now lets be clear about james

[lakerboy]

Why in the hell were they close to begin with? Answer: James.

The guy is literally the only offensive threat for the Cavs. Everyone is just praying for a shot to fall when they get a chance.

Missing layups my ass with two or three Warriors draped on him, you mean. At that point, the game was over. Lebron was just trying to score with as much time on the clock as possible and figured he'd have to do it himself, since everyone else in a Cavs jersey is offensively impotent.

Yes eddy. Why are you so busy defending a player about to lose his 4th final?

[Ra77er]

Eddy is a breath of fresh air.

[Eddy Munny]

Yes eddy. Why are you so busy defending a player about to lose his 4th final?

Why are you so busy being a blind idiot?

[d2bets]

If he loses, he's 2-4 in the finals and a Ray Allen miracle away from being 1-5.

Quite simply, he can never be compared to Jordan.

[lakerboy]

Why are you so busy being a blind idiot?

I'm not blind. I can only be an idiot if you admit you are. The guy is 2-4 in the finals. Stop with the horseshit excuses. I'm tired of it. Win or go home.

[Pauulzcappin]

If he loses, he's 2-4 in the finals and a Ray Allen miracle away from being 1-5.

Quite simply, he can never be compared to Jordan.

[The Giant]

If he loses, he's 2-4 in the finals and a Ray Allen miracle away from being 1-5.

Quite simply, he can never be compared to Jordan.

Insert Michael Jordan, in his prime, on this Cleveland Cavaliers team instead of Lebron James.

Would they have beaten Golden State?

[Ra77er]

No I do not think so.

[Eddy Munny]

I'm not blind. I can only be an idiot if you admit you are. The guy is 2-4 in the finals. Stop with the horseshit excuses. I'm tired of it. Win or go home.

Right, so in a game where one elite player can make a difference, and two can be a sea change, losing Irving and Love should have no bearing on the outcome of the NBA Finals, according to your twisted logic. Are you really this dumb? How many key losses can one team absorb before you acknowledge there exists a point of diminishing returns?

I mean, if Lebron was teamed up with four members of a Girl Scout troupe, would you still expect him to bring home the hardware, lest he be an impostor and a loser?

[Ebe]

Lakerboy dont post anymore you walking travesty.

[BigDofBA]

Insert Michael Jordan, in his prime, on this Cleveland Cavaliers team instead of Lebron James.

Would they have beaten Golden State?

Yeah, they would have won game 1 bc Jordan's team wouldn't have been shut out in OT. So they would be headed home to close it out in 6.

[Ra77er]

These idea's are all interesting. It would be fun to see it if possible.

[jjgold]

Michael Jordan got much easier shots than LeBron James because he was a much much better athlete

[The Giant]

Yeah, they would have won game 1 bc Jordan's team wouldn't have been shut out in OT. So they would be headed home to close it out in 6.

So, the first 48 minutes would have played out identical?

[Eddy Munny]

Yeah, they would have won game 1 bc Jordan's team wouldn't have been shut out in OT. So they would be headed home to close it out in 6.

So everything to date would have panned out exactly the same, except for the overtime period of game one. What a simpleton thing to say.

[The Giant]

So everything to date would have panned out exactly the same, except for the overtime period of game one. What a simpleton thing to say.

This is why I had to quit arguing with him a few pages ago.

Your tolerance for this kind of stuff far exceeds mine. God bless you, Eddy.

[Eddy Munny]

Jordan, with this glorified D-League squad, would have won jack squat. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.

[BigDofBA]

The fact that people take what I say literally is pretty disturbing.

I wonder what their social skills are in real life.

If people think Lebron is better than MJ, they're wrong but they can think what they want.

[Eddy Munny]

This is why I had to quit arguing with him a few pages ago.

Your tolerance for this kind of stuff far exceeds mine. God bless you, Eddy.

I'm about done with this thread too. There's really no point. The Lebron hate is so entrenched in their psyche, it supercedes basic critical thinking skills. You throw out what I perceive to be a rhetorical question with an obvious answer, and these clowns really believe Jordan would have won championships with scrubs like Delly at his side, even though he never won anything without some combo of Pippen/Grant or Pippen/Rodman/Kukoc and always had guys that could hit an open look, like Paxson or Kerr. Unreal.

[Ra77er]

I would say they have excellent social skills BigA.

[BigDofBA]

I said Lebron was top five of all time and people on this site still labeled me a "hater".

If you don't bow down and praise everything about him, you're just hating. LOL. OK.....whatever.

I don't hate Lebron. He isn't a bad dude an he is a freak of an athlete. I just don't think he is comparable to Jordan.

[jjgold]

Bigdoa pretty accurate

I guess Golden State does play excellent defense

[lakerboy]

" I'm the best player in the world" Lebron James


Clearing himself of any association with another finals loss.

[jjgold]

are his finals stats overrated??

I think many players can score 40 a game with all those shots right??

[lakerboy]

are his finals stats overrated??

I think many players can score 40 a game with all those shots right??

Not sure. He has to do everything.



If he knew how to shoot he would be scoring 50.

[jjgold]

Not sure. He has to do everything.



If he knew how to shoot he would be scoring 50.

good point

his close range shots are horrific

[nanderson1134]

The only thing you need to be clear on is the injuries vs a healthy team.

[kosmos4]

Lebron went to the finals with a college basketball team

MJ won against aliens with Bill Murray

/thread

[lakerboy]

Not sure why all these james fans bring up MJ. Must be an inferiority complex.

Michael played in the same era as bird/magic and isiah. Sorry but lebron is playing in the roy hibbert and Derek rose era.

[nyplayer33]

MJ won with a very very good 2nd player in Scotty Pippen. I dont think it is a valid argument to go with Lebron and his record in the finals. So many other things come into play with the nba..our oppenet, the other players around you etc. He clearly on this team is missing 2 stars...with love they would of won the series already.

[nyplayer33]

Please dont discuss eras of 20 years ago to today..the athletes are much faster and stronger then years back. With advances of physical fitness and such..it's much different.

[meader99]

Please dont discuss eras of 20 years ago to today..the athletes are much faster and stronger then years back. With advances of physical fitness and such..it's much different.

Youre right. 20-30 years ago the superstars like Bird, Magic and MJ made game winning shots. Today we have claims of James being the best ever, yet he can't make a game winner to save his ass, ie game 1 & 2.

[jjgold]

LeBron can't even make a layup he's the most unathletic superstar I've ever seen with real small hands

[Christopher1991]

LeBron can't even make a layup he's the most unathletic superstar I've ever seen with real small hands

Haha,never thought i would see the words 'unathletic ' and 'Lebron' in the same sentence.

[jjgold]

Just let him drive to the basket he misses every single shot he's basically closing his eyes and throwing it up