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  • Ghenghis Kahn
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-02-12
    • 19734

    #1
    do i have a case with bovada?
    so i placed this wager thinking it was 1st 5... then i realized it was for the ml but it's graded as a push.

    Jul 28, 2015
    4:03 PM
    #xxxxxxxx

    Placed by Web

    Single #xxxxxxxxxxxx

    Baseball - Moneyline
    Washington Nationals @ Miami Marlins
    Miami Marlins (-140) Jul 28, 2015 4:10 PM
    • BOTH
    • Jose Fernandez (R) must throw first pitch for Miami Marlins or this pick is NO ACTION.
    • Jordan Zimmermann (R) must throw first pitch for Washington Nationals or this pick is NO ACTION.


    Outcome: Push
    Date settled: Jul 28, 2015 5:34 PM


    $280.00
    $200.00


    i have a case right? no where on the bet does it say 1st 5.
  • lakerboy
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-02-09
    • 94379

    #2
    What was the line for full game?
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    • Ghenghis Kahn
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-02-12
      • 19734

      #3
      probably ~-125 but bovada's new layout is weird. they have the normal line and they have live bet line even before the game starts. when i reviewed my bet there was no mention of the usual "prop 1st 5". hence, i thought i accidentally clicked on the live bet which the odds are way worse.

      this is due to their new layout. fukking hate it.
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      • MoMoneyMoVaughn
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-08-14
        • 14988

        #4
        Wow for once someone who actually posts has a complaint.

        Do the right thing SBR
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        • Ghenghis Kahn
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-02-12
          • 19734

          #5
          this is what their 1st 5 bets usually look like...

          Jul 22, 2015
          6:55 PM
          #xxxxxxxx

          Placed by Web


          Single #xxxxxxxxx

          Baseball - Props: 5 Inning Lines (5inn.) Moneyline
          (TOR @ OAK) - 5 Inning line
          (968) Oakland Athletics -150 Jul 22, 2015 7:05 PM
          • Felix Doubront (L) must throw first pitch for Toronto Blue Jays or this pick is NO ACTION.
          • Sonny Gray (R) must throw first pitch for Oakland Athletics or this pick is NO ACTION.

          • Toronto Blue Jays 1
          • Oakland Athletics 3


          Outcome: Win
          Date settled: Jul 22, 2015 11:07 PM


          $300.00
          $200.00
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            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-04-08
            • 725

            #6
            Line value is 1st 5, not full game.

            Anyways, please fill out a complaint form: http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
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            • Ghenghis Kahn
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-02-12
              • 19734

              #7
              last time i filed a complaint, you sided with the book. just let me know if i have a case or not. i don't want some idiot sbr employee writing dumb fukking article accusing me of something.

              it's clearly their mistake, do you see under baseball it says moneyline? and the one i posted after it says props 1st 5? there's a difference.

              i will take a screen shot of the confusion of what i'm talking about when it happens. after the new update, they sometimes put live bet lines before the game even starts.
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                SBR Wise Guy
                • 09-04-08
                • 725

                #8
                Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                last time i filed a complaint, you sided with the book. just let me know if i have a case or not. i don't want some idiot sbr employee writing dumb fukking article accusing me of something.

                it's clearly their mistake, do you see under baseball it says moneyline? and the one i posted after it says props 1st 5? there's a difference.

                i will take a screen shot of the confusion of what i'm talking about when it happens. after the new update, they sometimes put live bet lines before the game even starts.

                I apologize if you thought I was insinuating anything, because I wasn't. I personally don't handle book complaints. If you have a case, we will definitely help.
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                • daneblazer
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 09-14-08
                  • 27861

                  #9
                  The worst they can say is no
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                  • Ghenghis Kahn
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-02-12
                    • 19734

                    #10
                    i guess, i just hate the new layout.
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                    • Smoke
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-09-09
                      • 48111

                      #11
                      With two bubble bottoms like that .... YES
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                      • pavyracer
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 04-12-07
                        • 82840

                        #12
                        Can you post an example of another ticket that was for the full game ML?
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                        • Ghenghis Kahn
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-02-12
                          • 19734

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                          Can you post an example of another ticket that was for the full game ML?
                          Jul 25, 2015
                          3:58 PM
                          #xxxxxxx

                          Placed by Web


                          Single #xxxxxxxxx

                          Baseball - Moneyline
                          Los Angeles Dodgers @ New York Mets
                          Los Angeles Dodgers (+115) Jul 25, 2015 4:10 PM
                          • BOTH
                          • Matt Harvey (R) must throw first pitch for New York Mets or this pick is NO ACTION.
                          • Zach Lee (R) must throw first pitch for Los Angeles Dodgers or this pick is NO ACTION.


