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  • Chi_archie
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-22-08
    • 63172

    #1
    Kris Bryant and Bryce Harper
    Just an FYI that is fun to think about

    Bryant is 23 years old and has 60 career mlb AB's
    Harper is 22 years old and has 63 career mlb HRs



    and Mike Trout at 23 is still the best young talent in the MLB
  • The Giant
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-21-12
    • 21480

    #2
    Who would you rather have? Bryant or Harper?
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    • Seaweed
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      • 01-19-12
      • 26318

      #3
      Harper
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      • Ra77er
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 06-20-11
        • 10969

        #4
        Probably Harper but that's only because I haven't seen enough of Bryant yet.
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        • Vegas39
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          • 09-22-11
          • 30686

          #5
          Originally posted by The Giant
          Who would you rather have? Bryant or Harper?
          Bryant
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          • frogsrangers
            Restricted User
            • 04-25-12
            • 5792

            #6
            Trout is over rated and will get busted for juicing eventually

            At least Harper and Bryant are clean
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            • Chi_archie
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-22-08
              • 63172

              #7
              Originally posted by The Giant
              Who would you rather have? Bryant or Harper?
              for the length and amounts of their contracts?

              I'd roll the dice with Bryant and his upside for 7 years and at a discount

              but for 2015+2016 Bryce would prob be the better player to "have" and only owe a total of 7.5 million (2.5 in 2015 and 5 in 2016)
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              • Ghenghis Kahn
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-02-12
                • 19734

                #8
                Originally posted by The Giant
                Who would you rather have? Bryant or Harper?
                trout
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                • Ghenghis Kahn
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-02-12
                  • 19734

                  #9
                  Originally posted by frogsrangers
                  Trout is over rated and will get busted for juicing eventually

                  At least Harper and Bryant are clean
                  is that in the script?
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                  • broadway6
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 11-14-09
                    • 13337

                    #10
                    It's to early to pick between Bryant and Harper. Bryant needs at least a year under his belt.

                    But if the question has to be answered today, how can you not take Harper? He blew up in the playoffs last year when the rest of his team couldn't hit. He's not afraid of the big moment.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      All of them have a zero personality which will not help promote the game… Harper has a mechanical swinging and fails too much
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                      • Chi_archie
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-22-08
                        • 63172

                        #12
                        promote the game?

                        MLB is just about unpromote-able anymore unless you are trying to promote to 50+ year old white dudes or to children that live on any of the dozens of mexican speaking mexicancountries that 25% of the players come from....

                        mexiCAN countries like the DominiCAN republic CAN be a new market

                        or even the china-man countries like korea and japan

                        chinks like the baseball

                        13 year old american kids, any brown americans, any women?

                        not so much
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                        • pavyracer
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-12-07
                          • 82839

                          #13
                          I'd take Freddie Freeman.
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                          • jt315
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-12-11
                            • 21989

                            #14
                            Originally posted by frogsrangers
                            Trout is over rated and will get busted for juicing eventually

                            At least Harper and Bryant are clean
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              Baseball is dead

                              most people have no idea who Harper is
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                              • trobin31
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-09-14
                                • 9854

                                #16
                                From what I've seen so far from Harper his swing has too much slice to his swing which doesn't seem to alllow much of the opposite field. He has a good eye and doesn't chase much, but there is much of the plate he is unable to utilize resulting in popups and flyouts to left field. He has incredible torque amd effort to his swing which I don't feel allows him to keep his bat in the strike zone for long. Harper has potential to be a .290-.310 hitter with 25-35 hr/yrs over the next 10years.

                                I've only seen Kris Bryant bat a handful of times but I see a much more easy, effortless swing similar to Miguel Cabrera that stays in the strike zone longer which allows him to use all parts of the field. I had heard he strikes out quite a bit. But sometimes that happens in the minor leagues as pitchers can be all over the place and swinging at balls is more frequent.

                                Gun to my head I would take Kris Bryant. I'm not sure what his upside is but I like the swing and I'm fairly certain of Harpers ceiling.
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                                • Fidel_CashFlow
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 12-03-12
                                  • 53970

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                  Just an FYI that is fun to think about

                                  Bryant is 23 years old and has 60 career mlb AB's
                                  Harper is 22 years old and has 63 career mlb HRs



                                  and Mike Trout at 23 is still the best young talent in the MLB
                                  Originally posted by The Giant
                                  Who would you rather have? Bryant or Harper?

