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  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #1
    Don't do the crime if you can't do the time
    I built a bankroll of $1,000 into well over $7,000 by betting $20 a unit between 2012 and late fall. Had wildly successful seasons in MLB and NFL. Always won in the NBA. Even after struggling to stay afloat in college sports every year, I was still sitting in great shape overall.

    In mid-November, I got a new job that required more actual work and less "free" time at the desk and away from the computer. Also had a new baby added to our growing family, while losing three older family members in a matter of months.

    So at that point, I started getting sloppy with my handicapping. Taking shortcuts. Throwing more live bets and last-minute hail marys into the equation. I had been successful before balancing the "real" world with my gambling, but a lot of external circumstances and pressures took me away from doing the actual research and legwork that helped make me a successful gambler in the first place.

    I knew deep down that I couldn't keep burning the candle at both ends, but I tried to anyway once basketball started. I was trying to bet the NFL, bowl season, college basketball and the NBA all at once, while dealing with everything that had changed in my life. I started losing. I started betting bigger and chasing. I lost more.

    Today, after six short months that seem like an eternity in retrospect, my aggregate balance in the three active books adds up to $1,241. I was up over 300 units across the board in all sports over a two-plus year period of time. I'm down almost 280 units during this recent stretch.

    It's taken a lot of humiliating losses to make me realize that unless I can start to put a lot more time into capping again -- time I really don't have unless I cut sleep out of the equation -- I'm not only spinning my wheels, but I will continue to lose. Period. There is no magic formula, short cut or quick fix. No substitute for research. You can't just wish and hope your way out of a slump, or expect to lay down a bet blind 5 minutes before a game and win.

    I didn't make every bet foolishly or recklessly. But a lot of times, I wasn't prepared. And once the losses started to mount, so did the chases. I have lost four straight bets of 20 or more units (for me, over $400 each time) between college and the NBA.

    Bottom line (TL; DR): don't gamble if you are just "trying" to win or "expecting" to get lucky. Work hard, find an edge, pound your angles. If you can't put the necessary work into the process, you're just wasting your time.

    And your money.
  • Hu$tle
    SBR MVP
    • 03-31-15
    • 1365

    #2
    Bottom line (TL; DR): don't gamble if you are just "trying" to win or "expecting" to get lucky. Work hard, find an edge, pound your angles. If you can't put the necessary work into the process, you're just wasting your time.And your money.
    Good post! Find your weaknesses and tendencies that lose often and avoid them. Mine are chasing live bets and most over/unders. Sometimes less is more, make your bets count.
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    • opie1988
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-12-10
      • 23429

      #3
      Congrats on the new baby, pal.

      That's a way better high than you could ever get from gambling.

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      • No coincidences
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 01-18-10
        • 76300

        #4
        Originally posted by opie1988
        Congrats on the new baby, pal.

        That's a way better high than you could ever get from gambling.

        Absolutely, opie. It's been a banner year for me away from gambling.

        I just wish I wasn't dumb enough to think I could do it all without skipping a beat.
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        • texhooper
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-05-09
          • 10001

          #5
          did you ever take a payout during this process?
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388208

            #6
            Most of us just bet for the action and the rush to ease other issues we are dealing with
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            • unluckysob
              SBR MVP
              • 05-21-08
              • 1527

              #7
              it is not gambling---it is investing.
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              • itchypickle
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-05-09
                • 21452

                #8
                Family first NoCoin...good job pal.Swings are rough. Stay in it for the long haul, grind it out on the side but don't get frustrated. Long as you have bankroll money AND life roll money (steady income) you're way ahead of 90% of the board I believe.
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                • EaglesPhan36
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-06-06
                  • 71662

                  #9
                  Live Bets are the devil.
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                  • tony_come
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-31-10
                    • 21695

                    #10
                    It's your money
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                    • The Giant
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-21-12
                      • 21480

                      #11
                      You're better than me, No Coin. If I went from $7000, down to $1200, I'd be pushing all-in.

                      Sorry for the losses in your life, and I hope you climb out of the hole. Good luck.
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                      • eidolon
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-02-08
                        • 9547

                        #12
                        go put it on black 6 on roulette.
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388208

                          #13
                          Coins you might need GA
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                          • DiggityDaggityDo
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 11-30-08
                            • 81463

                            #14
                            Originally posted by opie1988
                            Congrats on the new baby, pal.

                            That's a way better high than you could ever get from gambling.

                            I dunno, Opie.