                          Outcome: Loss
                          Date settled: Jul 25, 2015 7:25 PM


                          $200.00
                          $230.00
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                          • Ghenghis Kahn
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-02-12
                            • 19734

                            #14
                            Jul 27, 2015
                            3:39 PM
                            #xxxxxxxxxx

                            Placed by Web


                            Single #xxxxxxxx

                            Baseball - Total
                            Kansas City Royals @ Cleveland Indians
                            Over 7.5 (-105) Jul 27, 2015 4:10 PM
                            • BOTH
                            • Cody Anderson (R) must throw first pitch for Cleveland Indians or this pick is NO ACTION.
                            • Edinson Volquez (R) must throw first pitch for Kansas City Royals or this pick is NO ACTION.


                            Outcome: Win
                            Date settled: Jul 27, 2015 7:11 PM


                            $105.00
                            $100.00
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                            • pavyracer
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 04-12-07
                              • 82840

                              #15
                              According to sbrodds the ML was -127 when you placed the bet. They could claim software malfunction when issuing the ticket receipt. Maybe call them and they could give you a free play for pointing out the discrepancy. But SBR is not going to help your case because the line you bet is definitely 5 innings based on the history SBR recorded.
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                              • Ghenghis Kahn
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-02-12
                                • 19734

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                According to sbrodds the ML was -127 when you placed the bet. They could claim software malfunction when issuing the ticket receipt. Maybe call them and they could give you a free play for pointing out the discrepancy. But SBR is not going to help your case because the line you bet is definitely 5 innings based on the history SBR recorded.
                                if that's the case hopefully the marlins lose. but i'm telling you the new layout has some weird shit going on.
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                                • Ghenghis Kahn
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-02-12
                                  • 19734

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                  According to sbrodds the ML was -127 when you placed the bet. They could claim software malfunction when issuing the ticket receipt. Maybe call them and they could give you a free play for pointing out the discrepancy. But SBR is not going to help your case because the line you bet is definitely 5 innings based on the history SBR recorded.


                                  this is their new layout. you see there are three different lines. the one that has a lock on it is the live line. sometimes the line gets unlocked before the game even starts. that's why i thought i accidentally clicked on the live bet line.
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                                  • Ghenghis Kahn
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-02-12
                                    • 19734

                                    #18
                                    see like this... check the time stamp. all three lines are available.

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                                    • badgerguy
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-21-13
                                      • 2281

                                      #19
                                      Fuk em up Kahn, the new layout sucks ass. It's slow and takes forever to navigate. That's not to mention the mobile bs going on. FU Bovada.
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                                      • BuckyOne
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-02-15
                                        • 2728

                                        #20
                                        I think I see what you are saying about the new format. Where are the rotation #'s at? Do they print out on the ticket? Different # for the game than live or ist 5?
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                                        • daneblazer
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 09-14-08
                                          • 27861

                                          #21
                                          Probably not a bad idea to practice a few $1 bets before football season starts. Sounds like a nightmare
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                                          • mth61
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 11-16-14
                                            • 611

                                            #22
                                            Bovada just created the worst betting platform... the worst
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                                            • jtoler
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 12-17-13
                                              • 30967

                                              #23
                                              Quit trying to get over.
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61738

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                last time i filed a complaint, you sided with the book. just let me know if i have a case or not. i don't want some idiot sbr employee writing dumb fukking article accusing me of something.

                                                it's clearly their mistake, do you see under baseball it says moneyline? and the one i posted after it says props 1st 5? there's a difference.

                                                i will take a screen shot of the confusion of what i'm talking about when it happens. after the new update, they sometimes put live bet lines before the game even starts.
                                                I don't think you have much of a case personally. Partly because you are honest about having intended a 5 inning bet anyway. But mostly because it sounds like the bet listing and odds were fine and the problem is just the bet confirmation info.

