Who is the best 3B in the National League?

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  • stevenash
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    • 01-17-11
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    #1
    Who is the best 3B in the National League?
    PLAYER TEAM AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS WAR
    Yunel Escobar WSH 245 35 81 8 1 4 26 1 2 17 36 0.331 0.381 0.42 0.801 0.8
    Todd Frazier CIN 264 50 77 20 1 23 48 8 2 22 52 0.292 0.356 0.636 0.993 3.8
    Matt Carpenter STL 237 43 69 20 1 8 33 1 1 37 54 0.291 0.389 0.485 0.875 2.1
    Nolan Arenado COL 257 39 73 16 3 17 54 0 3 11 40 0.284 0.315 0.568 0.883 3.3
    Josh Harrison PIT 255 34 72 16 0 4 22 7 4 10 39 0.282 0.32 0.392 0.712 0.9
    Kris Bryant CHC 227 40 64 12 2 10 42 5 1 35 79 0.282 0.384 0.485 0.869 2.1
  • Chi_archie
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-22-08
    • 63172

    #2
    Frazier is a top 3 player this year in the NL

    penetrate the position
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    • OckertCR
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 06-22-14
      • 641

      #3
      Frazier or Arenado
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      • htown1
        SBR High Roller
        • 05-28-15
        • 153

        #4
        Arenado doesnt belong in discussion. Inflated numbers due to coors field
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        • Ralphie Halves
          SBR MVP
          • 12-13-09
          • 4507

          #5
          For getting on base as much as he does, Escobar sure doesn't score a lot. No production either. Pass.

          Frazier deserves to be #1.

          As the second guy for the all-star game, I hate to say it as a Cards fan, but just put Kris Bryant on there. He's who the fans want to see, and it's not a bad option even if they didn't.
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          • That Dude
            SBR Hustler
            • 03-04-15
            • 59

            #6
            Originally posted by htown1
            Arenado doesnt belong in discussion. Inflated numbers due to coors field
            Arenado absolutely deserves to be in the discussion. Far and away the best defensive 3B in the NL as well as a very good hitter.
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            • d2bets
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              • 08-10-05
              • 39995

              #7
              Frazier's having the best year, but if you're talking about projecting over the next 5 years, the choice is easy: Kris Bryant.
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              • smitch124
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-19-08
                • 12566

                #8
                Mcgehee
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                • GT21Megatron
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-20-13
                  • 10818

                  #9
                  I think Rendon has to be in the conversation even though he's been out....he was 5th last year in MVP voting.
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                  • tennis005
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 04-27-14
                    • 386

                    #10
                    Frazier but don't sleep on franco.
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                    • eidolon
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 01-02-08
                      • 9531

                      #11
                      Frazier leads them in HR/Runs/SB/2B and 2nd in Avg/RBI
                      Not sure how it could be anyone else (he is also good on the defensive side, though struggling a little bit so far this year)
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                      • stevenash
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                        • 01-17-11
                        • 65710

                        #12
                        Originally posted by htown1
                        Arenado doesnt belong in discussion. Inflated numbers due to coors field
                        You really need to research your posts before you post them as fact.
                        There are Arenado's home/away splits.
                        Where is he better, home or away from Coors?



                        Home 34 33 140 132 21 37 9 3 6 25 0 1 4 20 .280 .300 .530 .830 70 5 1 0 3 2 1 .284 88 123
                        Away 33 33 136 125 18 36 7 0 11 29 0 2 7 20 .288 .331 .608 .939 76 3 2 0 2 1 0 .260 112 166
                        Arenado is a hoover at third base and will win a dozen more gold gloves before his career is over.

                        When you factor in every aspect of the game Arenado is every bit the the thirdbaseman Frazier is, if not better.
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          They are all very good and you can't go wrong with any them
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                          • smitch124
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 05-19-08
                            • 12566

                            #14
                            Bryant sure caught up with the others in ABs what date was his 1st game?
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                            • stevenash
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                              • 01-17-11
                              • 65710

                              #15
                              Originally posted by smitch124
                              Bryant sure caught up with the others in ABs what date was his 1st game?
                              Without looking it up, late April
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                              • smitch124
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                                • 05-19-08
                                • 12566

                                #16
                                April 17th, man was that much ado about nothing.
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                                • meader99
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 10-30-10
                                  • 4223

                                  #17
                                  Aramis.
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65710

                                    #18
                                    ^
                                    I always liked his game.
                                    Very underrated.
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                                    • smitch124
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-19-08
                                      • 12566

                                      #19
                                      Arenado 2 HRs tonight. So far...
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                                      • Brock Landers
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 06-30-08
                                        • 45359

                                        #20
                                        Carpenter

                                        How is this even up for debate?
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                                        • Jrod124
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 10-31-09
                                          • 5622

