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  • No coincidences
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    #316
    Originally posted by t-wizzle
    Why did you choose those six?

    If you're going to use stats, you can't cherry pick.
    You act like I grabbed stats from the middle of December through the start of January or something. I just looked up the most recent games. How is that "cherry picking"?

    OK, I'll only go back two games. They were 9 for 37 in their last two. Better?
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    • t-wizzle
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      #317
      Originally posted by No coincidences
      You act like I grabbed stats from the middle of December through the start of January or something. I just looked up the most recent games. How is that "cherry picking"?

      OK, I'll only go back two games. They were 9 for 37 in their last two. Better?
      Nothing ever changes with you. Still manipulating stats to justify whatever point you're trying to make.

      Whatever coiner. If those are the stats you used to bet Iowa State then that's on you. Maybe reevaluate how you look at games.
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      • No coincidences
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        #318
        Originally posted by t-wizzle
        Nothing ever changes with you. Still manipulating stats to justify whatever point you're trying to make.

        Whatever coiner. If those are the stats you used to bet Iowa State then that's on you. Maybe reevaluate how you look at games.
        How am I "manipulating stats"? The only reasoning you used for backing Oklahoma was that they "shoot the lights out." It's been proven in spades that they are -- at best -- an average shooting team. Then you responded with some gibberish about stats not mattering when you were proven wrong, which is ridiculous. It's not my fault that you do this to yourself.
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        • t-wizzle
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          #319
          They scored 94 points and my bet covered with ease. Man I hate when I do this to myself.
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          • No coincidences
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            #320
            Originally posted by t-wizzle
            They scored 94 points and my bet covered with ease. Man I hate when I do this to myself.
            You obviously had the right side. I admitted as much last night. Whatever your rationale, the bet won. I just thought the "college stats are irrelevant" comment was laughable.
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            • BigDofBA
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              • 09-30-09
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              #321
              Originally posted by mikemca
              Always best to use one game instead of the 23 combined games they played prior. Makes sense and you'll even be right 100% of the time when you wait until the game is over.

              And BTW I wasn't criticizing anything, I was just pointing out that OU wins the majority of their games because they play lights out defense and run an efficient offense not because they "shoot the lights out". Unless the only game you are basing it off is last night.
              The irony here that I graduated from OU and watch almost all of their games.

              I'm willing to bet that you don't and just look at stats.

              Stats don't tell you everything.

              I never said OU "shoots lights out" either. I said OU shoots well at home before last nights game. Did they shoot well or not?

              I don't care what the "stats" say, OU is well above average offensively.

              I'm sure there are teams in shit conferences that have better "stats". So what.

              If you took ISU BC of stats how did it work out?

              OU is 9-5 aginst the top 50 teams in the nation. I believe they have played more top 50 teams than anyone anyone in the country. This also skews stats.

              Hell, stats would have had Bama playing FSU in the college football title game. Stats don't tell the whole story man.
              Last edited by BigDofBA; 02-10-15, 07:01 PM.
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              • t-wizzle
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                #322
                Originally posted by t-wizzle
                Tuesday 2/10:

                Temple ML -130 (3x)

                The Owls were blown out a few weeks ago at Cincinnati. They get revenge tonight. Temple has been under the radar ever since the transfers became eligible.


                Clemson +3.5 -102 (3x); ML +155 (1x)

                Hangover effect for Notre Dame. The Irish just suffered a reality check when they got pasted by Duke on Saturday. They'll drop another one tonight feeling sorry for themselves.
                LSU +9.5 -109 (3x); ML +435 (0.5x)
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                • BigDofBA
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                  #323
                  All three of those college plays are winners
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                  • t-wizzle
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                    #324
                    Originally posted by BigDofBA
                    The irony here that I graduated from OU and watch almost all of their games.

                    I'm willing to bet that you don't and just look at stats.

                    Stats don't tell you everything.

                    I never said OU "shoots lights out" either. I said OU shoots well at home before last nights game. Did they shoot well or not?

                    I don't care what the "stats" say, OU is well above average offensively.

