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  • stevenash
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    • 01-17-11
    • 65682

    #36
    Originally posted by Soxsfan9
    And I sound like a "fukking moron" when you are picking SMU to get to the final 4!
    21 and 5
    Brutal schedule. Top 10 SoS out of conference.
    There's a lot to like about the 'Stangs.
    Don't sleep on them Soxy
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    • chaka
      SBR Sharp
      • 12-29-09
      • 437

      #37
      Gonzaga is vulnerable #1 being challenged by st marys and pacific. Wouldnt be surprised if they lose to a summit team first round
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      • stevenash
        Moderator
        • 01-17-11
        • 65682

        #38
        Originally posted by chaka
        Gonzaga is vulnerable #1 being challenged by st marys and pacific. Wouldnt be surprised if they lose to a summit team first round
        Were not impressive last night.
        They were lucky St. Mary's folded up like a cheap table the last 8 minutes last night.
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        • meader99
          SBR MVP
          • 10-30-10
          • 4223

          #39
          Originally posted by chaka
          Gonzaga is vulnerable #1 being challenged by st marys and pacific. Wouldnt be surprised if they lose to a summit team first round
          Wouldnt be surprised if they don't get a 1 seed.
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          • LT Profits
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 10-27-06
            • 90963

            #40
            Originally posted by meader99
            Wouldnt be surprised if they don't get a 1 seed.
            They will be a 1-seed as long as they win out. That is good for brackets though, remember SBR contest gives seeding difference bonus for upsets.
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            • TakingVegasMoney
              SBR MVP
              • 02-20-14
              • 1014

              #41
              Originally posted by LT Profits
              They will be a 1-seed as long as they win out. That is good for brackets though, remember SBR contest gives seeding difference bonus for upsets.
              They could very well be knocked out by an 8 seed in round 2. Especially if the committee blows it again and puts a team equivalent to Kentucky as an 8 seed like last year
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              • KRIT
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-11-14
                • 12878

                #42
                Originally posted by stevenash
                Were not impressive last night.
                They were lucky St. Mary's folded up like a cheap table the last 8 minutes last night.
                Bottom line is they pulled out the win. And not like St Mary's is a bunch of scrubs, they're a solid team. Plenty of top 10 teams have lost on the road. Better way to measure Zags was their non conference schedule which they challenged themselves and beat some good teams and took Zona to OT in Tuscon.
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                • LT Profits
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 10-27-06
                  • 90963

                  #43
                  Originally posted by stevenash
                  21 and 5
                  Brutal schedule. Top 10 SoS out of conference.
                  There's a lot to like about the 'Stangs.
                  Don't sleep on them Soxy
                  Problem with SMU is they have not BEATEN anyone. Yes they improved their non-conference schedule this year but they lost all of their toughest games.
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                  • meader99
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-30-10
                    • 4223

                    #44
                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                    They will be a 1-seed as long as they win out. That is good for brackets though, remember SBR contest gives seeding difference bonus for upsets.
                    Who is the committee going to leave out? Tough to find a team with 3 better road wins than Duke. That leaves wisky or Virginia getting left out, both of which are stronger than the Zags.
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                    • KRIT
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-11-14
                      • 12878

                      #45
                      Originally posted by meader99
                      Who is the committee going to leave out? Tough to find a team with 3 better road wins than Duke. That leaves wisky or Virginia getting left out, both of which are stronger than the Zags.
                      I think either Duke or UVA will get bounced. Hard for one conf. to send two #1 seeds.
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                      • LT Profits
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-27-06
                        • 90963

                        #46
                        Originally posted by meader99
                        Who is the committee going to leave out? Tough to find a team with 3 better road wins than Duke. That leaves wisky or Virginia getting left out, both of which are stronger than the Zags.
                        Lunardi has Wisconsin as a 2-seed right now (and in the same region as Kentucky even though I personally think they are the two best teams in the country ). Yes it will be a tough call choosing two from Duke, VA and Wiscy but I think that's what it will come down to as long as Zags finish 33-1 or whatever. Gonzaga had strong non-conference sked and only lost in OT at Zona.
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                        • Soxsfan9
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-30-08
                          • 3705

                          #47
                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                          Problem with SMU is they have not BEATEN anyone. Yes they improved their non-conference schedule this year but they lost all of their toughest games.
                          LT took the words out of my mouth. I hate people that say "those are quality losses". It means you did not win. Sure SMU played quality teams but they can't win a quality game. They will be lucky to get out of the first weekend imo
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                          • meader99
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-30-10
                            • 4223

                            #48
                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                            Lunardi has Wisconsin as a 2-seed right now (and in the same region as Kentucky even though I personally think they are the two best teams in the country ). Yes it will be a tough call choosing two from Duke, VA and Wiscy but I think that's what it will come down to as long as Zags finish 33-1 or whatever. Gonzaga had strong non-conference sked and only lost in OT at Zona.
                            Especially since they will play without their starting pg for 6 weeks of the year. No way wiscy should be off the 1 line. They certainly have all the tools to beat Kentucky should they meet. Also having one of the best coaches doesn't hurt.
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                            • LT Profits
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 10-27-06
                              • 90963

                              #49
                              Originally posted by stevenash
                              21 and 5
                              Brutal schedule. Top 10 SoS out of conference.
                              There's a lot to like about the 'Stangs.
                              Don't sleep on them Soxy
                              Originally posted by Soxsfan9