                                          #21
                                          Frazier with Arenado a close 2nd. Franco is coming fast I have him at 5. Carp 3 and Bryant 4
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                                          • msutter
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-14-07
                                            • 1162

                                            #22
                                            If you're talking long term every GM in baseball would take Bryant
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                                            • daneblazer
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                                              • 09-14-08
                                              • 27861

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by htown1
                                              Arenado doesnt belong in discussion. Inflated numbers due to coors field
                                              I thought the same thing at first, but he's been equally as good on the road
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                                              • goduke
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                                                • 02-17-10
                                                • 11580

                                                #24
                                                Carpenter and its not even close the last 5 years, hes the most clutch out of the list and you put any pitcher against him in the playoffs in a big moment and I would take him every time. I dont think you can say that about anyone else on that list
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                                                • Big Bear
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                                                  • 11-01-11
                                                  • 43253

                                                  #25
                                                  Nolan Arenado but who cares he plays for a terrible baseball team.

                                                  Of the guys that are on teams that actually matter its easily Matt Carpenter.

                                                  Arenado has more talent in his pinky finger that Carpenter has but it doesn't mean shit b/c the Rockies will never make the playoffs b/c they refuse to pay for pitching.

                                                  Carpenter does the little things that don't show up on a stat sheet. He is a winner.

                                                  Cardinals peaked too soon this year though. i guarantee they don't win the world series.
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                                                  • stevenash
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                    • 65710

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                    Nolan Arenado but who cares he plays for a terrible baseball team.
                                                    But you are on record, multiple times going back to 2014 on how great the Rockie team is, and how they are such a force, and how good the pitching staff is...... ( I can get links to all your Rockie posts if you want )

                                                    Now they are a suck ass team, what gives man, are they a great team like you have posted on these boards numerous times, or do they suck?
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                                                    • stevenash
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                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65710

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by msutter
                                                      If you're talking long term every GM in baseball would take Bryant
                                                      Very doubtful at first about Bryant, but after seeing a few of his gems on defense, he could very well be a bona fide stud.
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                                                      • RonPaul2008
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                                                        • 06-08-07
                                                        • 6741

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                        Very doubtful at first about Bryant, but after seeing a few of his gems on defense, he could very well be a bona fide stud.
                                                        They wouldn't be taking him for his defense...
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                                                        • JMobile
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                                                          • 08-21-10
                                                          • 19074

                                                          #29
                                                          Matt Carpenter is the guy I want during playoffs. Guy is not afraid to bat with bases loaded against the Dodgers.
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                                                          • Pauulzcappin
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                                                            • 04-23-10
                                                            • 20295

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by JMobile
                                                            Matt Carpenter is the guy I want during playoffs. Guy is not afraid to bat with bases loaded against the Dodgers.
                                                            Why would he? He knows Kershaw is going to throw a meatball in the middle of the plate.

                                                            @thread Arenado is the best defensive player and Frazier is the best slugger. Frazier leads NL 3rd baseman in errors.
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                                                            • Bcatswin
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 12-21-10
                                                              • 13931

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                              Frazier is a top 3 player this year in the NL

                                                              penetrate the position
                                                              In MVP talks thus far.
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                                                              • d2bets
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                                                                • 08-10-05
                                                                • 39995

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by goduke
                                                                Carpenter and its not even close the last 5 years, hes the most clutch out of the list and you put any pitcher against him in the playoffs in a big moment and I would take him every time. I dont think you can say that about anyone else on that list
                                                                Sure, because most of those guys have not been in the league for 5 years.

                                                                But who cares about the past. What about the next 5 years? Who would you take for the next 5 years?
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                                                                • stevenash
                                                                  Moderator
                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 65710

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by RonPaul2008
                                                                  They wouldn't be taking him for his defense...
                                                                  Defense is a big part of it though.

                                                                  Look at Washington, they had to disrupt the entire chemistry of their infield because of a thirdbaseman who could not throw a ball to first base.

                                                                  Now Bear will tell you LaRoach is garbage, (he's not) he led the Nationals in HR's last season, however Ryan Zimmerman was so bad at 3B the Nationals they had make room at first for him.

                                                                  Don't kid yourself without Max and and Clown Boy Nats are nowhere near first place.
                                                                  They had to move Zimmerman to 1B, start Escobar, who is hitting for average, yes, but not much production.
                                                                  Rendon and Desmond aren't tearing it up either, Nats are missing LaRoachs 25 or so bombs.
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                                                                  • Mr KLC
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                                                                    • 12-19-07
                                                                    • 31097

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Luis Valbuena - 19 home runs baby!
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                                                                    • Mr KLC
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                                                                      • 12-19-07
                                                                      • 31097

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                                                      Luis Valbuena - 19 home runs baby!
                                                                      Whoops. wrong league.
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