                    I'm sure there are teams in shit conferences that have better "stats". So what.

                    If you took ISU BC of stats how did it work out?

                    OU is 9-5 aginst the top 50 teams in the nation. I believe they have played more top 50 teams than anyone anyone in the country. This also skews stats.

                    Hell, stats would have had Bama playing FSU in the college football title game. Stats don't tell the whole story man.
                    I dismissed college stats in general because you're comparing over 300 (or is it 400?) teams, many of which play different levels of competition and different styles of play.

                    I have no idea what the numbers are but I would venture to say Oklahoma probably sits at the top of most offensive categories in the Big 12 this year. That's probably the best apples to apples scenario you're going to find when comparing college stats. The fact that they rank 100-whatevereth in the country in 3 pt % means nothing to me.
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                    • BigDofBA
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                      #325
                      Originally posted by t-wizzle
                      I dismissed college stats in general because you're comparing over 300 (or is it 400?) teams, many of which play different levels of competition and different styles of play.

                      I have no idea what the numbers are but I would venture to say Oklahoma probably sits at the top of most offensive categories in the Big 12 this year. That's probably the best apples to apples scenario you're going to find when comparing college stats. The fact that they rank 100-whatevereth in the country in 3 pt % means nothing to me.
                      That's what I'm getting at.

                      Reading box scores and stats doesn't mean you know anything about a team unless you've actually watched them.

                      Here are some teams that are in the top 20 in the country in scoring offense based on "stats"

                      VMI
                      La-Lafayette
                      Hofstra
                      Central Michigan
                      Iona
                      Eastern Washington
                      Northwestern State
                      Murray State
                      Idaho

                      None of these teams are any good. Iona and Murray State are OK but not top 25 worthy.

                      OU played Northwestern State and beat them by over 20 and held them well below their season average offensively despite "stats". Funny how that works.
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                      • BigDofBA
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                        #326
                        Originally posted by BigDofBA
                        All three of those college plays are winners
                        2-0 with Temple pending.
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                        • t-wizzle
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                          #327
                          Nebraska +8 -105 (2x); ML +325 (0.5x)

                          Huskers might give Wisky a scare tonight. I remember they won this game last year.
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                          • BigDofBA
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                            #328
                            Originally posted by t-wizzle
                            Nebraska +8 -105 (2x); ML +325 (0.5x)

                            Huskers might give Wisky a scare tonight. I remember they won this game last year.
                            I liked this one but passed. Played Miss State instead.
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                            • t-wizzle
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                              #329
                              Originally posted by BigDofBA
                              I liked this one but passed. Played Miss State instead.
                              Nebraska off to a shaky start but I think they'll make a run. Not expecting a blowout here.
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                              • BigDofBA
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                                #330
                                Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                Nebraska off to a shaky start but I think they'll make a run. Not expecting a blowout here.
                                They'll come back. If I can get 10 or better live or at half I'll bite.
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                                • t-wizzle
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                                  #331
                                  Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                  They'll come back. If I can get 10 or better live or at half I'll bite.
                                  This might be a game where Wisconsin leads comfortably for most of the game but Nebraska makes a couple runs to keep things interesting. Line was probably sharp and Wisky wins by 9 or so.
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                                  • BigDofBA
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                                    #332
                                    Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                    This might be a game where Wisconsin leads comfortably for most of the game but Nebraska makes a couple runs to keep things interesting. Line was probably sharp and Wisky wins by 9 or so.
                                    Yeah. I feel like a few points could be huge.
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                                    • BigDofBA
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                                      #333
                                      Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                      Yeah. I feel like a few points could be huge.
                                      Nebraska 2h hits.

                                      Two points were indeed the difference.
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                                      • survive
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                                        #334
                                        Pointless foul down 8...miles was yelling no foul. Smh
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                                        • BigDofBA
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                                          #335
                                          Originally posted by survive
                                          Pointless foul down 8...miles was yelling no foul. Smh
                                          This is why the college game drives me nuts.

                                          Teams start foulong early and jacking threes.

