Carroll trying to get Wilson SB MVP cost himself a SB win

[dlunc3]

Thats all it comes down to. He likes Wilson more then Lynch.

[packerd_00]

I don't get why they don't leave it down to the Qb to make the ultimate decision in these sorts of situations,those guys are seasoned enough to know what they are doing.

[shaunovery]

Maybe 2nd guessed himself remember the national champ game in 2006 USC with 2mins left had 4th and 2 and he ran the ball

[frostno98]

I agree with you that Carroll wanted give Wilson at least 1 crack at getting MVP, because Wilson was going to be the face the Seahawks after he gets a big contract. After having some perspective, I believe passing on that play was correct call, but he should of did a roll out option. If his guy ain't open, then throw it away or try to run in. The should of called a higher passing play

Remember the Seahawks only got 1 time out left. If beast mode doesn't get in on 2nd down or 3rd down, then they might not be able to do a 4th down play.

[Wrigley]

Thats the conspiracy going around now...

http://www.thenation.com/blog/196697/conspiracy-theory-surrounding-seahawks-last-play#

The theory goes that there were major financial, public relations and football reasons for Russell Wilson and not Lynch to be the one who ends the game in glory. If he throws that touchdown for the victory, Wilson is almost certainly the Super Bowl MVP. He gets the commercial. He gets to stand with the commissioner. And oh, by the way, he also gets his new contract, one that will fasten his prime, at only 26 years old, to the Seattle franchise. Marshawn Lynch is also due a new contract. Marshawn Lynch, had he punched that ball over the goal line, would get to be the one handed the MVP trophy. Marshawn Lynch maybe gets on the mic to say Lord knows what.

[the_orangekat]

Great game, remember Brady made a similar error in the 1st qtr.

[d2bets]

Maybe 2nd guessed himself remember the national champ game in 2006 USC with 2mins left had 4th and 2 and he ran the ball

But this is not 4th and 2. Not even close. 2nd down is whole 'nother animal. On 2nd down from the 1, ball security has to be paramount. On 4th down, it's not.

[d2bets]

Great game, remember Brady made a similar error in the 1st qtr.

Other than the fact is was also an INT in the endzone, it was not similar in any way.

[d2bets]

Thats the conspiracy going around now...

http://www.thenation.com/blog/196697/conspiracy-theory-surrounding-seahawks-last-play#

The theory goes that there were major financial, public relations and football reasons for Russell Wilson and not Lynch to be the one who ends the game in glory. If he throws that touchdown for the victory, Wilson is almost certainly the Super Bowl MVP. He gets the commercial. He gets to stand with the commissioner. And oh, by the way, he also gets his new contract, one that will fasten his prime, at only 26 years old, to the Seattle franchise. Marshawn Lynch is also due a new contract. Marshawn Lynch, had he punched that ball over the goal line, would get to be the one handed the MVP trophy. Marshawn Lynch maybe gets on the mic to say Lord knows what.

Fine then let Wilson fake a handoff and bootleg it out. I bet he coulda walked one in. If it's covered, then you just throw it out of the endzone. No risk.

[jjgold]

Guys they try to be cute and it backfired there's nothing else to say

[Spedizzo]

there is no excuse not to run the ball 3 times to get 1 yard

no excuse

[frostno98]

there is no excuse not to run the ball 3 times to get 1 yard

no excuse

They can't run it 3 times because the only had 1 time out. They could of ran it two straight, but if they didn't get it in on 3rd down they might not had enough time to run in the right play on 4th down.

[Spedizzo]

they could run it, call a time out, run it, no huddle, run it again

they had plenty of time to do that

[boomer62]

The idiot thread! Game on the line and they are thinking Wilson for MVP?? FUKING Clowns

[lakerboy]

They lost. Let's move on.

[Spedizzo]

regardless

a quick slant in the middle of the field when you need 1 yard, have a time out, and its only 2nd down is INEXCUSABLE

too many things can go wrong, a ball can be tipped, intercepted, whatever

you don't do that in a superbowl

I wouldn't even do that in a game of madden because I know odds are I will get picked off

its the 1 yard line... everyone is all scrunched up. you dont pass like that.

coaching staffs make millions of dollars and should know better

on the reverse, I don't know why the Patriots never used a time out at the end

[Kaabee]

They can't run it 3 times because the only had 1 time out. They could of ran it two straight, but if they didn't get it in on 3rd down they might not had enough time to run in the right play on 4th down.

