BTP XI: Working the deal now, ideas welcome

[The Prick]

2) make all juice -110 standard, penetrate the -115 -105 +105 etc.

Brilliant Kato, cause all the sharp bettors know ya never bet anything cept a -110 line. an aint no bookmakers ever move the juice offa -110. mebbe we should go real old-school an post the lines in a thread on tuesday morning

[a4u2fear]

I enjoyed it. Winning it next year

no suggestions

[rkelly110]

Yes, keep the non-pros out. They can't even use the points, and we pros paid good points/$ to be a part of promotions, why do people who paid 0 get to suck points away from those who paid? And it could be good for SBR - likely would encourage more non-pros to go pro when they see this as a benefit rather than something they get either way.

[rkelly110]

Keep the broke dick non pros out

[rkelly110]

1) no Non-Pros

2) make all juice -110 standard, penetrate the -115 -105 +105 etc.

3) with the makin all juice same, if someone ties the prick - TB is action pts (not prick wins)

4) give 1 3x bet, 1 2x bet and 3 1x bets each week

5) instead of paying 500th or last, pay the leader after 1/2 way mark the $500

[rkelly110]

Let's allow non pros

[a4u2fear]

Suggestion, do not take the pricks picks off the board

[Russian Rocket]

If their goal is for it to cost them less, then heck, why not just make it only open to non-pros? That's not the point at all. I'm talking about fairness, how those who contribute to SBR via depositing, donating etc. should be the ones eligible for these promotions, not people who have not made a contribution of any kind.

And the fact that people only turn pro based on this contest if they happen to be doing well in it late seems rather absurd, those who are pros all year contribute/donate no matter how well we are doing in the contest, others should not be permitted to selectively contribute/donate only if it suits their interest, i.e. due to them happening to be in contention after Week 11 or whenever it is.

As for the contest itself, I would say 6 picks with no best bet - in terms of doing well, you are always just out of luck if your best bet loses in a given week or you happen to run badly in the best bets while doing well overall. I'd rather all picks be equally weighted, where losing one pick will not damage you extremely severely (as losing your best bet currently does).

you obviously don't know enough about a business model of this forum and how they make their money
your 100 dollar donation is a drop in the ocean comparing to how much money they make from sportsbook accts that were opened through the referral links on this site
you can have a non-pro with zero posts who opened a few accts through SBR referral program and who made them a bank by losing his shit...so why not let them play in the tourney?

[ArunSh]

you obviously don't know enough about a business model of this forum and how they make their money
your 100 dollar donation is a drop in the ocean comparing to how much money they make from sportsbook accts that were opened through the referral links on this site
you can have a non-pro with zero posts who opened a few accts through SBR referral program and who made them a bank by losing his shit...so why not let them play in the tourney?

If a person opened accounts via the referral links and funded it then that is precisely one option they potentially have to go pro so by all means let them play then, just make the effort to turn pro then like the rest of us.

How may I ask is it fair that a non-pro who might have done nothing in regards to supporting the site gets the same benefit as those who have contributed via donating, funding a book, etc.? If our $100 donation is just "a drop in the ocean" as you say, then why is it all unreasonable to require EVERYONE to make this donation, or the equivalent of it, in exchange for getting to compete in this contest? How would you feel if you paid a $100 membership to be a part of some club, then the club just randomly let a bunch of other people in for free since they suddenly viewed that it was in their best interest?

[jjgold]

Prick where are you??

What is the decision with non pros??

I do not got all fukkin day

[Russian Rocket]

If a person opened accounts via the referral links and funded it then that is precisely one option they potentially have to go pro so by all means let them play then, just make the effort to turn pro then like the rest of us.

How may I ask is it fair that a non-pro who might have done nothing in regards to supporting the site gets the same benefit as those who have contributed via donating, funding a book, etc.? If our $100 donation is just "a drop in the ocean" as you say, then why is it all unreasonable to require EVERYONE to make this donation, or the equivalent of it, in exchange for getting to compete in this contest? How would you feel if you paid a $100 membership to be a part of some club, then the club just randomly let a bunch of other people in for free since they suddenly viewed that it was in their best interest?

also don't discount the fact, that this site is making money from the actual traffic...I just turned PRO a few months ago and you've been on this site for 8 years...who do you think made more money for these guys as far as generating the traffic/clicks goes...you or I?

non-pros generate more money than PROs here that's a fact....obviously I can't see their books here, but this is at least what it looks like to me


anywho...I don't wanna get too deep into this discussion in this thread...PM me if you wanna discuss this any further

[pavyracer]

Hey here is an idea. Lets all not renew our Pro membership so that SBR would make much more money. In fact lets raise the Pro fee to $1,000 since more non-pros means more profits for SBR.

[Russian Rocket]

Hey here is an idea. Lets all not renew our Pro membership so that SBR would make much more money. In fact lets raise the Pro fee to $1,000 since more non-pros means more profits for SBR.

pavy I knew you were clueless on a lot of things, but please don't make so obvious

[ArunSh]

also don't discount the fact, that this site is making money from the actual traffic...I just turned PRO a few months ago and you've been on this site for 8 years...who do you think made more money for these guys as far as generating the traffic/clicks goes...you or I?

non-pros generate more money than PROs here that's a fact....obviously I can't see their books here, but this is at least what it looks like to me


anywho...I don't wanna get too deep into this discussion in this thread...PM me if you wanna discuss this any further

Yes no need to make this crazy, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree which is perfectly fine.

