  Both of those are rare around here.
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                                                                  • stevenash
                                                                    Moderator
                                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                                    • 65461

                                                                    #68
                                                                    As I stated in the Blue Jay in-game thread yesterday, I thought Texas had next to no chance of beating Toronto because I thought Texas's pitching wasn't deep enough.

                                                                    So, I thought I'd drop by to say it looks like I was way off on Texas Ranger pitching (and I've seen enough Texas games this season)

                                                                    I also said I can not lay -235, and even though I did consider using Toronto in parlays, I did not, so I don't mind being wrong this time.

                                                                    Good luck Ranger fans
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                                                                    • KRIT
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-11-14
                                                                      • 12878

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Price will always blow in the postseason.
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                                                                      • L.A
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 10-10-15
                                                                        • 42

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Toronto couldn't find their rhythm whole game tbh, Texas took advantage of it. -235 (for the series) for Blue Jays looking like a mirage now.
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