                                  Matt Carpenter of course ?
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                                  • Kermit
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                                    • 09-27-10
                                    • 32555

                                    #18
                                    Harper seems kind of douchey.
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                                    • packerd_00
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-22-13
                                      • 17811

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Kermit
                                      Harper seems kind of douchey.
                                      You got that right
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                                      • Big Bear
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 11-01-11
                                        • 43253

                                        #20
                                        Harper.

                                        Lefty bats are more valuable and Bryant is a horrible defender.


                                        Lets see Bryant hit dingers in 1 game at the MLB level.
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                                        • Big Bear
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 11-01-11
                                          • 43253

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                          All of them have a zero personality which will not help promote the game… Harper has a mechanical swinging and fails too much
                                          personality? haha why does that matter?

                                          Bryant has that my shit dont stink attitude and pretty boy thing going on

                                          Trout is a typical meat head. Not much to him , very simple person. Eat, Lift , Baseball , repeat.

                                          Harper is def the most flamboyant and has the most flair
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #22
                                            Trout is the best out of all of them

                                            Natural player
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                                            • Chi_archie
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-22-08
                                              • 63172

                                              #23
                                              Stanton is only 25
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                When most kids do not even know who Harper is its time to give up on the game
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                                                • upscope
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-26-11
                                                  • 2837

                                                  #25
                                                  Bryant
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                                                  • Big Bear
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 11-01-11
                                                    • 43253

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Chi_archie
                                                    Stanton is only 25
                                                    yeah but Stanton's swing is kind of long

                                                    also he is kind of a pull hitter

                                                    rarely does hit HR's to opposite field
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      Kids burn baseball cards now in NJ

                                                      They hate the game
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                                                      • Chi_archie
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-22-08
                                                        • 63172

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                        yeah but Stanton's swing is kind of long

                                                        also he is kind of a pull hitter

                                                        rarely does hit HR's to opposite field




                                                        the black dots are HR's

                                                        <iframe src="http://www.fangraphs.com/graphframe.aspx?config=0&static=0&type=s pray&num=1&h=450&w=450&players=4949&posi tion=OF&mt=battedball&ss=2014&se=2014&ch t=battedball&pos=ALL&vs=ALL" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" height="450" width="450" style="border:1px solid black;"></iframe>
                                                        Source: FanGraphs
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                                                        • TheLock
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 04-06-08
                                                          • 14427

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Big Bear

                                                          rarely does hit HR's to opposite field

                                                          I think this is incorrect
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                                                          • TheLock
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 04-06-08
                                                            • 14427

                                                            #30
                                                            I'm still LOL'ing at Freddie Freeman over Trout, Harper and Stanton.


                                                            lolololololtrolololtroll
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                                                            • Big Bear
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 11-01-11
                                                              • 43253

                                                              #31
                                                              good stuff


                                                              i like that chart
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                                                              • Chi_archie
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 07-22-08
                                                                • 63172

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                                yeah but Stanton's swing is kind of long

                                                                also he is kind of a pull hitter

                                                                rarely does hit HR's to opposite field

                                                                Harper is kind of a pull hitter

                                                                <iframe src="http://www.fangraphs.com/graphframe.aspx?config=0&static=0&type=s pray&num=1&h=450&w=450&players=11579&pos ition=OF&mt=battedball&ss=2014&se=2014&c ht=hittype&pos=ALL&vs=ALL" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" height="450" width = "450" style="border:1px solid black;"></iframe><br /><span style="font-size:9pt;">Source: <a href="http://www.fangraphs.com/spraycharts.aspx?playerid=11579&position =OF&type=battedball&ss1=2014&se1=2014&ch t1=hittype&pos1=ALL&vs1=ALL">FanGraphs</a></span>
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                                                                • TheLock
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 04-06-08
                                                                  • 14427

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by TheLock
                                                                  I'm still LOL'ing at Freddie Freeman over Trout, Harper and Stanton.


                                                                  lolololololtrolololtroll

                                                                  2011-2014

                                                                  Freddie Freeman WAR: 11.4

                                                                  Giancarlo Stanton WAR: 18.5
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                                                                  • TheLock
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 04-06-08
                                                                    • 14427

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Freddie Freeman

                                                                    2012-2014 WAR: 10.8

                                                                    Mike Trout

                                                                    2012-2014 WAR: 28.8
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                                                                    • Chi_archie
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-22-08
                                                                      • 63172

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Bryant still looking for HR number 1

                                                                      Bryce hits two more tonight
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