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  • Da Manster!
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    • 07-13-07
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    #1
    Brewers fire manager Ron Roenicke
    no real surprise.

  • texhooper
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    • 01-05-09
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    #2
    so in baseball, does the "take the team who had their coach fired in the next game" theory apply?
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    • Big Bear
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      • 11-01-11
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      #3
      they should have fired him after a loss instead of after a win

      that is poor taste
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      • jjgold
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        • 07-20-05
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        #4
        Managers do not mean a lot in baseball there bad regardless
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        • CDUBB_CW
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          • 07-12-14
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          #5
          I honestly think Gibbons is the worse in terms of strategic planning.
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          • Da Manster!
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            • 07-13-07
            • 17596

            #6
            agreed...but the like the old saying goes...don't fire someone unless you have someone better to replace him with!......I wonder who in the hell do they have in mind or better yet who in the hell would want that job?!...
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            • Big Bear
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              • 11-01-11
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              #7
              Brad Ausmus is pretty dumb

              his team wins despite of him
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              • stevenash
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                • 01-17-11
                • 66110

                #8
                Originally posted by jjgold
                Managers do not mean a lot in baseball there bad regardless
                When Sparky Anderson was asked how many games does a good manager mean to a team, and how many games does a bad manager mean to a team, Sparky responded, "maybe three games either way at most"

                And yet there are idiots here that think managers are the be all end all.
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                • Big Bear
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                  • 11-01-11
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Da Manster!
                  agreed...but the like the old saying goes...don't fire someone unless you have someone better to replace him with!......I wonder who in the hell do they have in mind or better yet who in the hell would want that job?!...
                  Dusty Baker maybe?

                  Moses Alou perhaps?

                  or maybe even

                  Ryan Sandberg
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                  • stevenash
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                    • 01-17-11
                    • 66110

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Big Bear
                    they should have fired him after a loss instead of after a win

                    that is poor taste
                    Why?
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                    • existential
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                      • 07-21-14
                      • 2963

                      #11
                      they should just dissolve that pathetic franchise while at it, along with the Bucks.

                      couldn't imagine living in the shit hole known as Milwaukee surrounded by the dregs of society. why are there pro teams still there?
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                      • stevenash
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                        • 01-17-11
                        • 66110

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                        or maybe even

                        Ryan Sandberg
                        #1 It's spelled Ryne
                        #2 He has a job
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                        • Big Bear
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                          • 11-01-11
                          • 43253

                          #13
                          Originally posted by stevenash
                          Why?
                          out of principle

                          what if the Brewers were about to win 10 straight?

                          they fired a coach on a 2 game winning streak
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                          • stevenash
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                            • 01-17-11
                            • 66110

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Big Bear
                            out of principle

                            what if the Brewers were about to win 10 straight?

                            they fired a coach on a 2 game winning streak
                            What principle?
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                            • Fang-Banger
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                              • 10-04-10
                              • 2805

                              #15
                              Originally posted by stevenash
                              #1 It's spelled Ryne
                              #2 He has a job
                              Such a snoot
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                              • Da Manster!
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                                • 07-13-07
                                • 17596

                                #16
                                Originally posted by texhooper
                                so in baseball, does the "take the team who had their coach fired in the next game" theory apply?
                                good question, Tex...I guess it all depends on the players felt about their former coach vs. who they are bringing in or who the interim coach will be.
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                                • seaborneq
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                                  • 09-08-06
                                  • 22556

                                  #17
                                  Were the brewers supposed to win the central this year?
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                                  • stevenash
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                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 66110

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Fang-Banger
                                    Such a snoot
                                    Me?
                                    If so, what makes me a snoot?
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                                    • stevenash
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                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 66110

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by seaborneq
                                      Were the brewers supposed to win the central this year?
                                      Well, Pitt was the sexy pick.
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                                      • seaborneq
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                                        • 09-08-06
                                        • 22556

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                        Well, Pitt was the sexy pick.
                                        Early pole position belongs to the cardinals. Might as well fire Francona too, his team is in last place too
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                                        • Da Manster!
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                                          • 07-13-07
                                          • 17596

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                          When Sparky Anderson was asked how many games does a good manager mean to a team, and how many games does a bad manager mean to a team, Sparky responded, "maybe three games either way at most"

