Betting The Ponies - Preakness Stakes

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  • DOM_Toretto
    Restricted User
    • 01-28-13
    • 9035

    #1
    Betting The Ponies - Preakness Stakes
    Preakness is Saturday and its chalk city. EASY MONEY TO BE MADE.

    INFO: Trainer Todd Pletcher pulled the same move he did last year to screw over California Chrome's Triple Crown chances. Pletcher pulled his four horses out of the Preakness Stakes in order to rest them for better chances at Belmont Stakes.

    Preakness is left with only 8 horses racing, a very small field - the smallest in 15 years.

    American Pharoah got stuck with a shit draw and has the inside lane which is bad for horses, a horse hasn't won in the 1 position in like 30 years or so.

    BUT Pharoah WILL win this race for a couple reasons:
    1) The sport needs him to win so there is hype for Belmont and Triple Crown potential.
    2) Pharoah ran 29ft further than Firing Line and 69 feet further than Dortmund and STILL won the Kentucky Derby. This time he won't have the chance to take the long way since he's on the inside.
    3) Pharoah is the only mudder of the bunch, and has won in a mud race before, and forecast calls for at least 30% chance of rain in Baltimore on Saturday.

    Firing Line was leading the Derby down the stretch and the Preakness is a bit shorter so he will do great.

    Dortmund took the lead first and foremost in Churchill and could also benefit from the shorter distance.

    These three horses are a shoe-in to make up the top three, but odds on each to Show probably won't be great.

    Can anyone take a stab at the odds for Trifecta Key for American Pharoah to win and then Dortmund and Firing Line to make up 2nd & 3rd in any order?????
  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #2
    If you know anything about horse racing picking three horses to hit the trifecta is very very difficult… Horseracing is always the unexpected and that is why everybody goes home broke daily
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    • StackinGreen
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-09-10
      • 12140

      #3
      The top four will be American Pharoah, Dortmund, Firing Line, and Divining Rod

      I'm taking a shot at Dortmund and Firing Line on top. The only other horse I'd consider underneath would be Danzig Moon, but hey

      2-1-8-7 sounds good to me
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      • Heppy10
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 05-15-09
        • 654

        #4
        The 5 just broke his maiden in a MSW for 54k and they put him straight in a g1, I have to bet him
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        • DOM_Toretto
          Restricted User
          • 01-28-13
          • 9035

          #5
          Originally posted by StackinGreen
          The top four will be American Pharoah, Dortmund, Firing Line, and Divining Rod

          I'm taking a shot at Dortmund and Firing Line on top. The only other horse I'd consider underneath would be Danzig Moon, but hey

          2-1-8-7 sounds good to me
          I like your thinking but problem is the trainer of American Pharoah also trains Dortmund. Does he really wanna screw his own chances of tripcrown?
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          • unusialsusp5
            SBR MVP
            • 04-18-10
            • 4198

            #6
            forget the trifecta's. go for the superfecta and play it like this: 1,8/1,2,8/1,2,8/w all/ and 1,8/1,2,8/w all/1,2,8 and hope to get a longshot to finish 3rd. otherwise you'll end up with chump change for a payout.
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            • DOM_Toretto
              Restricted User
              • 01-28-13
              • 9035

              #7
              Originally posted by unusialsusp5
              forget the trifecta's. go for the superfecta and play it like this: 1,8/1,2,8/1,2,8/w all/ and 1,8/1,2,8/w all/1,2,8 and hope to get a longshot to finish 3rd. otherwise you'll end up with chump change for a payout.
              Sorry I'm a little slow right now could u try to explain that better?

              Exhausted at gym, not a lot of blood in my brain
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              • trytrytry
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-13-06
                • 23650

                #8
                sportbet has that prop actually

                I like the no to be honest

                Preakness Stakes - Trifecta Box - Pimlico Race Course - Baltimore, MD
                8 horse field must run for action




                Sat 5/16 157 Am.Pharoah/Dortmund/FiringLine tri-box +325
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                • Bigbill365
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-22-12
                  • 4572

                  #9
                  horse racing is so degenerate how do you watch/bet without feeling like a full blown loser.
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                  • DRB
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 08-14-11
                    • 130

                    #10
                    DOM Toreto Given that we;re looking at a 7 horse field those trifectas will be around 20 dollars for a dollar with those 3 on top.
                    If you can get a bomb to run 3rd or 4th, take a shot at keying the superfecta. Using the horse that recently ran at Pimlico
                    is usually a good idea. Chances are the same 3 will NOT run 1-2-3 again.
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                    • Jeffie
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-06-12
                      • 3428

                      #11
                      Originally posted by trytrytry
                      sportbet has that prop actually

                      I like the no to be honest

                      Preakness Stakes - Trifecta Box - Pimlico Race Course - Baltimore, MD
                      8 horse field must run for action