                            I would much rather sweat out a 5 team parlay than change a shitty diaper.
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                            • existential
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-21-14
                              • 2963

                              #15
                              Originally posted by tony_come
                              It's your money
                              not any longer.. i think that was the whole point of his dissertation.
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                              • lakerboy
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-02-09
                                • 94463

                                #16
                                This happened to me as well. I used to have more time. Now I just waste money. It's all good though I'm rich.
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                                • Sam Odom
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-30-05
                                  • 58063

                                  #17
                                  Sorry to read this... Am sad
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                                  • t-wizzle
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 12-18-09
                                    • 38099

                                    #18
                                    No coin got his comeuppance. Talked a bunch of shit for months and now he's buried deep.
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                                    • No coincidences
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-18-10
                                      • 76300

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Sam Odom
                                      Sorry to read this... Am sad
                                      No big deal. I didn't lose a single penny from my initial bankroll. Cashed out at my three books recently (after losing a Pittsburgh bet when they stranded 18 runners on base) with a few bucks more than I started ($1,161 to be exact). I'll re-deposit sometime later in the MLB season. Much-needed break away from the grind.
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                                      • Sam Odom
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-30-05
                                        • 58063

                                        #20
                                        Not Joking NC... You'll get it back soon. Just regroup and do what you KNOW is the right way to bet
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                                        • Big Bear
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 11-01-11
                                          • 43253

                                          #21
                                          for a guy who doesnt gamble he sure spends a lot of time on the forum

                                          maybe he is still betting but doesnt want to post plays b/c of fear of hurting his reputation
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                                          • No coincidences
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 01-18-10
                                            • 76300

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Big Bear
                                            for a guy who doesnt gamble he sure spends a lot of time on the forum

                                            maybe he is still betting but doesnt want to post plays b/c of fear of hurting his reputation
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                                            • Vegas39
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 09-22-11
                                              • 30686

                                              #23
                                              Whats funny NC the loser bear likes to talk shit to you but sure seems to value your opinion
                                              Originally posted by Big Bear
                                              Coiner any leans for tomorrow?
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                                              • No coincidences
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 01-18-10
                                                • 76300

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Vegas39
                                                Whats funny NC the loser bear likes to talk shit to you but sure seems to value your opinion
                                                He is a manic-depressive schizophrenic.
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                                                • Vegas39
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 09-22-11
                                                  • 30686

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                  He is a manic-depressive schizophrenic.
                                                  add in compulsive lair
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                                                  • BrickJames
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 05-05-11
                                                    • 9749

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by unluckysob
                                                    it is not gambling---it is investing.
                                                    Investing = Gambling
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                                                    • jtoler
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 12-17-13
                                                      • 30982

                                                      #27
                                                      Thought you were 60+ NC, no way you're still raiding the hen house making babies.
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                                                      • Big Bear
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 11-01-11
                                                        • 43253

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jtoler
                                                        Thought you were 60+ NC, no way you're still raiding the hen house making babies.
                                                        same here

                                                        his posting style made me believe he was atleast 60

                                                        came across as the grumpy old man type

                                                        like that dude from the movie "Grumpier Old Men"
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                                                        • No coincidences
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-18-10
                                                          • 76300

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jtoler
                                                          Thought you were 60+ NC, no way you're still raiding the hen house making babies.
                                                          Knocking on 40's door.
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                                                          • Big Bear
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 11-01-11
                                                            • 43253

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                            Knocking on 40's door.
                                                            39?
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                                                            • No coincidences
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-18-10
                                                              • 76300

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                              39?
                                                              No, 26.

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                                                              • lakerboy
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-02-09
                                                                • 94463

                                                                #32
                                                                No coin is a very respected person on here. I value his opinion.
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                                                                • STAX
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-01-13
                                                                  • 3718

                                                                  #33
                                                                  One of the best posts Ive seen here on SBR... being honest with yourself is the most important step in being a successful gambler. No doubt you will get it back NoCoincidences! Good luck... the future is NOW
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                                                                  • No coincidences
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-18-10
                                                                    • 76300

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by STAX
                                                                    One of the best posts Ive seen here on SBR... being honest with yourself is the most important step in being a successful gambler. No doubt you will get it back NoCoincidences! Good luck... the future is NOW
                                                                    Thanks.

                                                                    To be honest, I'll probably be back in the game next week. I'm heading out of town for a while, but I'll be back around Tuesday or Wednesday and that's usually when I get the itch -- especially with baseball.

                                                                    I have been writing leans down over the past few days, and I would have absolutely destroyed both MLB and the NBA Playoffs. Figures.
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                                                                    • mikewlgm
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 04-04-15
                                                                      • 1031

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I had to figure out that some days you are just gonna lose some money and to just leave it at that...trying to chase it back when you've already had a rough day just leads you to make bad bets trying to make the loses back.

                                                                      Also doesn't hurt to take some time off if you've been going through a rough streak.
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