if you're an nba gm why would you draft a euro with your top 10 pick?

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  • Ghenghis Kahn
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    • 01-02-12
    • 19734

    #1
    if you're an nba gm why would you draft a euro with your top 10 pick?
    these goons never learn...
  • sweep
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-09-10
    • 16753

    #2
    have to go back to Dirk in 98' to find a top 10 Euro all-star. Can usually steal a decent euro late 1st rd or early 2nd. Would never waste a lotto pick on a euro, or any white guy for that matter
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    • The Giant
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-21-12
      • 21480

      #3
      Two euros are going in the top 10, and Kaminsky might even find his way in there.
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388179

        #4
        most are ok but not game changers

        good observation
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        • MoMoneyMoVaughn
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 05-08-14
          • 14988

          #5
          Porzingis and Hezonja are among the better European prospects we have seen in a long time.

          Hezonja can shoot 3s at a shockingly high percentage. And this is from 22'9, not the 20 foot NCAA line.

          Since 2008 There have only been like 3 European lottery picks. There will likely be two this year and for good reason. Both these guys can ball.

          Do not forget that the Euroleague guys play against fully grown, often ex-NBA guys. It is a higher level of play than many give it credit for.
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          • lakerboy
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-02-09
            • 94379

            #6
            Originally posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn
            Porzingis and Hezonja are among the better European prospects we have seen in a long time.

            Hezonja can shoot 3s at a shockingly high percentage. And this is from 22'9, not the 20 foot NCAA line.

            Since 2008 There have only been like 3 European lottery picks. There will likely be two this year and for good reason. Both these guys can ball.

            Do not forget that the Euroleague guys play against fully grown, often ex-NBA guys. It is a higher level of play than many give it credit for.
            Still isn't worth taking these guys high up.
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            • tony_come
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              • 03-31-10
              • 21695

              #7
              Black players will riot
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              • MoMoneyMoVaughn
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                • 05-08-14
                • 14988

                #8
                Originally posted by lakerboy
                Still isn't worth taking these guys high up.
                They don't want the guy who is currently the best player though, they want the guy with the highest upside (as ridiculous as that seems).

                I'm not sure where I stand as far as actually agreeing that these guys should be drafted this high, I just think a number of GMs are looking to take guys who might be game changers for a team.

                A ton of lottery picks end up at pretty useless players anyways. Porzingis could be a floor spacing 4 in a couple years who can still get to the rim and score in the post. Hezonja could be a Klay thompson type.

                Not saying either of them will pan out, but they definitely could.
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                • upscope
                  SBR MVP
                  • 04-26-11
                  • 2837

                  #9
                  Yawn...Draft the black guys & don't worry bout it....pretty simple actually
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                  • sweep
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-09-10
                    • 16753

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn
                    Porzingis and Hezonja are among the better European prospects we have seen in a long time.

                    Hezonja can shoot 3s at a shockingly high percentage. And this is from 22'9, not the 20 foot NCAA line.

                    Since 2008 There have only been like 3 European lottery picks. There will likely be two this year and for good reason. Both these guys can ball.

                    Do not forget that the Euroleague guys play against fully grown, often ex-NBA guys. It is a higher level of play than many give it credit for.
                    seen that movie before
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                    • Big Bear
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-01-11
                      • 43253

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                      these goons never learn...
                      Tell that to Tony Parker.

                      He is from France guey.
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                      • sweep
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-09-10
                        • 16753

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                        Tell that to Tony Parker.

                        He is from France guey.

                        once again you prove how stupid you really are....the thread says "top 10 pick"

                        Parker was the last pick in the first rd. in 2001

                        go hang yourself dumbfukk

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                        • MoMoneyMoVaughn
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                          • 05-08-14
                          • 14988

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sweep
                          seen that movie before
                          I know sweep.

                          But they can't all be bad can they?

                          CAN THEY???
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                          • DOM_Toretto
                            Restricted User
                            • 01-28-13
                            • 9035

                            #14
                            Since Yao Ming was drafted #1 in 2002, 19 international players have been Lottery picks.