                      Sat 5/16 157 Am.Pharoah/Dortmund/FiringLine tri-box +325
                      Not to bad of a price, great value. Although i think Firing Line ran his best race at churchill and will miss the board in Preakness.
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jeffie
                        Not to bad of a price, great value. Although i think Firing Line ran his best race at churchill and will miss the board in Preakness.
                        There is no value whatsoever, it is equivalent to a $2 TRIPLE paying $8.50!
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                        • Jeffie
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-06-12
                          • 3428

                          #13
                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                          There is no value whatsoever, it is equivalent to a $2 TRIPLE paying $8.50!
                          True, but i mean have u seen the field or follow horse racing? Its literally AP Dortmund Firing line and then a couple gate fillers.
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                          • LT Profits
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-27-06
                            • 90963

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jeffie
                            True, but i mean have u seen the field or follow horse racing? Its literally AP Dortmund Firing line and then a couple gate fillers.
                            Right but what would the actual triple pay on track? I'd guess in the $10 to $15 range considering relatively large pool.
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                            • DrunkHorseplayer
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 05-15-10
                              • 7719

                              #15
                              The inside post is a non-factor given AP's speed and the small field; this race is completely unbettable barring some unusually large odds at post time.
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                              • DOM_Toretto
                                Restricted User
                                • 01-28-13
                                • 9035

                                #16
                                What's unbettable?

                                I'm telling you who the top 3 horses WILL be... We just need to figure out in which order they will finish.
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                                • sweep
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-09-10
                                  • 16753

                                  #17
                                  pharoah will be an also ran here, Espinoza beat the piss outa that horse in the derby

                                  prob be on the shelf til breeders cup after this race
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                                  • agendaman
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-01-11
                                    • 3732

                                    #18
                                    lousy race in itself to bet on--i got this prop at 5 dimes pharoah to win preakness but not belmont at +180 not bad
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                                    • Bigbill365
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 06-22-12
                                      • 4572

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by agendaman
                                      lousy race in itself to bet on--i got this prop at 5 dimes pharoah to win preakness but not belmont at +180 not bad
                                      wow thats a fukin good ass bet theres gona be several fresh horses waiting for him if he wins preakness which now he has a 1-8 shot shot.
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                                      • ramones951
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-23-08
                                        • 2356

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                        BUT Pharoah WILL win this race for a couple reasons:
                                        1) The sport needs him to win so there is hype for Belmont and Triple Crown potential.
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                                        • Jayvegas420
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 03-09-11
                                          • 28213

                                          #21
                                          Sweeper, you're fukkin crazy, man!
                                          AP's gonna at least show.
                                          Firing line is the only other horse that will keep pace
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                                          • DrunkHorseplayer
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 05-15-10
                                            • 7719

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                            What's unbettable?

                                            I'm telling you who the top 3 horses WILL be... We just need to figure out in which order they will finish.
                                            It all looks so easy before the race; I might go with a 4/1,7,8 exacta if I can get at least 15-1 on the 4 horse.
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                                            • DOM_Toretto
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 01-28-13
                                              • 9035

                                              #23
                                              Don't even consider the other 5 horses guys... The 3 I mentioned are only ones with a chance.
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                                              • THam12
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-12-13
                                                • 12640

                                                #24
                                                Im thinking of 2 superfecta boxes....

                                                1,2,8,4
                                                1,2,8,7

                                                awful idea?
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                                                • INVEGA MAN
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-30-08
                                                  • 6800

                                                  #25
                                                  If top 3 in tri, i dont care what order, it wont pay shit in a 8 horse field. The only way you will get a price is if top horse is out of the money.
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                                                  • StackinGreen
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-09-10
                                                    • 12140

                                                    #26
                                                    Not true if people aren't touching Dortmund (currently 8-1) and he wins. It's a pool, so it's all dependent on the various amounts bet on each combo. If you have a tri where the 3/5 favorite is NOT on top, of course it'll pay.
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                                                    • floridagolfer
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-19-08
                                                      • 2757

                                                      #27
                                                      I'll pass on the Preakness. I'd be shocked if the first three horses weren't, in some order, 1-2-8. I have no interest in pushing my money through the betting windows to win a $5.20 exacta or a trifecta worth $11. Yes, upsets do happen . . .

                                                      Good luck to everyone.
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                                                      • floridagolfer
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-19-08
                                                        • 2757

                                                        #28
                                                        If these are $1 bets, I think you'll lose money.
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                                                        • Boner_18
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 08-24-08
                                                          • 8301

                                                          #29
                                                          I see no reason it does't play out exactly like the KY Derby. I also believe that something shifty is going on with Baffert's owners and believe Dortmund will run the exact same pace. 1,8,2 all sorts of ways and saving capital for the belmont... The preakness undercard sucks too.
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