Do we have any Steam Faders at SBR?

[Big Bear]

Old School guys.

Guys who have been around the block.

Wise gueys?

[Da Manster!]

just like with RLM, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose...I know there are lots of degens on here that bet or follow steam, but there isn't any conclusive data, stats, or evidence one way or the other that supports it...As I've told fellow gamblers for years, the number one handicapping tool is your gut feeling!...if you feel very strong about a play, then bet it!..period!..regardless of what others say...and always bet with your head, not your heart!...keep it simple like this and you should experience some level of success...

[jjgold]

Some say steam when if you consistently bet it long-term

[jtoler]

50% proposition, pass.

[d2bets]

just like with RLM, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose...I know there are lots of degens on here that bet or follow steam, but there isn't any conclusive data, stats, or evidence one way or the other that supports it...As I've told fellow gamblers for years, the number one handicapping tool is your gut feeling!...if you feel very strong about a play, then bet it!..period!..regardless of what others say...and always bet with your head, not your heart!...keep it simple like this and you should experience some level of success...

I would recommend fading the bolded if you actually want to make money.

Gut feeling is the tried and true method of losing sports bettors.

[Da Manster!]

I would recommend fading the bolded if you actually want to make money.

Gut feeling is the tried and true method of losing sports bettors.

wrong...maybe for you it is but each case is unique and different...you should know that by now....it all depends on who've you talked to..it's done wonderfully well for me...just saying...I can't tell you how many times I was going to bet on a certain side, then listened to some A$$holes on ESPN and on these boards, and then it influenced me and I changed my mind and wound up losing the wager that I should have won if I went with my original pick.

[d2bets]

wrong...maybe for you it is but each case is unique and different...you should know that by now....it all depends on who've you talked to..it's done wonderfully well for me...just saying...I can't tell you how many times I was going to bet on a certain side, then listened to some A$$holes on ESPN and on these boards, and then it influenced me and I changed my mind and wound up losing the wager that I should have won if I went with my original pick.

And so I take it you are a substantial lifetime sportsbetting winner?

[KVB]

It should depend on the situation. Every game is an individual issue within the context of the market. Sudden, larger line movements will influence bettors, and the books know it.

If you just chase, or fade, movement, based solely on the movement, the books will eat you alive before the sharps even get a chance at hone the line against you.

If you can predict where the line is going beforehand, and why, then you will be armed with far better information to make a choice about that movement.

Try to understand and predict, otherwise you are acting at the whim of the bookie's moves.

For the good "gut" bettors, and I have posted on this before, it can be an invaluable tool. Years of experience in subjective betting can result in an excellent intuitive feel. Some guys are very good at this type of betting.

The problem occurs in the long haul. Like other types of bettors, the streaks and emotions involved can get to the "gut" bettor, short circuiting both intuitive thought and rational thinking.

When betting with the gut always keep a level head; anything less at the wrong time could result in downward spiral real fast.

For discussion and more information on why some lines do what they do and other market mechanics...

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3116443-cfl.html

This CFL thread won't last forever.

[Da Manster!]

And so I take it you are a substantial lifetime sportsbetting winner?

you win some, you lose some...that's the bottom line...all I'm saying is go with what you like and don't let others influence your decision...more often than not, you'll be disappointed.

[Da Manster!]

It should depend on the situation. Every game is an individual issue within the context of the market. Sudden, larger line movements will influence bettors, and the books know it.

If you just chase, or fade, movement, based solely on the movement, the books will eat you alive before the sharps even get a chance at hone the line against you.

If you can predict where the line is going beforehand, and why, then you will be armed with far better information to make a choice about that movement.

Try to understand and predict, otherwise you are acting at the whim of the bookie's moves.

For the good "gut" bettors, and I have posted on this before, it can be an invaluable tool. Years of experience in subjective betting can result in an excellent intuitive feel. Some guys are very good at this type of betting.

The problem occurs in the long haul. Like other types of bettors, the streaks and emotions involved can get to the "gut" bettor, short circuiting both intuitive thought and rational thinking.

When betting with the gut always keep a level head; anything less at the wrong time could result in downward spiral real fast.

For discussion and more information on why some lines do what they do and other market mechanics...

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3116443-cfl.html

This CFL thread won't last forever.

basically what I said in my first post....

[blackHIPPY]

I hardly even look at stats all gut baby

[Smoke]

you win some, you lose some...that's the bottom line...all I'm saying is go with what you like and don't let others influence your decision...more often than not, you'll be disappointed.

Mams smoke say not true monster. Follow the steam

[Ra77er]

Disturbing to think of Hippys taste in women.

Steam at certain books is up on different sports and down on others. Hard to really do consistently year in and year out. Ex Pinny steam great in nhl one year or only good in totals and vice versa. Setting your own line somehow and looking at the psychology has helped me improve....mentally.

[DiggityDaggityDo]

Old School guys.

Guys who have been around the block.

Wise gueys?

Bear, which sports book are you at?

[Da Manster!]

Mams smoke say not true monster. Follow the steam

I've tried "following the steam" more than once and have been burned on several occasions...never again......If I go down, I'll go down with my own handicapping and on my terms, not someone else's!...

[Da Manster!]

Bear, which sports book are you at?

1. Wind and Air Pressure
   Book by Alan Rodgers
   
   
2. Author: Alan Rodgers
   
   
3. Genres: Nature, Children's literature
   

[Smoke]

I've tried "following the steam" more than once and have been burned on several occasions...never again......If I go down, I'll go down with my own handicapping and on my terms, not someone else's!...

Mama smoke say why then do books boot steam chasers?

[Big Bear]

Mama smoke say why then do books boot steam chasers?

[Da Manster!]

Mama smoke say why then do books boot steam chasers?

oh, I agree!...it's discrimination I tell ya!...books shouldn't do this!.......wagering is wagering, right?!...however, steam chasing is not for me...Now, I don't mind chasing some pussy but that's about it!...

[Ra77er]

Does mama smoke sounds like someone you would meet in a palm reading or zodiac shops? I see the golden child movie for whatever reason.

[Smoke]

Does mama smoke sounds like someone you would meet in a palm reading or zodiac shops? I see the golden child movie for whatever reason.

Yes dazzler. Mama smoke has a crystal ball. Mama smoke sees your future as bright dazzler. You will hit 60% this NFL season

[Ra77er]

Wow I really like mama smokes attitude, shes a good one smokie treat her right.

[Smoke]

Wow I really like mama smokes attitude, shes a good one smokie treat her right.

Mama smoke says thanks and will be sending you a bed bath and beyond gift basket for the holidays.

[CappinTerp]

Forget the steam moves and trying to beat the closing line!! The smart money is not always smart.!However, and this is a gut feel that takes years to decipher....in college football, esp. the noon kickoffs, about 20-30 min. before, one may see big moves on the games and totals....fade theses moves! It will take time to figure out,but you will figure it out. And on another note: for myself, it is very important and I put a lot of " stock" in it......Is the price were the game opens up!!!....in all sports!!....remember that the books know much more then we do and there is a reason for every price and move!..............Maybe a post for another day...to follow or fade!...............gl

[CappinTerp]

oh, I agree!...it's discrimination I tell ya!...books shouldn't do this!.......wagering is wagering, right?!...however, steam chasing is not for me...Now, I don't mind chasing some pussy but that's about it!...

Forget the pussy, give me a good looking girl that has a Purdey mouth!!!!

[texhooper]

let's see what madam ruby sees...

[Jaug]

I don't mind going against steam except for when the sport is Tennis. Looks to me like every line move in tennis is sharp. Surprising.