                            NONE were ever All-Stars.
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                            • BigSpoon
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-04-10
                              • 4113

                              #15
                              Pau Gasol was pretty good as the #3 pick in 2001.
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                              • htown1
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 05-28-15
                                • 153

                                #16
                                dunno about the other guy but Porzingis is a stud. He will be better than Okafar thats for sure.
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                                • greypimps
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-13-13
                                  • 2175

                                  #17
                                  Can those guys dribble? Or they just shoot when passed to? Hate those funny hip side dribbles, they are often easily picked.
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                                  • jtoler
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                                    • 12-17-13
                                    • 30967

                                    #18
                                    If you can ball you can ball, location, ethnicity, nationality matters not.
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                                    • d2bets
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                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 39995

                                      #19
                                      Past performance is not always predictive of future performance. Sample size is too small. Euros getting better and better. Each person is individual on their own merits.
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                                      • pavyracer
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 04-12-07
                                        • 82839

                                        #20
                                        SBR xenophobia in full display here.
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                                        • Ralphie Halves
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-13-09
                                          • 4507

                                          #21
                                          Europe and Australia getting stronger and stronger every year. It's not a surprise anymore people, get your heads out of the 90s!
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                                          • Chi_archie
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-22-08
                                            • 63172

                                            #22
                                            sometimes it isn't just about drafting for talent

                                            due to $, salary cap, and timing sometimes it pays to draft a Euro guy in a situation where you can basically draft and follow and not pay the guy right away.

                                            for instance the Bulls traded for Nicola Mirotic on draft night back in 2011, they didn't have to actually pay the dude until 3 years later after watching him develop overseas
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                                            • Ralphie Halves
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-13-09
                                              • 4507

                                              #23
                                              3 out of 5 people drafted from Europe in the first round two years ago are already major factors in the NBA

                                              Greek Freak
                                              Gobert
                                              Dennis Schroder
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                                              • lakerboy
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 04-02-09
                                                • 94379

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by htown1
                                                dunno about the other guy but Porzingis is a stud. He will be better than Okafar thats for sure.
                                                Remember when the Russian guy beat the black guy in rocky?
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                                                • d2bets
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                                                  • 08-10-05
                                                  • 39995

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Ralphie Halves
                                                  3 out of 5 people drafted from Europe in the first round two years ago are already major factors in the NBA

                                                  Greek Freak
                                                  Gobert
                                                  Dennis Schroder
                                                  Also Nikola Mirotic in his first season drafted late first round.
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                                                  • Ralphie Halves
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-13-09
                                                    • 4507

                                                    #26
                                                    The year before that, the only Euro drafted in the first round, Evan Fournier, was a big contributor this year for the Magic before he got hurt.

                                                    The 2012 draft is pretty fascinating. Sick top ten. Second round? All bums except for Draymond Green. Some nice scouting going on in the NBA.

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                                                    • Ralphie Halves
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-13-09
                                                      • 4507

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                                      Also Nikola Mirotic in his first season drafted late first round.
                                                      That was back in 2011 though. My point was it's getting stronger to the point where you don't have to wait as long for these guys to develop now. They're already really close.
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                                                      • jtoler
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                                                        • 12-17-13
                                                        • 30967

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Ralphie Halves
                                                        3 out of 5 people drafted from Europe in the first round two years ago are already major factors in the NBA

                                                        Greek Freak
                                                        Gobert
                                                        Dennis Schroder
                                                        Those don't count, when he says euro he's thinking caucasian, anglo saxon.
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                                                        • packerd_00
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 05-22-13
                                                          • 17811

                                                          #29
                                                          What rd was Ricky Rubio drafted
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                                                          • new era
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 07-28-13
                                                            • 1470

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by packerd_00
                                                            What rd was Ricky Rubio drafted
                                                            2 rounds earlier than it should've been
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                                                            • Allure
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 08-18-10
                                                              • 7606

                                                              #31
                                                              Because them Euros at least have the skills to hit fukking free throws. Don't see many hack-a-Euro play calls, do you?
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                                                              • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-02-12
                                                                • 19734

                                                                #32
                                                                besides dirk none of them really panned out. to pick a euro in top 10 is a big gamble.
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                                                                • paco
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 05-07-09
                                                                  • 62873

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Joe dumars will forever be known for drafting Darko
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                                                                  • Big Bear
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 11-01-11
                                                                    • 43253

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by sweep
                                                                    once again you prove how stupid you really are....the thread says "top 10 pick"

                                                                    Parker was the last pick in the first rd. in 2001

                                                                    go hang yourself dumbfukk

                                                                    sweep ....

                                                                    u crack me up bro.

                                                                    lets see pal... you are 35 years old and fat as shit. You do cocaine and fukk ugly women about once or twice a year.

                                                                    and you are life time losing gambler.

                                                                    I guess that is what you call winning.

                                                                    Go suck L-kidds cokk some more you fukkin coked out wigger.
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