Funny how Lebron loses his two best teammates an no excuses for not winning, yet MJ never won without his sidekick
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LeBron will to score a lot just to maybe break a scoring record for one series in the finals
Never forget and it's overlooked a lot Michael Jordan 3 titles with the Hall of Famer Dennis Rodman who is one of the most high impact players in NBA historyComment -
I agree man I was referring to pippen as the sidekick the hate for Lebron makes no sense an the love for Jordan is the product of being a superstar in the 90s before the Internet an 500 channels to flip throughComment -
Rodman a Hall of Famer you can't put him in most categories he was a big timerComment -
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Funny, how he played with 2 other max contract players and he got beat on his home court for the title. While being 4 to 1 favorites.
4 to 1 favorite? against what team?
They were 2:1 dogs last year against San Antonio in the FinalsComment -
why are we comparing MJ and lebron? How about we talk about how both of them are whiny little B!tches.. One of them had to fake a flu and the other had to be carried off the court because of cramps.. MJ is the greatest of all time and I'm talking about the one with aids.Comment -
Phil Jackson wasn't a hall of fame coach until he coached Michael Jordan sir! If there was no Michael Jordan, Phil Jackson wouldn't be a hall of fame coach.
Michael Jordan didn't get to hand pick his team either. Scottie Pippen became a hall of famer playing alongside Michael Jordan. The Bulls developed their team. Jordan didn't pick up and go play with Magic Johnson or Larry Bird. Lebron ran to Miami to play with a superstar and a a star with Wade & Bosh. I would have the utmost respect for Lebron if he stayed in Cleveland and toughed it out and developed players and drafted young guys and won titles in Cleveland. I hope he never wins one in Cleveland, he's such a diva and cry baby. Can't stand the guy.Comment -
Teams want Lebron to shoot while teams try to take Jordan out of the game.
“They actually didn’t focus on me last year,” James said. “They didn’t guard me. I didn’t make shots … It wasn’t much of a game plan; they didn’t guard me.”
On the afternoon of April 3, 1988, Jordan embarrassed Detroit by scoring 59 points in a nationally televised game that Chicago won 112-110. That wasn’t the first time Jordan had worn out the Pistons—he had gone for 49, 47, 61 and 49 against them during various games in previous seasons. But after the 59-point effort, Detroit coach Chuck Daly had seen enough. “We made up our minds right then and there that Michael Jordan was not going to beat us by himself again,” says Daly. “We had to commit to a total team concept to get it done.”Comment -
Jordan is the GOAT and anybody with sense knows this. The man did a 3-Peat twice, lol. That's insane. He beat 2 Hall of Famers twice going up against Karl Malone & John Stockton. Jordan denied so many Hall of Famers rings because they couldn't beat him. Jordan was unstoppable. You give him the ball at the end of the game, you know it's going in. Not only do you know he's getting the ball, but you can't stop him. I saw Jordan double and triple teamed and they still couldn't stop him.
If Jordan was 35 right now he'd dominate the NBA. Jordan went 6-0 in Finals appearances. That means on the biggest stage, your not beating him. He raised the level of play of guys like Steve Kerr, BJ Armstrong, and many other role players. There is a reason Jordan is a billionaire and will be talked about forever, until the end of time. Because Michael Jordan is the G.O.A.T point blank period. Lebron is a manchild, and man amongst boys no doubt, but he's no Michael Jordan. He not even close to what Michael Jordan was.
Michael Jordan is a Legend!Comment -
id say being without your 2nd and 3rd best player and being over 2/1 dogs you dont need to come up with excuses why you loseComment -
yeah lebron aint jordan. he is more of a magic/bird type player. a better version of those players thoComment -
Jordan played against far better competition than this shit league now. Here is how i mark a superstar. Magic Johnson got a lot of press on how great he was but he was bigger than everyone he played against (guards) In the one finals Phil Jackson put Pippen on him and Magic became average. Someone his own size. Now James in his first finals got completely shut down by a good defender Bruce Bowan. Same thing happen against the Spurs last year because once again a good defender guarded him in Kwami. U put a solid defender on him and u see weakness. Nobody stop Jordan and there were some big name defenders back then. I wouldn't be surprised if the Cavs win tonight tho because that is how fix this league is. James will prolly go to the line over 20 times tonight. The big Russian can have a big game along with JR Smith but all the credit will go to James because people are so blinded by the talking heads to believe that. I think Lebron is a great player but like Shaq he isn't as great as these jackasses in the press make him out to be. Oh and i watched Iggy for ten years in Philly. He is an average defender at best who now is being called a great defender LMFAO.Comment -
No LeBron isn't Jordan they are different players with different styles even tho Bron has SOME Jordan likeness in his gm. When comparing these 2 if you go simply by finals records you are an idiot plain/simple and don't see the multitude of other various factors at play.Comment -
And Thor don't even give me your tired horseshit argument about how Jordan was beating so many great teams. Lakers were old washed up and end of glory, beat Pistons to get to a final very impressive right? Not really by end of that run Detroit had been to 3 straight finals, getting old themselves, and internal conflict = yet again good opportunistic timing for Bulls. Jazz? Yeah probably best duo they beat but not necessarily a world beater team. I just wish they had faced off with Rocks in mid 90's if MJ had not walked. Now that would have been a truly great series I think!Comment -
Back at ya pal! Guessing your under 30 and maybe didn't see whole show and just heard tales from big bro? Well I did witness it and know the gm cause I played it nuff said...
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Lol at Delly Boy.Comment -
Revisionist history is revised, MJ was leaving CHI if he didnt get help. He may not have hand picked his teammates but he ensured he had them. Players taking matters into their own hands is evolution imo.
Also, D in 90s was played sparingly. Now every body plays it or we call you Melo.Comment -
Great now jordan played bad teams in the finals.
Suns with kj/barkley and majerle. That was a very good team. That suns team had home court as well.
Sonics won 64 games the year they lost to jordan. Payton was in his prime.
Portland had a solid team. Drexler was in his prime. People actually were saying that year before the series that drexler was just as good as jordan.
The lakers were old but that series was tiight except game 2. It was Jordans time.
Those Utah teams were great teams led by one of the best coaches ever. It took a lot for the bulls to beat them.
As for houston I remember how they barely beat that shitty knicks team that barely scraped by the jordan less bulls.Comment -
LB make excuses all you want! As I've said NOT being a Jordan hater just realist. I got no problem with MJ and actually love him now and what he did. But seriously when did he ever beat Magic's Lakers, Larry's Celts, for that true defining win? Not saying MJ wasn't great and possibly best ever but sorry those wins over Sun's, Sonics etc don't do much for me sorry pal young teams loaded with losers who never did anything. Same can be said for Russell nut huggers with his 2 handful of rings vs 8 teams loaded with white midgets. What Magic did in 80's and Jordan did in 90's hands down more impressive.Comment -
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And using this theory everything done today is more impressive than what was done yesterday and every thing done tomorrow will be more impressive than what was done today.
I tend to agree with that but weigh the players against how dominant they were vs the league they were in. Russell was the most dominant player ever to play.Comment