Run it. If you don't get it call time out. Call two plays during the timeout. Easily enough time.

[trytrytry]

I think the non time out but NE somehow got him confused. with 52 sec left they for sure run because even if stopped they kill some clock or another time out. the non new England timeout confused Seattle BADLY

also keep in mind if Seattle scored on the drive somehow, or on that play or on 3rd down running, the WORST play of all time in NFL history would not be that pass, but the non time out! Easily the worst thing a coach has ever done in a superbowl is not call a time out there. other than the pass play!

funny circle actually.......

[tony_come]

We won. Let's move on

[frostno98]

Even with that Interception the Seahawks still had a great chance at getting a safety, at least two cracks.

[THam12]

Run option left, wilson wins MVP, hawks win SB.

[SharpAngles]

This is a stupid premise. Why is Lynch on the field running a swing route towards the endzone on the last play if they didn't want him scoring? Does anyone think Carroll told Wilson not to throw to beastmode if he beat his coverage?

[rm18]

He should of Willie Beaman'ed that shit.

[Petey Wheatstraw]

Who knows what lies in the farts of man?

[19th Hole]

Thats all it comes down to. He likes Wilson more then Lynch.

Surely you can't believe that this was the reasoning behind the play calling.

[jjgold]

regardless

a quick slant in the middle of the field when you need 1 yard, have a time out, and its only 2nd down is INEXCUSABLE

too many things can go wrong, a ball can be tipped, intercepted, whatever

you don't do that in a superbowl

I wouldn't even do that in a game of madden because I know odds are I will get picked off

its the 1 yard line... everyone is all scrunched up. you dont pass like that.

coaching staffs make millions of dollars and should know better

on the reverse, I don't know why the Patriots never used a time out at the end

NFL QB's said last night that was not a high risk pass

[Ghenghis Kahn]

name one coach that would call that play besides pete carroll?

who are we kidding, if lynch was more obedient and less of a hang nail, he would've gotten the ball every fukking down and the super bowl mvp. that pass completes, russell wilson gets the glory and the mvp.

but pete, the organization, and the nfl despises his antics so that's that...

[Ghenghis Kahn]

NFL QB's said last night that was not a high risk pass

yes it is when you're a midget and have to throw over people foot taller than you.

[chico2663]

they had 57 seconds and time out . wtf are you talking about?

[jjgold]

I guess Lynch is the real winner here

It is possible Carol held a grudge against Lynch but that would've been pure silly

Just plenty of people that said what Carol did was not wrong knowing he had two more players to run

[brooks85]

end of the day it is Wilson's decision, he shouldn't have thrown that ball inside. Even if it was caught, still dumb as all hell to take that risk. Definitely understand passing in that situation but to make that throw in that situation was a huge error on wilson's part.

[Thor4140]

Being reported that Bellichick knew the play was coming even tho Seattle hadn't run it since 2006. Incredible guy this Bellichik is. Sees things even physics don't pick up. Doesn't call a time out cause he knows the play. Brilliant.

[jjgold]

Being reported that Bellichick knew the play was coming even tho Seattle hadn't run it since 2006. Incredible guy this Bellichik is. Sees things even physics don't pick up. Doesn't call a time out cause he knows the play. Brilliant.

[boomer62]

Being reported that Bellichick knew the play was coming even tho Seattle hadn't run it since 2006. Incredible guy this Bellichik is. Sees things even physics don't pick up. Doesn't call a time out cause he knows the play. Brilliant.

LMAO....you never know, maybe he was taping practices again. The idiot thread

[Regul8er]

One part of me thinks the call was out of line.......but another part of me says not so much. If this play worked, there is no discussion about this. What is Lynch got stuffed a few times on the goal line......then we'd be b!tching about how he didn't throw it. I can't even tell you how many times I've seen teams get stuffed time after time in a loaded box on the goal line. Not sure if it's happened much to Lynch, but I've seen it from Lacy who is a physical runner like Lynch.

I had no money on the game so I'm looking at this practically.