I would just add though that I personally have renewed my pro membership several years in a row by paying 3000 points. Obviously all the points that SBR gets back from me and all others who renew in that fashion contribute a decent amount to various contests, including Bet the Prick. So when those points are re-awarded to posters via contests like that, yes, frankly I do feel that it's unfair that (at least for much of the contest) non-pros have the same capacity to win those points back as pros despite the fact that non-pros may well have not contributed anything towards SBR while the pros, in some fashion, certainly have.

[hankcream]

Keep the broke dick non pros out

What a f*&king retard. Being a Pro has nothing to do with gambling anymore, just because you donated $200 to an SBR charity doesn't mean jack shit. I probably lost more in an SBR sponsored book last month than you ever deposited.

[zacharyj53]

ml might work, maybe add ONE moneyline pick for a total of 6 picks per week?

I think that would be a great addition.

[The Prick]

Hey here is an idea. Lets all not renew our Pro membership so that SBR would make much more money. In fact lets raise the Pro fee to $1,000 since more non-pros means more profits for SBR.

cousin balky!

you still tryin to tell everybody you bangin this chick?







the pro decision is outta my paygrade but if they really wanna grow this thing BIG it makes sense to scrap the requirement, make it easier to join an to play, an come up with some other reliable fraud prevention

[The Prick]

Do your pick videos topless

downer pretty sure outside of weber aint none of us wanna see that

[jjgold]

Prick rumors swirling that you did not go to the bash because there was a chance I would go so you did not want to have confrontation with me because you know how tough I am.

[shaunovery]

Prick rumors swirling that you did not go to the bash because there was a chance I would go so you did not want to have confrontation with me because you know how tough I am.

Who cares how tough the fellow had brain operations

[The Prick]

Prick rumors swirling that you did not go to the bash because there was a chance I would go so you did not want to have confrontation with me because you know how tough I am.

corbin you aint got a lick of sense son

down here we chew up little yankee jew boys like you an shit out krispy kreme donuts

back on point we still lookin for ways to make BTP bigger/better/prickier

[jjgold]

It actually seems pretty good now

I rarely ever see complaints

Prick I will bury you.

[TheMoneyShot]

I don't think anything has to change. Pretty straightforward and a great SBR contest!

Enjoy your offseason Prickster!

[The Prick]

It actually seems pretty good now

I rarely ever see complaints

Prick I will bury you.

setttle down little buddy

been doin this so long it might be time for a little tune up

fuggin garden gnome

[jjgold]

Prick lets go head to head every week $500

Lets get rid of rift raft

[The Prick]

so far we got some ideas what aint all that retarded:

dont let no non-pros play

dont never kick out the non-pros

have 2 seperate contests one for pros and on for nons

add a moneyline pick each week

make one 3x one 2x and three 1x picks per week

let pavy eat a fat kawk

and a week at the beginnin an extend a week at the end

reckon that about covers it, any other einstiens wanna chime in?

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

That status.

I am laughing so fukking hard.

[Russian Rocket]

so far we got some ideas what aint all that retarded:


let pavy eat a fat kawk

[iifold]

- Must be Pro BEFORE it starts.
- Five-Man Teams (one pick from each teammate each week)
- Team Captain's draft teams with a snake style draft.
- Team Captain's plays are the "best bet" 2 unit play each week.

This will get rid of the ghost accounts and free for all feel it has had the last few years. It will also triple the traffic in Players Talk and make the forum fun again.

You're welcome SBR. Contact me anytime for the 37 other ideas I have to spruce things up around here...

Good Luck Prick...

Lay off the sauce Pal!!!

[The Prick]

- Must be Pro BEFORE it starts.
- Five-Man Teams (one pick from each teammate each week)
- Team Captain's draft teams with a snake style draft.
- Team Captain's plays are the "best bet" 2 unit play each week.

This will get rid of the ghost accounts and free for all feel it has had the last few years. It will also triple the traffic in Players Talk and make the forum fun again.

You're welcome SBR. Contact me anytime for the 37 other ideas I have to spruce things up around here...

Good Luck Prick...

Lay off the sauce Pal!!!

eggnog a team cappin contest aint a bad idea

we aint lookin to reinvent the wheel on BTP tho slappy, just knock the dust off

[Wrigley]

Only SBR pros allowed in the contest

[shaunovery]

Looks like we're heading to 2 contests one for pros , one for non pros

Maybe should make it only eligible to posters tgat gave made a recent deposit to betcris

[newguy]

I do think you could offer "free pro" membership for the non-pro who had the best season.

Allow players to bet each week on record vs. Prick (i.e. in week 6, I could bet whether I will have better record that week or prick)

Lock picks at like 11a on Sat and 12p on Sunday (eastern). There are some great cappers on here (and a lot of really bad ones too). Imagine the traffic and views you could get if you could see who each player picked before the start of any games. Think of the Hilton SuperContest format. People don't want to post their plays in PT or sub forums because they don't want people picking same in contest but think you could get some valuable gambling info by knowing in advance who picked which games. That bowl contest thing was incredibly profitable for me - there were a few games you just looked at who was on what side and it was pretty obvious which way I should bet. SBR is all about giving more value to users - that would be very valuable IMO.

[spider]

the points won by non-pros to be held in escrow. if they decide to turn pro they get to keep them, otherwise the points are re-distributed to the winners at the end.
this way a lot more people will turn pro in order to collect their points.

[MoMoneyMoVaughn]

A simple question posed by Prick produced some disturbing examinations of class struggle on Internet Gambling Forums