                                                But like someone else said, given the teething problems there, it sounds like the sort of problem they might like to offer a goodwill freeplay over.

                                                And doesn't sound like there is any danger of criticism of you personally either way.
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                                                • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-02-12
                                                  • 19734

                                                  #25
                                                  see this is where the problem lies. hypothetically, if the ticket was graded as moneyline and the marlins lost yesterday, i would have no case and lose my money since the ticket clearly says moneyline. but since it's their mistake, it's all good...
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                                                  • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                    • 19734

                                                    #26
                                                    more than a free play, i would prefer their old layout. but they are stubbornly refusing to go back.
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                                                    • mikejamm
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 08-24-09
                                                      • 11047

                                                      #27
                                                      Blowvada fuk'in sucks! period! They probably came up with this new bullshit layout just to fuk with players. That way, when there is a fuk up, they can blame it on the software and not have to honor shit! You're wasting your time Kahn, move to a better book like 5Dimes.
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                                                      • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                        • 19734

                                                        #28
                                                        i play at both. i just need to use heritage more but they don't have any debit/*********** funding options.
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                                                        • Optional
                                                          Administrator
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 61738

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                          see this is where the problem lies. hypothetically, if the ticket was graded as moneyline and the marlins lost yesterday, i would have no case and lose my money since the ticket clearly says moneyline. but since it's their mistake, it's all good...
                                                          You're right about that angle. IF the bet was graded as a ML it would be a tough argument and if I was helping you I'd try to convince you the chances you had made the error are too high to get into a big argument with them over. So it is important the ticket is right like you say.

                                                          But it would be a pretty big system stuff-up their end if the bet was struck as a 5 Innings with those odds (whatever the ticket said) and then graded at as a ML. pretty unlikely scenario.

                                                          Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                          more than a free play, i would prefer their old layout. but they are stubbornly refusing to go back.
                                                          I think you are not alone but expecting them to roll back is a bit of a stretch to hope for. Think they will just keep tweaking the new sioftware from here no matter what anyone says.
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                                                          • Itsamazing777
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-14-12
                                                            • 12602

                                                            #30
                                                            Washington was -120 or so I think full game
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                                                            • Optional
                                                              Administrator
                                                              • 06-10-10
                                                              • 61738

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Optional

                                                              You're right about that angle. IF the bet was graded as a ML it would be a tough argument and if I was helping you I'd try to convince you the chances you had made the error are too high to get into a big argument with them over. So it is important the ticket is right like you say.

                                                              But it would be a pretty big system stuff-up their end if the bet was struck as a 5 Innings with those odds (whatever the ticket said) and then graded at as a ML. pretty unlikely scenario.



                                                              I think you are not alone but expecting them to roll back is a bit of a stretch to hope for. Think they will just keep tweaking the new sioftware from here no matter what anyone says.
                                                              Actually you would still have a case in that scenario as the odds would be wrong for a ML bet.
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                                                              • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-02-12
                                                                • 19734

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Optional
                                                                Actually you would still have a case in that scenario as the odds would be wrong for a ML bet.
                                                                no, that's what you think.
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                                                                • Optional
                                                                  Administrator
                                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                                  • 61738

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

                                                                  no, that's what you think.
                                                                  Um, why did you ask if you don't believe one of the people who would be handling it?

                                                                  Whatever you think, I know that would be the angle I would argue in that scenario.
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                                                                  • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 01-02-12
                                                                    • 19734

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                                    Actually you would still have a case in that scenario as the odds would be wrong for a ML bet.
                                                                    my last complaint was about rugby league moneyline where the team i wagered on won but they graded the wager as a loss.

                                                                    there reasoning was the game was tied after the full 80 minutes and it was a three-way line. i pointed out the fact that they had no explanation of this on their nrl rules but it was a three-way line due to the fact that there was a tie option.

                                                                    in there rugby rules they do explain about not counting the gold point rule but they don't mention anything about 2 or 3 way lines like they do in soccer.

                                                                    these sites can pick and choose however they please, that's my beef.
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                                                                    • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                                      • 19734

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Optional
                                                                      Um, why did you ask if you don't believe one of the people who would be handling it?

                                                                      Whatever you think, I know that would be the angle I would argue in that scenario.
                                                                      oh so you're the one that wrote that stupid fukking article talking shit about me then? you fukking bastard!!!
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