                              LT took the words out of my mouth. I hate people that say "those are quality losses". It means you did not win. Sure SMU played quality teams but they can't win a quality game. They will be lucky to get out of the first weekend imo
                              Going by Lunardi's bracket right now, I would have SMU losing their first game to LSU.
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                              • THam12
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-12-13
                                • 12640

                                #50
                                Originally posted by LT Profits
                                Going by Lunardi's bracket right now, I would have SMU losing their first game to LSU.
                                Yes
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                                • boomer62
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 09-10-11
                                  • 1500

                                  #51
                                  Can't pick final 4 not knowing the final brackets but this is probably the most wide open tournament. Kentucky is no doubt best team but they are young and have't played many different style teams.
                                  KTY
                                  WISC,VIRG
                                  then VILL, ARI, Kansas.
                                  Long shot Utah, Duke,
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                                  • LT Profits
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 10-27-06
                                    • 90963

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by meader99
                                    Especially since they will play without their starting pg for 6 weeks of the year. No way wiscy should be off the 1 line. They certainly have all the tools to beat Kentucky should they meet. Also having one of the best coaches doesn't hurt.
                                    Also if Duke wins ACC Tournament, it becomes easier to drop Va to a 2-seed considering Duke won in Charlottesville (and Virginia would have a second loss, quite possibly to Duke again).
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                                    • chipshipley
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 11-18-14
                                      • 637

                                      #53
                                      Gonzaga starts slow a lot St marys is not a bad team Zags started slow SMC started really hot. Zags come out at half time show some toughness and win at SMC's court on senior night when they are extra fired up. I don't think Zags are the best team but they are not to be slept on. I would take them over Vir and definitely Utah. Utes won't go far they aren't that good, some team will come in hot and light them up from three point land and they won't be able to counter.

                                      And LSU can definitely beat SMU if the good LSU shows up they could embarrass them
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                                      • DOM_Toretto
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 01-28-13
                                        • 9035

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Soxsfan9
                                        LT took the words out of my mouth. I hate people that say "those are quality losses". It means you did not win. Sure SMU played quality teams but they can't win a quality game. They will be lucky to get out of the first weekend imo
                                        You 'numbers' guys don't watch the game I guess. I can confidently say I watch more college bball than anyone I know, and likely more than anybody on SBR. I've seen SMU play and one thing I know is they are a much better team with Kennedy in the mix. In the first couple months Kennedy was ineligible and they lost some tough games.

                                        It's not like I'm guaranteeing them a final four run, we haven't even seen the damn brackets yet. I'm just saying, without knowing matchups, SMU is a scary team that has FF potential.
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                                        • stevenash
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65682

                                          #55
                                          ^
                                          I've seen all UConn games and that includes the loss to SMU.
                                          Being a UConn homer, I can safely say I have seen at least 25 AAC games this season so far, SMU is legit.
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                                          • KRIT
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-11-14
                                            • 12878

                                            #56
                                            SMU is good, but don't really see them being a darkhorse in the tournament. Outside of Moody they are pretty average imo. I am a big Nic Moore fan, that kid can flat out ball.

                                            Two darkhorses in the tournament will be Notre Dame and Oklahoma. Two of the better scoring teams in the nation, and both have great guard play. Any team can win in the tourney as long as you have both of those.
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                                            • krk1030
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-13-08
                                              • 17610

                                              #57
                                              Kentucky
                                              Duke
                                              UNC
                                              Baylor
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                                              • DOM_Toretto
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 01-28-13
                                                • 9035

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by KRIT
                                                SMU is good, but don't really see them being a darkhorse in the tournament. Outside of Moody they are pretty average imo. I am a big Nic Moore fan, that kid can flat out ball.

                                                Two darkhorses in the tournament will be Notre Dame and Oklahoma. Two of the better scoring teams in the nation, and both have great guard play. Any team can win in the tourney as long as you have both of those.
                                                Agree with you on ND & OU.... Two teams you do not want to come across in the tourney. Type of teams that could get hot and go on a deep run, or go cold and get upset.
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                                                • CTOWNsCAPPIN
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-11-11
                                                  • 3079

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                                  UK
                                                  Gonzaga
                                                  SMU
                                                  Wisconsin

                                                  'Sleepers' to consider: Indiana, Notre Dame, Villanova,
                                                  SMU???
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                                                  • CTOWNsCAPPIN
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-11-11
                                                    • 3079

                                                    #60
                                                    Wisconsin/Iowa St/Kentucky/Duke
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                                                    • CTOWNsCAPPIN
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 02-11-11
                                                      • 3079

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                      Going by Lunardi's bracket right now, I would have SMU losing their first game to LSU.
                                                      SMU will be bounced before the sweet 16
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                                                      • CTOWNsCAPPIN
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-11-11
                                                        • 3079

                                                        #62
                                                        No love for Iowa St.?
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                                                        • LT Profits
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-27-06
                                                          • 90963

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by CTOWNsCAPPIN
                                                          No love for Iowa St.?
                                                          Not from me, although that could change. Biggest knock was their play on the road, but now suddenly won back-to-back roadies at Okie State and Texas. I am on the fence with them right now.
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                                                          • CTOWNsCAPPIN
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 02-11-11
                                                            • 3079

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by LT Profits
                                                            Not from me, although that could change. Biggest knock was their play on the road, but now suddenly won back-to-back roadies at Okie State and Texas. I am on the fence with them right now.
                                                            Makes sense.
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