                                          College hoops needs to get wih the times and shorten the shot clock and allow teams to advance the ball after time outs. This isn't the 1950s. I'm sick of 55-45 games.

                                          I bitch about this daily.
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                                          • t-wizzle
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                                            #336
                                            They have to foul earlier because of the 35 second shot clock. It makes the end of games unbearable from a gambling standpoint. I lost on UVA sat night because of stupid bullshit at the end.
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                                            • BigDofBA
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                                              #337
                                              Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                              They have to foul earlier because of the 35 second shot clock. It makes the end of games unbearable from a gambling standpoint. I lost on UVA sat night because of stupid bullshit at the end.
                                              Yeah and they start doing it with like 2 minutes left in 5-6 point games and it becomes 12-14 point losses all the time.
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                                              • leetreaper
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                                                #338
                                                Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                                Yeah and they start doing it with like 2 minutes left in 5-6 point games and it becomes 12-14 point losses all the time.
                                                Yep, completely retarded, don't they watch NBA games and maybe try to learn???
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                                                • t-wizzle
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                                                  • 12-18-09
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                                                  #339
                                                  Originally posted by leetreaper
                                                  Yep, completely retarded, don't they watch NBA games and maybe try to learn???

                                                  Learn what dumbfukk? I just explained that the shot clock difference is the reason they need to foul more/earlier.
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                                                  • t-wizzle
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                                                    #340
                                                    61-57 +14.85 Units
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                                                    • t-wizzle
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                                                      #341
                                                      Thursday 2/12:

                                                      Illinois -7.5 -106 (2x)
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                                                      • t-wizzle
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                                                        #342
                                                        Very fortunate to win this one. But more times than not, I've been on the other end of this deal.


                                                        YTD: 62-57 +16.85 Units
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                                                        • LakeShow
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                                                          #343
                                                          Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                                          Very fortunate to win this one. But more times than not, I've been on the other end of this deal.


                                                          YTD: 62-57 +16.85 Units

                                                          it always seems that we are on the side of losing when a late comeback occurs. Glad we were on the right side this time. I also took live bet at 2 minutes left at +520, great outcome!
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                                                          • ZetaPsi808
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                                                            #344
                                                            I would give props but Not sure if record is accurate. You didn't update record for a long time until u started winning plays.
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                                                            • t-wizzle
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                                                              #345
                                                              Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                                                              I would give props but Not sure if record is accurate. You didn't update record for a long time until u started winning plays.
                                                              Lol go ahead and add it up if you don't believe me. And I updated when I was losing back over the weekend so no idea what you're talking about.
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                                                              • t-wizzle
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                                                                #346
                                                                Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                                                Very fortunate to win this one. But more times than not, I've been on the other end of this deal.


                                                                YTD: 62-57 +16.85 Units

                                                                Friday 2/13:

                                                                Washington State +5 -109 (2.5x); ML +190 (0.5x)

                                                                Arizona State just knocked off in-state rival Arizona. Now they are in a letdown spot in what should be a pretty pumped up stadium for a Friday night game. Washington State isn't great and doesn't play much D but they have shown some flashes this year beating some decent teams.
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                                                                • LakeShow
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                                                                  #347
                                                                  Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                                                  Friday 2/13:

                                                                  Washington State +5 -109 (2.5x); ML +190 (0.5x)

                                                                  Arizona State just knocked off in-state rival Arizona. Now they are in a letdown spot in what should be a pretty pumped up stadium for a Friday night game. Washington State isn't great and doesn't play much D but they have shown some flashes this year beating some decent teams.

                                                                  good luck, i have them at as well +5 and with them in a ML parlay with Detroit.
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                                                                  • BigDofBA
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                                                                    #348
                                                                    WSU is a good play. Asu sucks on the road.
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                                                                    • t-wizzle
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                                                                      • 12-18-09
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                                                                      #349
                                                                      Washington +11.5 -109 (3x); ML +635 (0.5x)
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                                                                      • LakeShow
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                                                                        #350
                                                                        nice we are on the same side fading the AZ schools tonight! i have a bit more on the WA st game tho. Good luck…also took DET..thoughts?
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