Should the Nationals Fire Matt Williams????

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  • Big Bear
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    • 11-01-11
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    #1
    Should the Nationals Fire Matt Williams????
    Guy seems like he is unqualified to be a head coach at the MLB level.

    Clearly in over his head... how can you ask for any more talent to work with???

    Seriously if you can't win this NLEast with as much money as the Nationals have spent its time to make a change.

    He has lost control of the clubhouse.
  • Mr KLC
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    • 12-19-07
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    #2
    Only after the Angels decide to get rid of Mike Scioscia.
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    • jjgold
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      • 07-20-05
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      #3
      Bear not yet

      Baseball managers really do not mean much

      Games goes by itself many run other businesses on the bench
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      • Big Bear
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        • 11-01-11
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        #4
        Originally posted by jjgold
        Bear not yet

        Baseball managers really do not mean much

        Games goes by itself many run other businesses on the bench
        but if you are a owner how can you let all that talent and money go to waste???

        they need somebody who will light a fire under those boys asses

        somebody who will come into the clubhouse and start breaking shit when the team loses. Somebody that will the players accountable.
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        • jjgold
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          • 07-20-05
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          #5
          SF a power house so cannot touch him right now
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          • Big Bear
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            • 11-01-11
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            #6
            Originally posted by jjgold
            SF a power house so cannot touch him right now
            wtf u talkin about?

            Matt Williams played for SF.

            He coaches for the Washington Nationals.

            Bruce Bochy is the best coach in MLb he aint going nowhere.

            Matt williams is trash though and is preventing the Nationals from being a contender.
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            • 44 Mag
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              • 10-14-13
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              #7
              There are plenty of other guys that should be gone.
              Detroit: Brad Assmunch
              LAD: Don Mattingly
              Boston: John Farrell.
              Please continue the list..........
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              • stealthyburrito
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                • 05-12-09
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                #8
                No.

                Lost control of the clubhouse? That would indicate infighting and defiance which doesn't appear to be the case. They're not playing up to their talent which is a different issue.

                Nats have a nonchalant demeanor for better and for worse. Seems like a carryover from the few years davey johnson managed. Haven't been a rah rah team since Jim riggleman quit.
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                • teaserpleaser
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mr KLC
                  Only after the Angels decide to get rid of Mike Scioscia.
                  Mike walks in water....i thought you knew
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                  • Big Bear
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                    • 11-01-11
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by stealthyburrito
                    No.

                    Lost control of the clubhouse? That would indicate infighting and defiance which doesn't appear to be the case. They're not playing up to their talent which is a different issue.

                    Nats have a nonchalant demeanor for better and for worse. Seems like a carryover from the few years davey johnson managed. Haven't been a rah rah team since Jim riggleman quit.

                    interesting... i agree they do seem nonchalant. It's like they need a leader or something...somebody they can always count on to produce.

                    Lots of talented individual players but something is off with this team.
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                    • RavensFan2k3
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                      • 08-18-12
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      SF a power house so cannot touch him right now
                      Why are you allowed to post?
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                      • 44 Mag
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                        • 10-14-13
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
                        Why are you allowed to post?
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                        • DrunkHorseplayer
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                          • 05-15-10
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                          #13
                          Getting rid of the manager while the team is in first place? Uh, probably not.
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                          • The Giant
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                            • 01-21-12
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mr KLC
                            Only after the Angels decide to get rid of Mike Scioscia.
                            He is the worst manager in baseball.
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                            • Big Bear
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                              • 11-01-11
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                              #15
                              here is an interesting article on Harper


                              Washington Nationals star Bryce Harper plays baseball with a passion that constantly drives him to be the best player on the field. But there's also a growing concern that Harper's passion too often manifests itself into rage, which has proven detrimental to the Washington Nationals cause.
                              The latest example came during the 11th inning of Washington's 2-1 loss to the New York Mets on Friday night. With the score then tied at 1, Harper was called out on strikes against New York reliever Hansel Robles. After the out was registered, Harper immediately confronted home-plate umpire Jerry Meals, giving him an earful and briefly getting in his face.

                              And just that quickly, Harper was ejected for the third time this season for arguing balls and strikes .
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                              Granted, Harper seemed to have a legitimate beef about Meals' called third strike. It's also believed he wasn't thrilled with an earlier pitch in the at-bat.

                              "I was sticking up for my team and myself at the same time," Harper explained after the game. "He was bad all night."
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                              That's all well and good, but the bottom line is the Nationals needed him to stay in that game. They needed their best player on the field, especially when playing a close game against the team closest to them in the NL East standings, but Harper was unable to control the rage. According to MASN Sports' Chris Johnson, that's a major concern for Nationals manager Matt Williams. While there were several things to be frustrated about after such a roller coaster game, Williams' focus was on the need for Harper to keep his emotions in check and stay on the field.
                              "He needs to stay in the baseball game," Williams reportedly repeated three times.
                              "I want him to stay in every game," Williams added. "We've talked about it. We'll talk about it again."

