Michigan State +1200 to win it all

HockeyGuruNHL · 03-25-15, 12:47 AM

Originally posted by The Giant

This price is horrific.

this, lol

KRIT · 03-25-15, 12:50 AM

Anyone else betting against Sparty in the sweet16?

No coincidences · 03-25-15, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by The Giant

It's the most stupefying bet I've ever seen Lakerboy make......even if it wins.

He has to understand that these odds are atrocious.

We as gamblers can't control the outcome on the court, but we can do our best to get the best lines available. This one isn't even close.

This.

It isn't about arguing whether or not MSU could theoretically get to the Final Four, or even the championship game. Even if they somehow do win it all (basically impossible), +1200 is an atrocious number given the actual odds of it happening.

No coincidences · 03-25-15, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by KRIT

Anyone else betting against Sparty in the sweet16?

I'm not, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Oklahoma beat them. Better guards, solid defense, good coach. Should be a great game. Winner probably goes to the Final Four.

Jayvegas420 · 03-25-15, 02:13 AM

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smoke a bowl · 03-25-15, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

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That bet is so bad it makes my stomach hurt.

joeye · 03-29-15, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by smoke a bowl

That bet is so bad it makes my stomach hurt.

well, it looks like what I call a fun bet. small bet on a longshot

Jayvegas420 · 03-29-15, 11:55 AM

lakerboy · 03-29-15, 11:25 PM

Well I can see mich st beating duke.

STAX · 03-29-15, 11:31 PM

Spartans are +1400 right now, lmao

Jayvegas420 · 03-30-15, 12:05 AM

They move closer to the title & become bigger dogs?

STAX · 03-30-15, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

They move closer to the title & become bigger dogs?

lmao, i guess... +1200 was horrid price earlier I guess... or maybe because Duke, Kentucky, Wisconsin all won? i dont know, they aint winning it anyways

capone1899 · 03-30-15, 12:33 AM

Idiots got such a bad price that line line is higher now. +1400 with 4 teams left and they took +1200 two rounds ago.

Tried to tell you. And to the goof who took +1000, well done lol

Jayvegas420 · 03-30-15, 01:12 AM

You tried to tell us that the line would improve the more games they win.
I missed reading that.
Do you have a link?
I'm kinda stupid, so I need a little help here.

lakerboy · 03-30-15, 06:59 AM

They are +821 at pinny. Who has +1400?

TheDarkPassenger · 03-30-15, 10:27 AM

5Dimes has +1350

Big Bear · 03-30-15, 11:45 AM

Lakerboy are you going to hedge?

meader99 · 03-30-15, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Well I can see mich st beating duke.

No.

lakerboy · 03-30-15, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by Big Bear

Lakerboy are you going to hedge?

No. Mich st will be in the final.

swordsandtequila · 03-30-15, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by lakerboy

No. Mich st will be in the final.

Nope.

lakerboy · 03-30-15, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by swordsandtequila

Nope.

Yup

capone1899 · 03-30-15, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

You tried to tell us that the line would improve the more games they win.
I missed reading that.
Do you have a link?
I'm kinda stupid, so I need a little help here.

Told you how get a better line.

From page 2:
"Are you freaking nuts!!!!

You'd get WAYYYYYYY better than +1200 by just betting the MSU ML and rolling it the next 4 games.

They are -130 now. They'll be approximately the same(-130) versus LOU-NC ST, they'll be approximately +300 to Duke or +200 to Zaga, and around +300 or more against Kentucky. Parlaying those odds you'd get +4908 if they play Duke and +3656 if they play Zaga.

Not a smart play"

They were -130 then, -120 to Ville, +210 now, and projected +300 against Kentucky which is +3922, which is a hell of a lot higher than +1200 you tard

Jayvegas420 · 03-30-15, 03:55 PM

You're multiplying moneylines together to come up with 40to1 odds?

lakerboy · 03-30-15, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

You're multiplying moneylines together to come up with 40to1 odds?

Yup and if the first one loses you pay juice.

smoke a bowl · 03-30-15, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

You're multiplying moneylines together to come up with 40to1 odds?

Yes, its the exact same thing as betting them to win it all. Except you will come out a ton better playing them on moneyline every game. It's a lot easier to hide juice/vig on a future like Mich St to win it all than it is to hide juice/vig on any 2 way line.

KRIT · 03-30-15, 04:51 PM

Duke will beat Michigan St with ease. Only hope Michigan St has is Izzo.

chico2663 · 03-30-15, 04:54 PM

well i got 45-1 before tip off so im rooting for lakerboy

No coincidences · 03-30-15, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

Duke will beat Michigan St with ease. Only hope Michigan St has is Izzo.

Of course, you could've filled in the blank there with Virginia, Oklahoma and Louisville as well.

Duke is better than MSU roster-wise, but so were those teams.

meader99 · 03-30-15, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

Duke will beat Michigan St with ease. Only hope Michigan St has is Izzo.

K 8-1 vs Izzo.

KRIT · 03-30-15, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Of course, you could've filled in the blank there with Virginia, Oklahoma and Louisville as well.

Duke is better than MSU roster-wise, but so were those teams.

They haven't faced a team like Duke yet. You can only get by with the coaches angle so many games, at some point it comes down to matchups and talent.

Cook will slow down Trice, he is a premier perimeter defender. They'll have no answer for Okafor. Winslow will neutralize Valentine assuming he guards him.

Duke plays with the smarts of Virginia and has the offensive fire power of Oklahoma.

No coincidences · 03-30-15, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

They haven't faced a team like Duke yet. You can only get by with the coaches angle so many games, at some point it comes down to matchups and talent.

Cook will slow down Trice, he is a premier perimeter defender. They'll have no answer for Okafor. Winslow will neutralize Valentine assuming he guards him.

Duke plays with the smarts of Virginia and has the offensive fire power of Oklahoma.

I can't argue against any of this. I'm just done even trying to bet against Izzo/MSU. Not worth it. They are so much more physically and mentally prepared than most teams. Really amazing to watch year after year.

capone1899 · 03-30-15, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by Jayvegas420

You're multiplying moneylines together to come up with 40to1 odds?

Originally posted by lakerboy

Yup and if the first one loses you pay juice.

Jesus! Is it amateur hour here?

Pay the juice? Are you stupid? You bet 100 to win 1200. The way I said to do it would be as follows:

100 to win 76.92 on MSU over Oklahoma

176.92 to win 147.43 on MSU over Ville

324.35 to win 681.13 on MSU over Duke

1005.48 to win 3016.44 on MSU over Kent

MSU wins it all. You had 100 to win 3921.92 MSU. Where the F is the juice?

Of course 100 to win 1200 sounds so much better

Big Bear · 03-30-15, 07:38 PM

i would hedge laker you have too much riding on this

survive · 03-30-15, 10:41 PM

On paper Duke should win, obviously. But man, this MSU run is eerily similar to UConn last year

ZetaPsi808 · 04-01-15, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by capone1899

Jesus! Is it amateur hour here?

Pay the juice? Are you stupid? You bet 100 to win 1200. The way I said to do it would be as follows:

100 to win 76.92 on MSU over Oklahoma

176.92 to win 147.43 on MSU over Ville

324.35 to win 681.13 on MSU over Duke

1005.48 to win 3016.44 on MSU over Kent

MSU wins it all. You had 100 to win 3921.92 MSU. Where the F is the juice?

Of course 100 to win 1200 sounds so much better