Browns -2.5 +102

**Kermit** · 09-15-15, 09:11 AM

So it doesn't matter to you who the starting QB for the Browns will be on Sunday?

**RavensFan2k3** · 09-15-15, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by Kermit

So it doesn't matter to you who the starting QB for the Browns will be on Sunday?

Nothing matters to him

**jjgold** · 09-15-15, 09:21 AM

horrible

cleve looking at 3-13

they have nothing

If Johnny football plays all year they go 0-16

**cankid** · 09-15-15, 09:33 AM

gl this week

**lakerboy** · 09-15-15, 09:43 AM

Originally posted by Kermit

So it doesn't matter to you who the starting QB for the Browns will be on Sunday?

No.

**Vegas39** · 09-15-15, 09:46 AM

should of waited think this goes to a pk once Manziel announced as starter

**jjgold** · 09-15-15, 09:46 AM

maybe lakerboy knows more than us??

**t-wizzle** · 09-15-15, 10:23 AM

Knew you'd be on this haha. Good luck bro.

**7secondsOrLess** · 09-15-15, 10:32 AM

ok 5 units this time, but it's only week 2

**thebestthereis** · 09-15-15, 11:50 AM

good spot for the browns. i will wait and get points because laying -2.5 is not a good thing. the only way the browns lose is if they shoot themselves in the foot, which they always do since the beginning of time. pass. god speed.

**Vegas39** · 09-15-15, 12:05 PM

Now Titans -1 at most places

**TheMoneyShot** · 09-15-15, 12:06 PM

Can't trust a sh#$ team like Cleveland.

**kmarinouofm** · 09-15-15, 12:13 PM

see the sharp in me whats to agree with you laker..

i look at the board and both St Louis -3 and tenn +2.5 just stood out so much that they have to be traps.. but i have a feeling both will win anyway

**actiondan** · 09-15-15, 12:15 PM

Is this an air bet or a real bet?

**lakerboy** · 09-15-15, 12:16 PM

I make pick. Entire universe fades me. Lol.

Mariota won't repeat game 1.

**Vegas39** · 09-15-15, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

I make pick. Entire universe fades me. Lol.

Mariota won't repeat game 1.

Maybe not but have more trust in him having a solid day over Manziel

**lakerboy** · 09-15-15, 12:19 PM

Who is browns backup?

**Vegas39** · 09-15-15, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Who is browns backup?

would be Austin Davis

**thebestthereis** · 09-15-15, 12:22 PM

why is money on browns (which i like here) vs broncos or pats laying zero points? two best qbs in nfl history? lol

**kmarinouofm** · 09-15-15, 12:24 PM

Don't really like the board this week..

my leans so far are

1pm
Atlanta over 51
San Diego over 45
tenn over 41

4pm
Miami -6

Monday Night
Jets + 7

**Vegas39** · 09-15-15, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by kmarinouofm

Don't really like the board this week..

my leans so far are

1pm
Atlanta over 51
San Diego over 45
tenn over 41

4pm
Miami -6

Monday Night
Jets + 7

Like Saints/ Bucs over

**texhooper** · 09-15-15, 12:30 PM

universe is fading, tennessee favored now.

however browns winning is the kind of stupid shit that tends to happen in the nfl.

**ezeblazin** · 09-15-15, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by thebestthereis

the only way the browns lose is if they shoot themselves in the foot,

Okay that is a bit of a stretch. Last year when these two teams played it took a 25 point 2nd half comeback for the Browns to win. And that was a Titans team led by Jake Locker and Charlie Whitehurst. The Titans appear to be better in just about every facet of the team this year. Mariota looks to possibly already be better than any QB on the Titans last year. Maybe in the last decade. Are the Browns better at all than last year? I certainly don't think Manziel is an upgrade over Hoyer. At least not yet.

Not saying this is a guaranteed Titans win or anything. The Browns could certainly win... But I don't see what makes them the better of the two teams.

**Vegas39** · 09-15-15, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by texhooper

universe is fading, tennessee favored now.

however browns winning is the kind of stupid shit that tends to happen in the nfl.

figured line would flip when Johnny had to start

**lakerboy** · 09-15-15, 12:36 PM

Other plays

Colts -6.5-110(6x)

Bears ml +105(2x)

Eagles -5.5 -110(6x)

Bengals -3.5+106(2x)

**lakerboy** · 09-15-15, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

Like Saints/ Bucs over

Big move on that total. Careful

**dmiles1021** · 09-15-15, 12:47 PM

now its a pick em, and at some books tenn -1. did you already place your bet?

**lakerboy** · 09-15-15, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by dmiles1021

now its a pick em, and at some books tenn -1. did you already place your bet?

Yes unfortunately

**GT21Megatron** · 09-15-15, 01:15 PM

Another air betting amateur attention whore flushing psi away on Tuesday when the games are 6 days away....LMFAO at this clown....he went like 1-7 week 1....clown needs to be banned....shits embarrassing

**thebestthereis** · 09-15-15, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by ezeblazin

Okay that is a bit of a stretch. Last year when these two teams played it took a 25 point 2nd half comeback for the Browns to win. And that was a Titans team led by Jake Locker and Charlie Whitehurst. The Titans appear to be better in just about every facet of the team this year. Mariota looks to possibly already be better than any QB on the Titans last year. Maybe in the last decade. Are the Browns better at all than last year? I certainly don't think Manziel is an upgrade over Hoyer. At least not yet.

Not saying this is a guaranteed Titans win or anything. The Browns could certainly win... But I don't see what makes them the better of the two teams.

The bottom line here is this. Browns have a great defense, better than the Titans. This the coaching staff comes up with a real NFL game plan and whoever is at QB doesn't screw it up then the Browns will win.

**Vegas39** · 09-15-15, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by thebestthereis

The bottom line here is this. Browns have a great defense, better than the Titans. This the coaching staff comes up with a real NFL game plan and whoever is at QB doesn't screw it up then the Browns will win.

Do you have confidence in manziel playing error free game?

**t-wizzle** · 09-15-15, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

Now Titans -1 at most places

Means nothing. People are all Mariota'd up.

**Vegas39** · 09-15-15, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Means nothing. People are all Mariota'd up.

Honestly think it has more to do with Manziel starting

**ezeblazin** · 09-15-15, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by thebestthereis

The bottom line here is this. Browns have a great defense, better than the Titans. This the coaching staff comes up with a real NFL game plan and whoever is at QB doesn't screw it up then the Browns will win.

Great defense? They were dead last in rushing defense in 2014(and pretty bad in week 1 this year). They do have a good passing defense though. I could see them forcing Mariota to throw some picks. I could also see Dick Lebeau forcing some Manziel turnovers as well.