                                          And yet there are idiots here that think managers are the be all end all.
                                          Nash,
                                          We've had this discussion before...I'm somewhere in the middle...Managers are definitely not the be all, end all but I do think that there certainly is a profound difference between good/great managers vs. bad/horrible ones...Sparky Anderson, Tony LaRussa, Joe Torre, Jim Leyland, Tom Lasorda, etc. have always won everywhere they went or been regardless of players, talent, etc...I can't but help to think that if Torre or LaRussa were managing those Braves teams of the 90's with Maddux, Smoltz, and Glavine (three HOF'ers in the starting rotation!!) that Atlanta would have won at least 5 world series titles during that era of dominance...but sorry ass Bobby Cox (who the players loved and was considered a players coach) only won one title.
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                                          • stevenash
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                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 66110

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by seaborneq
                                            Early pole position belongs to the cardinals. Might as well fired Francona too, his team is in last place too
                                            Cards do have the most talent.
                                            Loss of Wainwright is going to hurt them.
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                                            • jtoler
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                                              • 12-17-13
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                                              #23
                                              Lol at Sparky, 3 games.
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                                              • ericthegangster
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                                                • 12-10-09
                                                • 1764

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Da Manster!
                                                agreed...but the like the old saying goes...don't fire someone unless you have someone better to replace him with!......I wonder who in the hell do they have in mind or better yet who in the hell would want that job?!...
                                                Craig Counsell is my guess.
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                                                • chico2663
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                                                  • 09-02-10
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                                  When Sparky Anderson was asked how many games does a good manager mean to a team, and how many games does a bad manager mean to a team, Sparky responded, "maybe three games either way at most"

                                                  And yet there are idiots here that think managers are the be all end all.
                                                  all i know is before dusty baker. no playoffs. after dusty baker no playoffs. go reds
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                                                  • chico2663
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                                                    • 09-02-10
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                                                    #26
                                                    peter rose managed reds to 3 straight 2nd place finishes and davey johnson win world series next year with same players
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                                                    • stevenash
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                                                      • 01-17-11
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jtoler
                                                      Lol at Sparky, 3 games.
                                                      Since you know more than Anderson, how many games do you think a manager is worth?
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                                                      • Art Vandelay
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                                                        • 09-11-06
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                                                        #28
                                                        Finally! Too bad its 7 months too late. The way last season ended was bad enough - now this season is shot! Had to do something to stop this trainwreck...
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                                                        • Big Bear
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                                                          • 11-01-11
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jtoler
                                                          Lol at Sparky, 3 games.
                                                          yeah sparky is a fukkin idiot
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                                                          • ericthegangster
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                                                            • 12-10-09
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ericthegangster
                                                            Craig Counsell is my guess.
                                                            Bink.
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                                                            • Da Manster!
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                                                              • 07-13-07
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ericthegangster
                                                              Bink.
                                                              now, you only need 12 more predictions to get caught up with Seaweed!.......good call!...
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                                                              • Vegas39
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                                                                • 09-22-11
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                                yeah sparky is a fukkin idiot
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                                                                • jjgold
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                                                                  • 07-20-05
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  I remember the Brewers used to be pretty good in baseball but it's been all downhill for the most part and I think this is a franchise going nowhere moving forward
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                                                                  • Big Bear
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                                                                    • 11-01-11
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                    I remember the Brewers used to be pretty good in baseball but it's been all downhill for the most part and I think this is a franchise going nowhere moving forward
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                                                                    • ericthegangster
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                                                                      • 12-10-09
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                                      I remember the Brewers used to be pretty good in baseball but it's been all downhill for the most part and I think this is a franchise going nowhere moving forward
                                                                      They have a lot of valuable pieces to move and replenish the farm. Look for this team to make some noise in about 3-5 years.

                                                                      Carlos Gomez on a club friendly contract will generate a lot of interest

                                                                      Jonathan lucroy on a club friendly contract will generate a lot of interest

                                                                      Kyle lohse will be dealt to a team needing a solid man to round out their rotation

                                                                      Matt garza could be dealt

                                                                      Gerardo parra could be worth something in a trade for a team needing an outfielder

                                                                      Brewers bullpen has a bunch of decent arms that could generate interest.

                                                                      Aramis Ramirez has one year left and has announced he will retire. He could generate some interest and will likely want to compete for a ring in his final year.

                                                                      Wily penalta and jimmy Nelson could be a decent foundation for a future rotation. I hope they hold onto these guys.

                                                                      Jury is out on scooter gennet and jean segura. segura showed what he is capable of 2 years ago but has been inconsistent over the last 1.5 years. These two guys could be a solid basis for the future.

                                                                      Ryan Braun is on a big contract for the next 5 years Which could be painful if his success was really due to juicing and if he can't stay healthy. This is a major concern.

                                                                      I like the future for the Brewers, but it is going to be a rocky 2-3 years for sure.
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