                              So far, the talks haven't been sinking in. All three of Harper's ejections this season have come under similar circumstances. The first, as Johnson notes, came on a check swing argument with the Nationals and Diamondbacks tied 5-5 late in a game on May 13. That was perhaps the most explosive of his outbursts, and the timing again wasn't great for Washington.
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                              • Big Bear
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                                • 11-01-11
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                                #16
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                                • KingHutch
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold

                                  Games goes by itself many run other businesses on the bench
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                                  • daneblazer
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                                    • 09-14-08
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                                    #18
                                    Injuries are their problem more than Williams
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                                    • Conqueror
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                                      • 12-08-13
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                                      #19
                                      Truth be told: coaches don't mean that much in this game.
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                                      • ByeShea
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                                        • 06-30-08
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Conqueror
                                        Truth be told: coaches don't mean that much in this game.
                                        Please state whether you're speaking of beer league softball or MLB baseball. Thanks.
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                                        • Big Bear
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                                          • 11-01-11
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ByeShea
                                          Please state whether you're speaking of beer league softball or MLB baseball. Thanks.
                                          regardles of what he is referring to the Coach in any sports has a huge impact.

                                          The coach is the leader and shot caller. If the guy leading your team is incompetent then your team will not win championships. Sure talent can sometimes overcome poor managing but eventually managerial decisions will come into play.
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                                          • BOA12
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                                            • 02-19-12
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                                            #22
                                            Gotta have the horses to win every trainer knows that and good players make good managers conquerer has it correct
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                                            • Big Bear
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                                              • 11-01-11
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                                              #23
                                              Storen needs to be optioned to Triple A.
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                                              • jjgold
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                                                • 07-20-05
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                                                #24
                                                Bear now might be right

                                                They are overrated of course

                                                Harper not a natural hitter too mechanical and one dimensional as I think he is not a tough out

                                                Pitchers getting dead arms too
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                                                • hugh_jorgan
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                                                  • 07-19-15
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jjgold

                                                  Harper not a natural hitter too mechanical and one dimensional as I think he is not a tough out
                                                  JJ, while I find you very attractive physically, my man crush on you just came to an abrupt end as a result of reading the dumbest comment ever posted on the internet.
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                                                  • hugh_jorgan
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                                                    #26
                                                    Unless, of course, you were speaking of Valerie Harper.
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                                                    • trobin31
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                                                      #27
                                                      Unamed source saying players "unhappy" with Williams. Road trip for Nats to LA and SF, while Mets start 4 game home series agst Rockies. More bleeding could be just around the corner for Nats, however, they will be playing at some very pitcher friendly ballparks and their rotation still not too bad. Their bullpen has been a major liability. I give the GM Rizzo some faults for bringing in Papelbon, who seems to add nothing but misery to lockerrooms. Why now all of a sudden the Phillies are winning again? I don't think this is coincidence they got better as soon as they got rid of him. Matt Williams is not even a bit of a brainy guy. More of a disciplinarian, Jimmy Johnson(Cowboys) type coach. He's there to keep the ship operating efficiently. There are older, smarter guys in that dugout to figure out game plans, maneuvers. With that being said, a shakeup would probably be necessary and prolly only add something positive if Nats come back from this road trip having been swept or behind Mets by too the point of no return.
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                                                      • BOA12
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                                                        #28
                                                        If they continue this free fall he wont make it till then for sure
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                                                        • Big Bear
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                                                          • 11-01-11
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                                                          #29
                                                          don't get me wrong guys.

                                                          i have nothing against Matt Williams.

                                                          I used to really enjoy watching him when he was a player.

                                                          But this Nationals team has way too much talent to be performing so poorly. Maybe its the players... but it seems like there is no consistency and no go to guy that can pick up the slack for his teammates when everybody else is running cold.

                                                          Maybe Bryce Harper is not ready to lead this team yet. Yesterday him, Zimmerman, and Werth all failed to produce in the 9th inning of yesterdays ball game.
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                                                          • BOA12
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                                                            #30
                                                            Need to bring in Daubach from AA Harrisburgh-can whip them back into contention
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                                                            • jjgold
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                              don't get me wrong guys.

                                                              i have nothing against Matt Williams.

                                                              I used to really enjoy watching him when he was a player.

                                                              But this Nationals team has way too much talent to be performing so poorly. Maybe its the players... but it seems like there is no consistency and no go to guy that can pick up the slack for his teammates when everybody else is running cold.

                                                              Maybe Bryce Harper is not ready to lead this team yet. Yesterday him, Zimmerman, and Werth all failed to produce in the 9th inning of yesterdays ball game.
                                                              Harper a me player....one swing for every pitch

                                                              his swing with fail big time for long periods of time
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                                                              • daneblazer
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                                                                #32
                                                                If there's a time, now is it. This team is lifeless, no emotion...except when Harper barks at the umpires
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                                                                • Big Bear
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  losing again.

                                                                  Zimmerman is getting shelled
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                                                                  • jt315
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                                                                    • 11-12-11
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Team is playing with no fire. Season slipping away real fast. Losing to shit teams also.
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                                                                    • VegasPlayer
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Yep
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